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Anyone ever run a marathon/half marathon?

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skierdudeguy
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Hi all. I've been kicking around the idea (for the last hour or so) of training to run a half marathon. I've never done anything like this before, but it seems like a hell of a challenge. I'm not quite committed, but once I put it on my Bucket List, I have no choice. Anyone ever done something like this? Will I still be able to build a lot of muscle so I could play something like rugby, or are the two pretty much mutually exclusive?
Jun 21 2010 10:18PM
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lineskier10
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it cant be that hard if you train a decent amount, im not sure how much but i know my sister ran a marathon and shes not that athletic she just runs a lot, she doesnt smoke weed though, i do though so i have no idea how much training you would need to do
Jun 21 2010 10:22PM
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lineskier10
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someone lower my karma a bit i want it to get to 7337
Jun 21 2010 10:23PM
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Style+eeze
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if my mom could do it when she was 48, you can fucking do it. that's all you need to hear. good night, and good luck.
Jun 21 2010 10:24PM
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soulskier
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there are lost of resources out there as far as training programs
the last one i was looking at was a 15 week program starting out the first day by running 10 miles
Jun 21 2010 10:26PM
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Darth_Veeder
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The two are definatly mutually exclusive, you will be building anerobic muscle, which is muscle that functions long periods of time (slow twitch) without oxygen, while rugby and bulking up in general requires aerobic muscle, which is fast twitch and can deliver short bursts of power.
Training for marathon will not get you shape for rugby.
Jun 21 2010 10:40PM
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Myfirstname.
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Damn I tried... Its either too high or too low? Do you have a preference? haha
Jun 21 2010 10:40PM
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lineskier10
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dont care really
Jun 21 2010 10:43PM
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jester8589
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grandma's marathon in duluth was this past weekend and i sat on a couch on the street drinking beer and cheering people on. couple people pointed at me and told me i should run it next year. so i think i will. just going to train on my own by running longer distances. start with 4-5 and up it every so often. or maybe just run for an hour or so when i get better. my goal for a marathon would be to simply jog the whole thing and never walk or stop. don't care about time really.
Jun 21 2010 10:51PM
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jamers
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ive ran 3 half marathons, theyre really not bad at all, its a good distance and completely doable if your in decent shape. I run cross country so before running a half i had ran like 10 miles max. You should be in good shape to run a half marathon, but you need to do some serious training if your gonna run a marathon.
Jun 21 2010 11:10PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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Stop talking, you're making everyone else dumber.


Anaerobic exercises(any muscle can be anaerobic) are short bursts of intense power that do not access the cardiovascular system, but focus on muscular output and using gylcogen stores.

aerobic exercises(running marathons) require an insanely in shape cardiovascular system. People don't realize that running a marathon, is 26 fucking miles. Training for a marathon is something that isn't to be taken lightly, and definitely can't be done while training for rugby. The less amount of muscle you have, the better you will be at running marathons, it increases your efficiency. Less muscle=less stuff to oxygenate. In short, rugby while a very intense sport, is not the same kind of intense as running a marathon.



p.s. Did you know that people who finish marathons generally have horrible breath and body odor? It's because their body is breaking down everything to keep them running, that includes toxins left in what little fat they have, and that's where you get the disgusting smells.
Jun 21 2010 11:11PM
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Darth_Veeder
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A. I am sorry I got the two kind of muscles mixed up, doesnt change the facts to much if I accidently call something by the wrong name.
Also, at the end I said that training for rugby and trainign for a marathon are definatly mutually exclusive.
Jun 21 2010 11:14PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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You don't have aerobic and anaerobic muscles, just aerobic and anaerobic exercises.
Jun 22 2010 8:29AM
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Uncle.Badness
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If you are in shape at all a half marathon shouldn't be that hard.
Jun 22 2010 8:32AM
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Mayer
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I've done two marathons and four half.
If you are in normal good shape a half shouldn't be hard to do.
Just run a lot, but be careful not running too much! Injuries is a bitch.
You have to run both long distances to train your muscles and short to train your lungs and heart.
Just google some exercise-programs for half-marathon and follow it.
Jun 22 2010 8:51AM
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thebeesknees
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my dads done 3 ironmans and is doing another one in about a month.  hes gonna turn 51 next month, you can do it too bro
Jun 22 2010 11:52AM
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smuggs
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U could wake up off the couch eating doritos and do a half marathon.

Jun 22 2010 3:11PM
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.Ben
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it would definitely be hard to put on any new muscle but if you work out while you train for a half marathon you probably wont lose too much muscle. You will be burning a shit ton of calories though and wont have as much energy for strength training.
Jun 22 2010 3:19PM
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jibopoly23
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Don’t usually comment, but this guy talks so much shit

First of all he said that, and i quote "any muscle can be anaerobic" then 2 posts later "You don't have aerobic and anaerobic muscles, just aerobic and anaerobic exercise" slight contradiction.

