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Help !! Are my boots too big ?

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cocopop
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Hi, im after some advice/opinions on the below

Ive got Atmoic BTech 120 Boots in 28.5-29.0

I am a US 10.5 - 11 street, depending on brand and fit

The bootfitter at my shop has said they are the right size, but i can lift my heel off the footbed like 2 cm at least,  i can twist my ankle left and right slightly and it feels really loose around the front of my ankle at the top of my foot

When i sit on the lift, my feet come off the footbed with the weight of my skis hanging

my heel wont stay down no matte how tight i crank the  buckles , which just gives me pain, Ive probably had 6-8 adjustments on them and no matter how many pads he stuffs in the ankle area and footbed it doesnt make any difference

the other bootfitters think the boots are at least half size too big. I also measured the footbeds against my ice hockey superfeet footbeds and the ski boot footbeds are are almost a cm longer

What size boots do you people how have US 10.5 - 11 shoes wear ?

Anyone got any advice on the above , they have a guarentee to fit your boots and its getting on almost a year and they still dont fit after so many adjustments, Seems like they are reluctant to give me boots that fit.

May 26 2010 5:07AM
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TheClap.
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Well it's not 28.5-29 it's either 28-28.5 or a 29-29.5
May 26 2010 7:59AM
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Mr_pretzel
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your boots are to big
May 26 2010 8:01AM
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Lemuel
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I have the same size foot as you and wear 28.5 dalbellos. But Your boots are definitely too big. I had a bootfitter do teh same thing to me with 28.5 spk's when I was looking for boots. They were massive and I had extreme heel lift and he kept adding padding and stuff but it did nothing. I ended up with the rampage because it fit perfectly right out of the box with absolutely no adjusting or anything.
May 26 2010 8:32AM
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schmies
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You got suckered. Boots are way too big.

Sell them on EBAY and get some new ones. See the sticky thread about buying boots.

DO NOT go in with a specific boot in mind. Buy what FITS your foot. You will be very happy.
May 26 2010 11:35AM
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J.DUKE
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i wear an 11 shoe and a 27.5 ski boot
May 26 2010 3:33PM
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sports*creel
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this... exactly.
May 26 2010 3:46PM
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BerGNARdo
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yeah me too. most my friends boots are at least a size smaller than their shoe size. one wears a  size 12.5 and wears a 27.5 race boot. if your boots are to small they might be a little uncomfortable but they shouldnt hurt and they will perform well. where as boots that are to big will be comfortable until you ride them, but then not perform and probably end up really hurting your feet. definitely sell your boots and get smaller ones.
May 26 2010 3:53PM
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cocopop
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come on now do you think i went in wanting those boots. of coarse not ... those are what fit me best according to the bootfitter, i did everything the thread says.

if i went in with boots in mind id at least choose full tilts  :)

The shop has a guareentee to fit boots so they will have to give me new ones free , ill just speak to the manager if it continues to be a problem, but i wanted an opinion from others

the base of the boot says 28.5 and 29.0 , so what size is that if there is no 28.5 - 29.0

when i put my foot no the boot mesauring device i get a 27.5 , my right foot is probably 27.4 and my left is about 27.3, so 27.5 seems closest.

Every other bootffitter in the store says they are too big , they guy who fit me is there most experienced and senior fitter, it seems like the others dont want to do against what he says.

May 26 2010 6:02PM
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Sklar
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i would talk to the manager about getting you some new boots, they guarantee the fit so you should get boots that fit

I wear a 10.5 shoe and i'm in a 25 shell so its all over the map, but your boots seem like they are too big for you
May 26 2010 6:12PM
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Doug.
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I wear an 11 shoe and a 27 boot. And i think my boots are too big.
May 26 2010 7:03PM
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NWPA
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if you tried a FT on you would have fallen in love
May 26 2010 7:20PM
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charmander
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i wear 10.5-11

im in 27.5 race boots, theyre snug, but awesome.
May 26 2010 7:33PM
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Kogu
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Same story. Only my boots were 30$ rental boots.. so my heel staying down obviously wasn't my objective.. def get some new boots though. That's unacceptable (don't worry I had no idea til someone told me)
May 26 2010 10:34PM
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No_Dub
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I wear a solid 11 shoe but I can't afford new boots so I use a pair ofsuper packed out 27.5 norticas. Hella gangster because they are four buckle boots and on the left, I have two and the right I have three.
May 26 2010 11:19PM
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cocopop
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Well i went down to the shop tonight and i think he must have chatted with all the other bootfitters coz he had me trying on 27-27.5 boots and they felt heaps better in terms of length

I had the heel lift problem in most boots though, even the correct length boots, coz i have a tiny heel.

I basicallly have to go for narrow boots to accomdate the heel and get mega stretching done on the toebox.

Every boot with a wide toebox still needing stretching but my heel was always loose.

The best fitting boot that held my heel down turned out to be the Ace of Spades Boot.

Anyone have these, whats your opinion on them , like ? dislike ?

May 27 2010 5:31AM
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cocopop
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That could be the new style. have less buckles for extra steeze.... hahaha

May 27 2010 5:33AM
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LC.
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Shoe size has no relevance to your ski boot size. Most guys wear their shoes way too big anyway. When I was 16 I wore a 12 shoe but now I wear a 9.5 which is tight but good. My feet haven't shrunk, I just used to wear them way too big. So don't pay attention to anyone saying "I wear a X shoe and X boot" because you don't know if their shoe size or boot size is correct for their foot.

That Atomic boot does the half size split differently to everything else, so 28.5/29.0 is right.

Sell your boots on eBay and go to a better shop.
May 27 2010 5:34AM
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LC.
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Should have been US 12 shoe at age 16, US 10.5 now.
May 27 2010 5:35AM
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leahey
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Size down to a 28 or 29, depending on boot. But go to a shop and get your foot fitted.
May 27 2010 7:44AM
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No_Dub
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Hahaha yeah I wish. The existing buckles don't even match either some are original and some are from a pair of norticas my Dad had a whlie back.
May 27 2010 4:07PM
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Big_Spence
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i wear a 12 street shoe and i wear a 27.5 (317 bsl)
May 27 2010 4:30PM
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iRise
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First of all, the Ace of Spade is an awesome boot for the price and Nordica makes quality product. Second when you're getting fitted make sure the fitter shell sizes you (takes out the liner and checks your foot length inside the shell) when your toes are touching the end of the shell, you want NO more than an inch, this accomadates for the liner, so just watch when the fitter is checking that. Also, intuition liners can help with skinnier heels, as they heat form, the foam expands and will lock your ankles in tighter.
Jun 1 2010 3:02PM
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skibootguy
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Hey there,

Ultimately YOUR foot is in the boot, and any decent boot fitter will tell you that. With that said it always easier from a fitter's stand point to make a boot a bit bigger. Idealy ther should be a gap behind the heel of approx 3/4 - 1 in to accomodate for the liner. That is a ballpark for length.

Liners, liners, liners...... You can stick with the stock liner, but with a wide foot and narrow heel, I would look into a custom. Well worth the cost and you can put them into your next pair down the road.

Be honest with the fitter, if you rip, tell them. That helps get the flex in the ballpark. You are the customer and in control. The fitters goal is to get your boot to fit correctly and get you stoked. Ask questions about his/her experience and ability. They should readily answer.

I hope this helps. Happy turns!!!!

Jun 1 2010 3:02PM
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