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Most under-rated camera ?

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315jibber94
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whats a good camera that takes good motion pictures and still has real good video quality etc. and something thats under 400ish bucks.

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Jun 25 2010 4:54PM
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Jordan
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GoPro HD....



seems to fit a lot of people's requests.
Jun 25 2010 4:57PM
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315jibber94
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forgot to say an ACTUAL CAMERA.

Jun 25 2010 6:13PM
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s.erickson
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Thats a lot to ask for if you only want to drop sub-400 bucks. GoPro is your best bet so dont be a dick
Jun 25 2010 6:32PM
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dylansiggers
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You are stupid for so quickly dismissing the gopro. they are sick.


bump your pirce range for a t2i if you want an slr with video....
Jun 25 2010 6:42PM
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family_vacation
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then you won't be paying less that $400.
Jun 25 2010 6:43PM
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tom.skier
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This. Just went for the T2i and love it
Jun 25 2010 7:13PM
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MadSteezin
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I've heard so many great things about the Canon T2i that I wish I had it instead of my Canon HV30...
Jun 25 2010 7:27PM
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315jibber94
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no didnt mean to be a dick. i cap locked it so people scrolling down see it. no im not buying a gopro. i need it for actual pictures...with like a screen and shit. my friend bought a cannon camera. it looks like the t2i but a little smaller. and it took sick videos/pictures. idk what it was tho. and it was like 280 at walmart. haha it was sweet tho
Jun 25 2010 8:25PM
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family_vacation
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yeah, bump it to about $2,000 for a complete SLR setup.
Jun 25 2010 9:51PM
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MadSteezin
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nah, like $1,200 or maybe less
Jun 25 2010 11:23PM
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Blandct
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you seem to have a lot of knowledge on the subject.
Jun 25 2010 11:24PM
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cool.
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please do some research (just look around at leasttt) before you start asking questions and making threads.
Jun 25 2010 11:26PM
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eheath
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hv30s are pretty underrated still
Jun 26 2010 1:01AM
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goodiepocket
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I beg to differ....
Jun 26 2010 1:04AM
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family_vacation
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yeah, good luck with that.

camera body= 800
one solid lens=500
glidecam=200
batteries/grip=100
SD card=50
tripod=300
Total: $1,950
and this is the BARE MINIMUM assuming you have a case and all that stuff already. Also, who only wants one lens?
Jun 26 2010 1:09AM
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ILoveOhio
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People need to stop suggesting the fucking gopro.  That's just simply promoting lazy, shitty, film making.

I guess you could buy a refurbished HV30/40 or one of the similar, flash based, cameras that canon makes.  A t2i setup is going to run you too much for what you're looking to spend.
Jun 26 2010 1:44AM
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MAC.D
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Yep. Bought my Canon HF 10 for $550 refurbished
Jun 26 2010 9:25AM
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miroz
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+1 for Steve.

Keep saving mang, $400 doesn't get you very far...

Jun 26 2010 11:33AM
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315jibber94
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ya, im not loooking to start a flim production or anything. im really good at taking pictures with the right angles and stuff and contrast but my last camera broke. im looking to get something more legit than that last one too. and something that takes good videos too so i can learn how to edit good before i drop alot on a professional camera. like i dont want to save up and drop 2k on a camera and have it sit around and not get used to its potential. ya know so i figured there would be some kids on here who basically went on a limb and bought a cheap camera but its actually pretty sick on what it does...get wha i mean?

Jun 26 2010 1:24PM
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FMeissner
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/651671-REG/Pentax_16301_Pentax_K_x_Digital_SLR.html

Around $530, 12.4MP (more than enough), can do 720p video, and from a reputable company. If you want to take good pictures and decent video, keep an eye on this.
Jun 26 2010 1:42PM
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thisandthatfilms
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BUY MY HV30!!! lots of extras
Jun 26 2010 3:09PM
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NickSki.
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GS series from Panasonic
Jun 26 2010 11:55PM
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[-mvee-]
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hv30. has the most manual controls for an hd camera in that price range forsure.
Jun 27 2010 12:29AM
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Ben.
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a glidecam isnt essential.

neither really is a battery grip.

and if you ebay hunt you can get some solid primes for less than 500 and have multiple lenses

you also dont need to drop 300 dollars on a tripod.


a t2i setup wont be cheap, but you can do it for less than 2 grand i would think. at least for a kid looking to make some edits and have fun, not pro-level stuff.
Jun 27 2010 2:21AM
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LiamMcKinley
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for sure. ive seen some reeeal nice stuff from the hv30.
Jun 27 2010 9:12AM
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315jibber94
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ya im seein what kind of cash i can scrap up to buy thisandthatfilms hv30. its high tho. i wasnt looking at getting one right now thats why, thats why all you guys neeed to BUY MY SHIT! haa
Jun 27 2010 9:30AM
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icantskiiFILM
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gs320. when used right...u can get amazing shit. heres something me and "thisandthatfilms" did one day with it. colors on it get pretty good.

35mm Adapter Longboarding Video from Jack Atkins on Vimeo.

Jun 27 2010 1:10PM
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family_vacation
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that's debatable....


Around 250 is where manfrotto's basic fluid head video completes come into play( I'm really happy with mine), and you do want some type of stabilization, you can't take hand held video with a slr, it's impossible to hold my T2i still enough to look good.

