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2004-2005 Scratch BC graphic to be changed

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ifsa_alum
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In an unprecidented move, Rossi is changing next season's Scratch BC graphic due to public outcry over the image of the woman getting her throat slit by Freddy Krueger.

Those of you who already have a pair, consider them collector's items...

Original article: Read on Telemark Tips.

Rossignol response below:

ROSSIGNOL REAFFIRMS ITS COMMITMENT TO WOMEN


(Williston, VT) In a decisive move, Rossignol management leaves no question about its commitment to women and its total support in the campaign against violence.

According to François Goulet, President of Rossignol Canada and Exec. V.P. of Rossignol's USA headquarters, 'It was brought to our attention this morning that the graphic on our Scratch BC had an unintended impact. It was originally conceived, by European designers, to be a satire of the cinematic horror flicks of the 80's and 90's. This being said, after reading an article this morning regarding the depiction, we have immediately taken steps to replace the cosmetic on this ski.'

Rossignol's Scratch BC is considered the standard in the ski industry for excellence in backcountry by the youth market. Jeanne-Marie Gand, a Vice President of Rossignol and the first woman named as a Corporate Officer in the hardgoods end of the ski industry, spoke to the subject 'To be honest, I had always understood the concept as being an abstract graphic, however, upon hearing it described otherwise in the article, our Company wants there to be no potential for such an interpretation, and has taken the steps to leave no room for doubt. Rossignol has been leading the charge in the respect and development of our sport for women.'
Mr. Goulet, in his statement, thanked the writer for having brought this to the Company's attention and enabling him to act swiftly and decisively.
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Jeanne-Marie Gand
Vice President
Communications & Advertising
ROSSIGNOL
alpine - snowboard - nordic - outerwear
www.rossignol.com
Apr 7 2004 7:58PM
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strode
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wow.....am i the only one who never even realized that's what the graphic was? i just thought it was a claw. but that's crazy that they'd change the whole graphic scheme.....any word on what it will be now? i guess someone high up at rossi had a pissed off wife



-Strode



Abba Zabba, you my only friend
Apr 7 2004 8:05PM
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ifsa_alum
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Maybe they'll bring the rooster back... and cut its throat as an hommage to the culling of chickens that's about to occur IN B.C. due to avian flu.
Apr 7 2004 8:12PM
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4skizzle
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I disagree. I definitely think there is room in skiing for violence depicted against women.










Eggs and bacon please, eggs over skeezy
Apr 7 2004 8:17PM
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marmot
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screw the telemarkers that graphic wa sweet
Apr 7 2004 8:17PM
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strode
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^and now it's 100 times sweeter because they don't make it any more.



-Strode



Abba Zabba, you my only friend
Apr 7 2004 8:27PM
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freezeskier540
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haha that graphic was sweet
Apr 7 2004 8:34PM
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Matty.
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woah, they sell that ski at my local shop, maybe i should buy a pair so i have a collectors item!

-Matty
High North Session 4, 2004
Apr 7 2004 8:42PM
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Jib_This
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So silhouettes of naked women are cool, but a graphic inspired by a horror movie isn't?




TMC WUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
WE KILL YOU
SKIER: How would you describe your style?
PJ Cliche: Total skate influence. Even doh dis is on concrete, an you are face sideways, an it has sweet fuck all to do with ski, skate 'as play a huge role wit my steeze.
Apr 7 2004 9:46PM
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Jib_This
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Furthermore, it could be said that the old scratch graphic(naked woman) encouraged unrealistic expectations of how women should look, causing eating disorders and self esteem issues. Isn't that violence against women also?

Come to think of it, the graphics on my black/orange Scratch BCs offend me. I think I'm going to complain to Rossignol and have them buy me a pair of Armada ARV 175.

See, I can take things WAY too far too.




TMC WUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
WE KILL YOU
SKIER: How would you describe your style?
PJ Cliche: Total skate influence. Even doh dis is on concrete, an you are face sideways, an it has sweet fuck all to do with ski, skate 'as play a huge role wit my steeze.
Apr 7 2004 10:00PM
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ATLANTASKI
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GOD DAMMIT I HATE POLTICAL CORRECTNESS>....i dunno how you could beat the graphic of that ski
handicaped skiing
is so hot right
now.
finger old truckers for beer then sell the beer- lateralis

I have seen a jogger with one, i was high when i saw him and for the first couple of seconds i thought he was really a fucking alien(on the oakley medusa hats)