"Anaerobic exercises (any muscle can be anaerobic) are short bursts of intense power that do not access the cardiovascular system" Do you even know what the cardiovascular system is???

"Anaerobic exercises(any muscle can be anaerobic) are short bursts of intense power that do not access the cardiovascular system, but focus on muscular output and using glycogen stores."

The energy system you would utilise during short bursts would the phosphocreatine  system and it uses creatine as fuel not fucking glycogen, you utilise glycogen from 15secs to possibly 3 minutes in some elite athletes, that defo isn't a "short burst"

Why do you try and bullshit folk with every fitness/sport related post?

Jun 22 2010 5:57PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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Let's get something straight


1.) Any muscle can be anaerobic meaning, you can do an anaerobic exercise. In terms of actual muscle construction, it would be slow twitch, fast twitch A, fast twitch B. As you probably know, anaerobic literally means without air.

The cardiovascular system moves blood around the body, and hence oxygen. You need to oxygenate your muscles during any aerobic exercise.



You would use the ATP-PC, which is the exact same thing. Except the thresholds are a bit different than you listed, it changes to anaerobic from ATP-PC after 10 seconds, and anaerobic lasts up until 2 minutes. After that the aerobic system takes over.



Tadaaaaa, we didn't actually disagree. You just didn't understand what I was saying.




Jun 22 2010 6:08PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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AND ANOTHER THING!



Type 2 B muscle fibre( i.e. the ATP-PC system) still utilizes glycogen for energy.



Jun 22 2010 6:11PM
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thebeesknees
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yeah man they're so legit, cross training would help you loads for your half marathon
Jun 22 2010 6:29PM
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jibopoly23
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“Any muscle can be anaerobic meaning, you can do an anaerobic exercise. In terms of actual muscle construction, it would be slow twitch, fast twitch A, fast twitch B. As you probably know, anaerobic literally means without air.”

A muscle isn’t purely made up of slow twitch oxidative fibres or fast twitch glycolytic fibres or fast oxidative glycol ytic fibres, it is made up a mixture of all 3. Typical human distribution would be about 59% slow twitch 39% fast twitch fast twitch b 2% .

Elite marathon runners have significantly more slow twitch oxidative fibres, at about 79% slow twitch oxidative fibres

 “ATP-PC after 10 seconds” not trying to start an argument but you utilise A.T.P  by itself for about 4 seconds, then your body starts to re-synthesise A.T.P by using the phosphocreatine system, which lasts for about 10 seconds, this is why i said 14 seconds, common misconception that the atp-pc only lasts for 10 seconds. Also some elite middle distance runners can run anaerobically  for just under 3 minutes.

“The cardiovascular system moves blood around the body, and hence oxygen. You need to oxygenate your muscles during any aerobic exercise”

The reason I quoted you on this is because you said the body doesn’t use the cardio vascular system when working anarerobically , when obviously it is constantly working, even when working anaerobically. I understood what you meant and there was no real need for me to quote you on that.

Why are we talking about  fibre types, A.T.P and the body systems the creator just asked for some help with regards to running a half marathon, I should have tried and helped him instead of trying to start a argument.

Jun 22 2010 7:20PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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touche my friend.


I was always told in exercise physiology that ATP-PC lasted for 10 seconds, I even researched it because I liked pwning my teacher.


Jun 22 2010 7:48PM
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yourthemannowdog
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I am training for a half too, I have been for a month now. I find that running long distances is mentality. You need to be able to think about nothing. My daily runs are 3 miles and my long runs are 8. When running for more than 30 mins you need to think about nothing. When you think about your strides you fuck your stride up, when you think about breathing you fuck that up, ect. If you have the mentality training won't be too difficult.

Also set a pace, and run that pace from today to the day you run what you are training for. I run 7 minute miles, that will put me at about 1h30m. If you know your pace consistently run it the progression of your run will be clearer. Those are my two tips for you. What marathon are you planing to run in? If anyone is running the hampton half marathon PM me
Jun 22 2010 8:00PM
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Mr.Feeny
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ive ran a half marathon, its pretty tough but if you train for a couple months, you'll be fine, what i would do if your trying to build muscle too, find a half marathon like 3 months or more away, and lift twice a week, like tuesday thursday, and run mon, wed, fri. you'll build muscle and for 13 miles to be honest you dont have to train for a long time. i say 3 months because if your not used to running and lifting, you'll be sore for the first couple weeks until you get used to the routine and can handle it
Jun 22 2010 9:59PM
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charmander
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you can do a half for sure, we run half marathons sometimes training for 5k haha
Jun 22 2010 10:02PM
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jester8589
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building muscle for running marathons? oxymoron?
Jun 22 2010 10:17PM
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nickski1
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i'm 3 inches hard
Jun 22 2010 10:19PM
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yourthemannowdog
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play ping pong!
Jun 23 2010 1:43AM
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Utard
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I've run a few halves before and it's really not that bad if you have a schedule and stick to it
Jun 23 2010 4:11AM
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