I don't have a nice 500 lens, I'm going to prime route, and I wish I also had nice super wide lens with a bit of zoom.

but the moral of this is, $400 is not going to get anything worth buying.
Jun 27 2010 2:12PM
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Ben.
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thats absolutely true. 400 is not getting anything decent.

and you do need some sort of stabilization for sure.

but again, as a non pro just having fun filming, he can probably make do with a cheaper tripod. it wont be perfect but i doubt hed even notice.


and ive seen some incredibly smooth footage from homemade handles on skateperception.
Jun 27 2010 7:09PM
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miroz
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Is that with a DSLR though?  The HDDSLRS, from what I heard, have terrible issues with shake...
Jun 27 2010 8:01PM
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Ben.
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yep. t2i's and 7d's. and 5dmkII's but those are considerably larger/heftier so they are a little easier to hold steady.
Jun 27 2010 8:03PM
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315jibber94
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well i already have a tripod. fold up tiny its sick. but can anyone shoot me in the direction of a actual camera for pictures. that has some good video quality too...thats what im tryin to get at. ik you can get some camera with high mp for not like 600 bucks

Jun 27 2010 10:40PM
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family_vacation
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ehh, cheaping out on tripods is bad. It will last you for several cameras, and the cheaper velbons just feel like crap compared to the lower priced models from nicer manufacturers.


and If you're looking for a photo camera at this price range, then solid video is really not going to be an option. The only good photo cameras that take solid video are the DSLRs that are being mentioned, and they are not in your price range. So it sounds like you need to prioritize video or photography, or increase your budget by enough to buy a canon consumer camera and a photo camera. The HDSLR option just sounds like a bad choice for you now.


Here are some good options

If you want a photo camera in this price range,
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/643177-REG/Canon_3632B001_PowerShot_G11_Digital_Camera.html

and if it's video, I'd say have a look at the canon HV series or the similar tape based models. and whatever you do, DON"T GET A HARDDRIVE BASED ONE
Jun 27 2010 11:15PM
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Deezy
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Go Pro HD
Jun 28 2010 1:01PM
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Deezy
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under rated: Gopro
sub 400: GoPro
fucking sick camera that films everything, 60fps, 1080p, 5mp stills, fisheye, fits in ur pocket, can ski al day with it and not know u have it, not loose any skiing quality because u want to film... GoPro HD dude, best camera.

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Jun 28 2010 1:04PM
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miroz
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LAWL did you even read the thread?
Jun 28 2010 4:42PM
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eheath
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Don't give advice if you don't know what youre talking about.
Jun 28 2010 5:05PM
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Deezy
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he wants a good under rated camera. under 400 bucks. i cant think of any others.

if he has changed his mind. well i didnt read the whole thread.

and i have a GoPro HD, i skied with it every day. some days i forgot i had it, i just think its a great little camera.

please don't jump to conclusions about someone's knowlage.
Jun 28 2010 5:11PM
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miroz
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I have a GoPro too, so yes I know all about its perks, but it is NOT an "ACTUAL CAMERA."  It doesn't zoom, no manual focus/white balance/exposure, an awkward fisheye, no real stabilization options, etc; the GoPro is great for lazy filmers - the followcam people who don't really care about aesthetics so much as that they GTS.

The GoPro IMO shoud serve no more than a B-roll camera.  Its great as a head cam, great underwater and in funny angles, but should really just compliment another camera which has more options with regard to shot movement and composition. 

I've only seen one person use a GoPro well as a sole camera, and he's in film school (I think) in SoCal.  The rest are just lazy.  While it may be all one can afford, it is still not a good camera to learn ANYTHING with regard to film.

Get learned.

Jun 28 2010 5:31PM
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Deezy
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camera 1 |ˈkam(ə)rə|
noun
a device for recording visual images in the form of photographs, movie film, or video signals.

where does it say anything about manual functions.

i know you want a camera that you can control and that is a BETTER camera, the functions come with money and under 400 bucks wont get u much. and this is an actual camera, you can control the angle and sometimes thats all u need... right.
ok, someone show me a good camera under 400 bucks that has manual everything... anything.

and im a photographer so im not a film pro but i do know a little bit.
Jun 28 2010 5:53PM
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miroz
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Duh Mr. Literal, but I think it was implied.

And you won't find one, unfortunately, as this thread creator is finding out.  His best bet is to save his money and buy something later.

Jun 29 2010 12:38AM
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Deezy
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exactly, this is the answer to anyone who wants to buy a camera. people ask me.. hey whats a good camera for 300 bucks??
same answer to everyone.
Jun 29 2010 3:35PM
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315jibber94
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alright. ill prob end up doing that

 thanks for the help

Jun 29 2010 5:52PM
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Deezy
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sorry guys (blondie.) for the hostility.

and if you want to you can go to ur local shop and rent everything out, this way you get a better feeling as to what fits your needs.
Jun 29 2010 7:44PM
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miroz
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It's all good B, I love me a good nerdy camera argument.
Jun 29 2010 8:01PM
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ILoveOhio
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d00d it ain't l3g1t if it doesn't havv a handelll.  i herdd vx one thousands get the dopest colourrz.  don't forget to pick up a hella minty mk1 so you can just follow the persun with teh built in handul. ;-).

hi blondie.
Jun 29 2010 9:41PM
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mak
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the t2i is definitely smaller, but the 7d is actually a slight bit heavier, only 10g, and only a little bit smaller than the 5d mark 2.
Jun 30 2010 10:30AM
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miroz
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Twoo dat. Hai S+ev3!
Jun 30 2010 11:41AM
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