-VETERAN OF COMBAT IN THE GREAT SPAMMING OF 2004-

Apr 7 2004 10:24PM
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DirtyMick
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anyone read the article on telemarktips.com?
i wanna know how this guy thinks oj simpson and the ski industry are related. i also wanna know why everyone is so goddamn uptight and so damn sensitive about something that is, in contrast to what is on tv, nothing at all.

whatever happend to free speach and artistic expression? and i doubt that mr. weber's 3 year old daugher would ever realize what that graphic is if she saw it.

i am sick of everyone being politicly correct and pissing and moaning about stupid shit. thats my rant, and i'm done
Apr 7 2004 10:39PM
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4skizzle
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^good point. i don't think rossis target market is soccer moms or middle school kids. They want the most bad ass nightmare on elm streed mutha they can find buying their skis. Now if the new logo for fisher price had that on it i could see it being a problem.










Eggs and bacon please, eggs over skeezy
Apr 7 2004 10:43PM
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Reaps
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yeah i'm surprised about that. you can't even see the womens tits in the ski graphic.... so it could be a man. if it was no one would say a thing! I mean it's just a scary monster with his grip on someones neck. so are soo many worse things then take...

'fujatives', 'public enemy' ppl sould say oh they glorify crime. and the seth pistol has a gun on it. No one says anything about those. it's just those dumb people with too much time on their hands and nothing to do that will make a big fuss about this stuff!

If a little kid did ride these ski's i think his main focus would to rip and not to kill women!
Apr 8 2004 11:25AM
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DirtyMick
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^^ totally good points. if it were a man on the graphic, nobody would say shit. its a total double standard. and i doubt that rossi even thought about the graphic being controversial because otherwise they never would have released it. I think its stupid that they have to change it now because of a few jerks.
AK forever!
Apr 8 2004 11:30AM
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shawnm1260
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yea i have a pair i feel speshul. maybe i should not mount them and just save them
Apr 8 2004 11:50AM
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Triple_Strum
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^^nah, you should just sell them to me :)

'can you read what that says?'
'donna simma?'
'yes, that's right. now how would that appear in a phone book?'
'simma, donna?'
'that's right now Simma down na!
Apr 8 2004 12:41PM
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ATLANTASKI
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Political corectness is abunch of fucking bullshit....if ppl werent so PC the world would be so much pimper
handicaped skiing
is so hot right
now.
finger old truckers for beer then sell the beer- lateralis

I have seen a jogger with one, i was high when i saw him and for the first couple of seconds i thought he was really a fucking alien(on the oakley medusa hats)


-VETERAN OF COMBAT IN THE GREAT SPAMMING OF 2004-

Apr 8 2004 1:33PM
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GeneralButtNaked
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can sombody hook me up with a picture i cant remember it off-hand





Hardcore drug abuse.....so hot right now. -west
Apr 8 2004 1:43PM
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ozee
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I am going to write a letter to this mitch weber guy, obviously a moron, talking about violence..and then writes the word 'fucked up' in his article. It may be just me, but something is wrong here. This guy needs his head fixed.
Apr 8 2004 2:09PM
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DirtyMick
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^ i second that
AK forever!
Apr 8 2004 7:40PM
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west
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I don't understand how a nude chick in 2002 was ok, but a Freddy Kruger in 2004 isn't...




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Apr 8 2004 7:46PM
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ReggaeConcept1
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Apr 8 2004 7:54PM
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Triple_Strum
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here is the thing guys. First off, the graphic was sick. But, regardless if only one person sees the offensive graphic in their mind, that is enough. Rossignol cant afford to not change it. They could lose business, regular buyers, and gain a bad rep. This is exactly what they don't want. I guarantee they were in the board room saying, 'what is that guy's problem? we really don't want to change the graphic, but now we are forced to'. Rossignol, good luck, it was a sick graphic

'can you read what that says?'
'donna simma?'
'yes, that's right. now how would that appear in a phone book?'
'simma, donna?'
'that's right now Simma down na!
Apr 8 2004 8:19PM
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Pklink04
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I saw those in a store at Keystone for 727, not the new ones but the original graph with the lady and killin



