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poles: necessary, or gay?
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well, which is it? no blows....touch gloves and fight clean...
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does it really matter? why should not using poles be offensive to anyone? you all act like it's this grave injustice to the sport. shit, just go skiing for chrissake. I'm a pole user, but I'd reccomend that you all should try the no-poles thing sometime. It really helps with your bodily awareness. bottom line, if it were ski season we would be skiing instead of arguing pointless shit.
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^ chew got it.
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hmmmm....everyone that says you can't ski without poles is a complete idiot. if you can ski with poles, and skiing without them should prove that you are a well rounded skier. dropping the poles creates a complete separation of upper and lower body movement, the basis of todays style. if you can't ski without poles, then chances are, you can't ski in the first place. dicks.
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i cant ski without poles.. it just doesnt feel right
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If you can't ski without poles, you have really shitty balance, and are a pretty bad skier.
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yeah whatever, they are just there ya know
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Read my post above, does that mean I'm a shitty skier? I don't think I am, in fact, I know I'm not.
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Actually, skiing without poles helps you separate upper body movement from lower body. And do you use your poles to ski switch?
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But this seperation must be rotational... making it bad in my opinion. And that's all this is, my opinion. I ski with poles for everything.
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You know who doesn't use poles? Snowboarders
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without poles its not skiing.. u dont see snowboarders grabbing poles to go into the park
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get out of the fucking park, then you might actually learn how to ski...otherwise you might as well be a snowblader...
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i hope im not alone by saying if you have skis on your feet then you are skiing. and no poles in the park is cool with me, andy even makes it look good. but outside the park i say get your poles
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i say they are necesary
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how about this...you talk shit all you want, but for no reason...until you have ridden with me with no poles, how can you say shit? its not like it changes the way i ski. i mean, sure, i cant pole plant anymore, but how fucking stylie is a pole plant? id rather just ride it switch. and how much do you need your poles for riding switch...id hope not very much. skiing without poles is still skiing. i have 2 boards on my feet, i go down the hill.. so really now, why do you think im riding without them? obviously to raise controversy on here, and obviously to make people hate on me because i do something different...well, im not the first. you say pete looked gay with no poles...whatever, he slays everyone here. i dont see you all talking shit about pollard, who knows what riding with no poles will do for your style. so just chill the fuck out, drop your poles for however long it takes you to get used to riding without them, and then tell me how gay it is...this is just as bad as snowboarders hating on skiers because they dont snowboard...peace, im going skiing...without my fucking poles
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SKINNG W/O Poles isnt skiing its a missing link! If i ran around the mountain with a pair of poles and tennis shoes on my feet i wouldnt say im skiing!! They are very necsasary in the BC and shit like that! You are only a completely fucking idiot if you are bashing ppl who use poles becuz skiing wasnt always about switch, shaped skis throw on a pair of 183cm straight skis and hit the BC w/o some poles then post in this thread!
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I'm sure andy could go in the backcountry without poles and kill it there too.
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^^Andy wasnt basshing people t hat use poles in the bc man. He was saying how useless they are ESPECIALLY for riding switch cuz they hav absolutelyt no point. Everyone on here worships pollard by now and says how smooth he is.....hmmmm I wonder how that happen -b/c he skied with no poles for like 2 years straight no joke. So NOW think about that when you bash people without poles. And I don't see why pete mithhofo wasnt smooth....he barely failed if he did at all. You just didn't accept and didnt give a chance. It was smooth but the no poles part just clouded your mind and pissed you off. whatever
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check the alpental vid, and just *imagine* poles in andy's hands....does that change shit?
i rest my case.
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yo...many things have been said here...and many things have been misunderstood...andy rides with no poles occasionally...i've witnessed this and he kills it...he is not saying that poles are gay and noone should use them...he simply chooses not to use them and to him, (and many other skiers), this helps his style...now unless you've rode with andy when he is or isnt using poles, you have no right to criticize the usefullness of poles
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i know what poles do...come on now...not like ive skied for almost as many years as ive been alive. but enough of this poles are what make you a skier shit. 1 ski on each of my feet makes me just as much of a skier as the next guy. racers use poles, which is necessary...if you havent ever raced, then you may not realize their importance there... but are we racers? do we really need things in our hands to make grabs not as cool? instead of dissing no poles...try it...i have nothing against poles. they are a part of skiing, but 'part' is the key word. if you snowboard down the hill with poles in your hand, does that make you not a snowboarder? why doesnt everyone just chill out, go ride because you like to ride...thats what i do...you dont hear me dissin on danglers and that type of shit...i may not agree with it, but i dont think someone is gay because they do....keep on firing...it makes me want to ride without poles more and more
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Once my knee heals up I think I'm goint to start skiing a few more times no-poles, it's fun.
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to everyone who says that if you dont use poles its not skiing, does that mean if a snowboarder were to pick up poles then they would be skiing? using poles does not make you a skier or not, its the things that are strapped to your feet that make you a skier. poles dont do shit if you're in the park, if you're skiing BC or big mtn they do help with balance.
whether you use poles or not is a personal decision, leave it at that.
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I skied a whole season without and I went back to poles and felt so much stylier. Without poles you look like a bird flapping his arms. you know how snowbladers look? Well thats how I felt. Whatever, I saw the video and must say Andy did look pretty good without poles. But I bet he woulda looked better without them. Its not really skiing without poles. Like I said before, its like ice hocke yand road hockey. Both are fun, and both have their place, but road hockey will never be an sport outside of the road, and skiing without poles will never grow out of the park.
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which is why skiing without them shouldnt matter. its not like i think they are the devil...i just enjoy flapping like a bird...
