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Trouble Makers

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all_about_style
Posts: 6 - Karma: 10
I'm going to be buying new skis next season, and I want some oppinions on the trouble makers. I spend most of my time on rails, so I need to know if they hold up
Apr 13 2004 7:57PM
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jman
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Mine haven't help up well at all on rails, I'm losing edges all over the place, so if your looking to do a lot of rails, not tm.
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Apr 13 2004 8:08PM
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R.Fahey
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WOW........ i love my TM's, but if you are a railing fool, as i am, don't get em. my edges fell out soo fast, and i am not sliding on my core. my skis are sooo haggard lookin.
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Apr 13 2004 9:11PM
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SeanHolmz
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I have never ridden TM's but I have heard nothing but bad about them on rails. They are a light ski with good pop and good for pipe and park but don't go too well with rails.
Apr 13 2004 9:34PM
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skihillraod
Posts: 1852 - Karma: 45
dynastars are butter on rails the base and edge will either pull out or slowly conform to the shape of the rail in the ptex! I recommend new Seth Pistols with double-wide edge or scratch's (as close to dynastar as you could get)
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Apr 14 2004 12:34PM
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MaryJane
Posts: 193 - Karma: 10
Yeah, if you're going to be sliding rails, don't get the TM's. I personally don't do rails, but Everyone I talk to says they don't hold up well. For everything else, the TM's are FANTASTIC!! The harder you push them, the better they respond!

I disagree with the post a couple above me saying they are a light ski. They are definately heavier than some of the twins I've been on this season.


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Apr 14 2004 3:58PM
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webquique
Posts: 30 - Karma: 10
I wanna buy TM. I don´t slide rails so � won´t have too much problems with the edges (only the frecuent stones in my resort) Is TM stiff enough to go well on piste? Which is softer, PE or TM?
Apr 15 2004 5:41PM
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patrickcowan
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They are soft as hell but suprising good.
the one down side is you can't go fast in crud cause of how soft they are





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Apr 15 2004 5:46PM
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webquique
Posts: 30 - Karma: 10
uopsss, and how do they do in pow?
Apr 15 2004 5:57PM
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Triple_Strum
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^I've got a pair of 182 cm with p14 bindings. buy them :)

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Apr 16 2004 8:21AM
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webquique
Posts: 30 - Karma: 10
I´ve ridden Scratch FS and they were soft us gum. I wonder if TMs are as soft as Scratch or stiffer to be better in all mountain terrain
Apr 16 2004 6:04PM
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MaryJane
Posts: 193 - Karma: 10
The TM's are BY FAR stiffer than the scratches.

Are you guys saying the TM's are soft??


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Apr 16 2004 6:38PM
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webquique
Posts: 30 - Karma: 10
People say they are too soft to ride fast and well on groomers and ice. Is that wrong??
Apr 16 2004 8:02PM
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michelle
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They ride okay on groomers. But a couple times I went too fast then just yardsaled because they lost control. Or I lost control. Whatever.
Apr 16 2004 9:09PM
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MaryJane
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In my opinion....Absolutly!! I don't understand how people can consider the TM's soft, espcially compaired to the scratches. My brother has this season's FS and they are WAY softer than my TM's.

I had about 25-30 days on them this season in CO, and in my experience the harder and faster I pushed them...the better they held and responded. When I didn't feel like hitting up the park, I loved to find a good cordory groomer and lay down some fast super G turns. They responded great! Incredibly stable and incredibly solid. (I tried this on my brothers Scratches and they wouldn't hold as well....just seemed to 'noodle out' under my feet.)

A friend of mine skis on a pair of Armada's (same size as my Makers) and he commented on how stiff mine were compaired to his AR5's.

So yeah, the TM's are a stiffer ski. Of the people who have skied on them and consider them soft....what are you compairing them too, steel?


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Apr 16 2004 9:26PM
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smuggs
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absolutely the harder you ski the trouble maker the more amazing it gets. i got a chance to take mine out west where the trails are longer wider and steeper and it was amazing just to lay em over and make huge fast turns on them.

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Apr 16 2004 10:10PM
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webquique
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Ok, that was my doubt because I had ridden Scrath FS and I didn´t like them because of the softness so I wanted to compare them with TMs. I have ridden 1080 too so if TMs have about the same stiffness I think I´m going on them It´s the cheapest among the three I had selected: TMs 470 $, V-Pro 580 $ and PEs (2005) 630 $ all with Salomon S912 binddings.
Apr 17 2004 7:10AM
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freezeskier540
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take a tm pro model... the top sheet is gonna be softer which could help with the edges staying in... i bought tm's last year and my edges fell out but it might be better next year



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Apr 17 2004 9:16AM
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D-40
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damn man pe's for 630 with the bindings. i got mine for 450 same setup
Apr 17 2004 9:51AM
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rasser
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OK, so I ride 8/9 of the time park and pipe 1/9 on normal. And I ski about one week straight in a season pow. So how would they be on that kinda use?
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Apr 17 2004 10:14AM
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TwinTipRider
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if you really wanted the best of both worlds you could et the tm's and get the edges under the boot angled so they never really touch the rail
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Apr 18 2004 5:29PM
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Barmski
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^ edges angled under the boot what are u talkin about??? haha im so confused.
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