If The women don't find you handsome... atleast they will find you handy

(Red Green)
Apr 8 2004 9:00PM
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rockymountainmilitia
Posts: 2706 - Karma: 12
it comes acrossmore as killing shit int he back country. It sucks if somebody write somehting like the dude did on telemarktips.com they should have to post there phone number, where they live and the name and the name of there family memebers so they can get the abuse the deserve. fuckers
WHERE ARE YOU HOIET
Apr 8 2004 10:16PM
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ozee
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Here's what I dont understand: By now, the skis should be in production or even finished already for next season. They're made quite a while before they're sold. Is Rossignol actually gonna do a recall for so many pairs of skis, because one opinionated extremist believes there's some relevance between a horror graffic on skis and the O.J. Simpson case. Oh...and his 3 year old daughter? what is he talking about? Little tip, when writing an article such as this, you might want to try avoiding the use of personal opinion and irelevant facts to support an idea (which is already ridiculous to begin with). If women have a problem with the ski, let them fend for themselves. Until then, improve your writing skills and wear a helmet more often. All that falling on your head in the backcountry has caused some severe damage. Maybe you should review your thoughts as to what the relevance is between a modern depiction of horror and the glorification of violence against women.
Many people would agree with me, that this was the best graffic so far. There are no meanings behind them. I'm sure that if the Rossignol's women team had a problem with the ski, they might have said something.
So just keep your opinions to yourself, and use Bandits instead of ruining it for the rest of us.
Apr 8 2004 10:31PM
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Triple_Strum
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^I enjoyed your post. well done.

p.s. - graphic, not graffic, if you care

'can you read what that says?'
'donna simma?'
'yes, that's right. now how would that appear in a phone book?'
'simma, donna?'
'that's right now Simma down na!
Apr 8 2004 11:06PM
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fdsa
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Point 1: The whole thing was gay.
First off, I don't know about you guys, but I'm offended that people think I'm stupid enough to take an inkblot graphic and use it as a basis for committing murder.
Second, the graphic looked nothing like that and if that gay rep hadn't opened his mouth, none of this would have happened.
Third, why would anyone feel the need to purchase a ski solely based on the fact that it depicts violence against women? That's some 5 grade fag kick. Anybody who likes killing women (or men for that matter) is just mal-adjusted.
Fourth, Why do you have to interpret the graphic in the first place? Graphics are cool to talk about on the lifts, but striking up a conversation with a hot chick in the next seat about how your skis depict somebody cutting her throat is going to be a little akward.
Lastly, this whole thing was gay from the beginning and should be dully filed into the shelves of history under 'gayness.'
Apr 8 2004 11:28PM
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___ASP___
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crazy that is the first time have looked at the pic and seen the throat slash, if no one said anyhting i wouldnt have had a clue
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Apr 8 2004 11:41PM
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Reaps
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maybe now it will just be an image (a clearer image) of FREDDY and his claw. that's still be pretty dirty! lets hope!
Apr 9 2004 12:38AM
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shawnm1260
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a real word of truth from a rossi meeting...

When the canadian team/product manager said that stuff at vegas, most people that work at rossi had a feeling that that would be bad publicity...

to make a long story short, the entire production has been stoped and the skis that have been made with that graphic will remain inhouse.

the 05 scratch bc graphics are currently being redone....chances are it will be a slightly modified version of last years which was a nude woman. the color scheme will remain. black red and silver.
ill keep the info coming as i recieve it.

but for those that care... rossi took this very seriously, and is sorry, to anybody that took this offensivly....it was not meant that way
Apr 9 2004 12:09PM
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Papa
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that's gay, that was a sweet original graphic taht was really smooth, and chances are most people can't even see waht it's supposed to be, people are just to sensitive now a days







A homophobe once told me that skiing on parabolics is like getting a blowjob from a gay guy, it feels good until you look down.

Apr 9 2004 7:58PM
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lucyford
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let's tell mitch what an ignorant ass he is...
mitch@telemarktips.com

Telemarktips.com..
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Aliso Viejo, CA
92656

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Apr 16 2004 6:02PM
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permanente1600
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gay.... im sure rossignol started production of that ski already, and now they are just going to keep them in house and not distribute them, what a freaking waste. i think that guy who wrote the article should be more upset about the fact that all those materials were wasted rather than be upset about the graphics.




Titanya: But Duff Man, you said if I slept with you I wouldn't have to touch the drink!
Duff Man: Duff Man... says a lot of things! Oh, yeah!
Apr 16 2004 7:13PM
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Pklink04
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well then why don't we just get rid of any offencive graphics: Skogens promote war with bombs, new chronics promote death with skulls, any k2 has something not nice, guns, prison, riots. anyone can make a complaint on any ski, rossi just needs to do what they want, not listen to some sissy tool who cant stand to see a extreme graphic. Quit your damn complaining and learn to live with the girl gettin sliced.