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ive seen andy in videos and magazines and once in person and i think he is one of the best skiers on this site without question, and he is actually having to defend himself? thats crazy
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the thing about no poles is WHAT THE HELL DO YOU DO WITH YOUR HANDS, and you look like a snowblader, and this, for some strange reason, makes it look gay
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pols all the way
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skiing without poles just dosnt look right but i agree that it feel really weird and it fuck ups your momentum pretty much everywhere on the mountain (park too)
BUT as in racing, if you ski without poles in the park you can try thinking more about your arm movement.
I didnt like pete mwerbvgshgvswbofer segemnt in stereotype for one reason. He was always keeping his arm to the side of his body and his uper body was not aligned with his lower body (wich mad his rail trick look dumb)
IT's all about controllign your whole body and not just the legs or the arms and torso
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last time i went without poles was when i was 4. it would be weird for me w/out em. hard to turn n shit.
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Whoever said Andy has to defend himself should shut the hell up. He's not defending himself, he's arguing his point just like everyone else in this thread. Just because he's been in magazines doesn't mean people aren't allowed to disagree with him. That's the first video I've ever seen of him...he's defenitely a great jibber(probably good all around too) and if he wants to ski without poles, that's his choice. He's not the first and won't be the last. I use poles because I always have, and I ski everywhere on the mountain and use them. I think people look goofy without them, but what did people think about those 'crazy kids that ski backwards' back in the day?? same situation, it'll take time to get used to, but it looks like more and more skiers are going to drop the poles in the park, whatever, progression is all about trying new things. Not my cup of tea though
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def need them u look like a fag without them
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What skier Trav said.
Plus, although I personally dont think that it is necessary or even a good idea, but some people actually do seem to make use of their poles in the park/jumps. One of the world's best actually.
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I see poles as a traditional thing more then anything, and if we were sticking with all the traditions of skiing where the hell would we be?
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I ski with 4 poles bitch. 2 for each hand. I can pole plant twice as fast.
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If you don't want to ski with poles then don't. Skiing doesnt have rules and FUCK all you people out there that say skiing has to be a sertin way. It's all about expressing yourself.
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OK, so maybe im not Mahre or anyone special, but skiing with poles but with a pole-less style is far superior to anything else. And Marhe does pull it off, but there are people like Pollard who have better style IN MY OPINION. Dumont uses poles though, and he looks retarded cuz they always swing around his body when he does spin
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i hate posts where people argue, who cares if he doesn't use poles he could probably run circles around 75% of the people on this site in the park
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wow, three posts now dedicated to this bitch fight. laaaaaame.
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i ride a good amount without poles becuase i usually have a video camera or still camera in my hands. riding without poles makes me a much more agressive skier. Skiing steeps with poles it is real easy to get lazy and be backseat, but without poles you have to force yourself to be forward in the attack position. Im not saying people should go out and ski pow/steeps with no poles, but it will help our skiing if you try it. As for the park, there is no reason for poles unless your candide and like to pole plant off everything. I almost feel more comfortable going off big kickers with no poles holding my camera than i do with poles. Poles are there to help initiate a turn, but with the short fat large sidecut skis of today you really dont need them.
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in the park it doesnt really matter. but if your goin down a 50 degree steep through waist deep powder, you might need poles to help your turns. when you learn how to use them, and they arent just dangling there, they are effective. they are more for yourself, and not for other people watching your steeze.
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haha it IS called skiing, not poleing anyway
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poles are for dancing..haha
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I don't give a shit what they do, I just think skiing without poles looks retarded. You can't look good without poles.
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How many times do I have to tell all of you???
Poles are for people who feel a need to compensate for a lack of penis. This statement is true for both guys and girls.
Now, the joke being made for the second time, here's where it's at: Poles have their uses. If you like skiing with poles, ski with poles. I like poles, so I use them(and I need to compensate for my extremely tiny penis). If someone else wants to ski without poles and kicks the shit out of while doing it, you are no one to bitch about it. No poles forces you to ski differently, as mammothpunks so eloquently explained.
Try going out to your hill tomorrow and skiing without poles to see just how different it is. And how much better you'll be when you go back to your precious poles. Then maybe you can talk shit. Now give it up.
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I've skied without poles from when I learned until today...that's 11 years. I've tried poles and I don't like them, which doesn't mean I can't ski with them. I don't flail my arms and such in the park, I put them where I want them and they stay there unless I screw up (and even people with poles flail when they screw up). I can ski out of the park without poles, they aren't necessary to plant and turn. I even asked a ski instructor who said that with shaped skis, poles aren't necessary except to teach people to move from the basic stem-christi to more advanced parallel technique. She said they were a tool for learning, not a necessity to skiing. What is necessary to skiing is two skis which are of a decent length (the length depends on the height of the skier), not poles or anything else. Skiing without poles isn't snowboarding, as in my opinion snowboarding has no style, skiing without poles has alot (if done properly).
Everyone, of course, it entitled to their own opinion about poles. If you think skiing without poles lacks style, then don't do it. Personally my style is impaired by poles, so I ski without them.
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this shit is crazy...how can such a long post be made out of such a silly topic? bean you suck...thats it. who gives a shit about what other people think about poles. whatever it takes to have good style is what you shall do. so fuck you all, and have a nice day.
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i love how everyone says it looks gay... who HASNT seen andy do it. i have. looks stylie as hell. anyone who says, 'NO POLES ARE GAY!!' or 'POLES ARE GAY' are the stupidest people on this site.its preference, like ski length and boot flex. yea, i dont doubt that skiing without them will make you better, so tomorrow or the next day, im ditchin' my stickers.
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