If The women don't find you handsome... atleast they will find you handy

(Red Green)
Apr 16 2004 8:17PM
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D-40
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its from a classic movie for goodness sake. what is this world coming to.
Apr 16 2004 9:03PM
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freezeskier540
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rossi came up with the idea of the naked chick which was pretty sweet and which i didnt notice for lie a year then they came out with this... they have sweet ideas



'party people gather round countdown to the apocolypse, im the kid with the golden arm and the motherfuckin hot nikks'
Apr 17 2004 9:14AM
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rightcoastskier
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yea they got some creative people working for them



its all about the 609
Apr 17 2004 11:14AM
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shasta
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i never knew what the white bit was. i just thought that the black part was some punk dude with spiky hair.
a pity though, coz it looks cool.

here is a slogan of a japanese snack company (concerning a certain type of potatoe chip):
baked freshly so in large oil, that we can together eat happily this delicious food product
Apr 17 2004 11:32AM
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$1080PLP$
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yeah if you look at it upsidedown it lookes like a guy with spike hair you can even see his shirt.

.:l[Tyler]l:.

i love the pink! - my girlfriend

When I was 15 i found a mole on my neck and i knew then that I should try to make a living skiing... - Eric Pollard
Apr 17 2004 6:03PM
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mikeski
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dope, i hope i can get new ones when mine break
I am one of the badest mother fuckers of all time.... I am one of the best singers and one of the best lookin mother fuckers you have ever seen... Hold my drink Bitch
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Apr 17 2004 6:35PM
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shawnm1260
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just wait the new ones are sick to
Apr 17 2004 9:10PM
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Big_Air_Smite
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I emailed them saying it sucked, I didn't like the graphic and have every right to tell them so. I wrote them a civil email saying I didn't think that kind of graphic had any place in skiing. I would also write to LINE (my favourite company) if they released a graphic featuring that kind of violence, especially against women. Come on, take a hit... call me 'gay'... i'll be so suprised...
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Apr 18 2004 6:09AM
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Fattwins
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I liked the graphic but is was way out there. after learning the meaning in a sense it was a bit much for regular people to swallow. remember these are the same peeps who sue McDs for fattness or sue cause they crashed into trees or crashed in the park they take the blame for nothing. sic graphics but really not accepted in North america at this time ps Japan will take em as will Europe.
P.S. JAPAN HAS SICK POWDER
Apr 18 2004 6:59AM
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poorboy
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i saw someone riding them yesterday in switzerland. looked fukin sweet. sucks for rossi
Dont go to England...E V E R
Apr 18 2004 10:35AM
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permanente1600
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its sad that people are so sensitive to these kind of things. just cuz you make them take it off the ski doesnt mean that violence is going to go away. i can understand that you dont want to be surrounded by violent imagery, but still you gotta feel bad for rossignol for making them waste all those materials and whatnot.




Titanya: But Duff Man, you said if I slept with you I wouldn't have to touch the drink!
Duff Man: Duff Man... says a lot of things! Oh, yeah!
Apr 18 2004 1:04PM
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Jib_This
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I actually read the article in question, and 5 pages of the resulting discussion threads on telemarktips.com

I can honestly say that Rossi got fucked on this one. A group of older, right wing telemarkers with children mis-interpreted a graphic and drew conclusions that made almost no sense. I even got to read stuff like 'can we forward this to womens organizations and the mainstream media to get them on our side too?'. Undoubtedly though, my favourite post of all was the one that read

'Maybe a copy of the editorial and coresponding thread should be sent to Bill O'Reilly at Fox News. Inspite of the fact I don't agree with somethings he says, nor do I care for the way he interviews people, he still will doggedly go after something he believes is morally wrong; I think this is something he'd believe is wrong. He has gone after the Anheuser-Busch/Ludacris thing and before that Pepsi. Issues both of which I don't find nearly as offensive as Rossi's poor taste. I'd do it myself, but I'm not very computer literate.'


This is a classic case of desperate people looking for any cause to support to help them feel better about their worthless lives. It's even funnier when you realize that the ski itself was never designed with them in mind, but rather by freeskiers for freeskiing.

I'll make sure to kick the shit out of any telemarker I see riding the 'improved' 2004-2005 Scratch BC.




TMC WUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
WE KILL YOU
SKIER: How would you describe your style?
PJ Cliche: Total skate influence. Even doh dis is on concrete, an you are face sideways, an it has sweet fuck all to do with ski, skate 'as play a huge role wit my steeze.
Apr 18 2004 4:09PM
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Dani
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u got a link to the thread on the tele site? i searched and i couldnt find it

Apr 18 2004 4:30PM
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anomericas
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Ok, what the hell, I still don't see the graphic.
|Carl F-G|


Accept no one's defitnition of your life: Define your self. Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim.
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Apr 18 2004 4:39PM
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