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Armanzoid
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Scientists in the US have succeeded in developing the first synthetic living cell.

Article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10132762.stm


Flush your bibles folks, seems like the the G-Man ain't all that special after all.
May 20 2010 2:53PM
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leahey
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Just because they produced a synthetic cell doesn't mean God doesn't exist and/or didn't create humans. I'm not saying he did, but it isn't proof.
May 20 2010 3:29PM
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Armanzoid
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Well, he still might, but this sure as hell isn't helping his case. Homeboy needs to start laying down some fire and brimstone on these scientists stepping on his turf.
May 20 2010 3:39PM
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Elmo.
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thats actually pretty sick and thsi is gunna turn to a christian vs atheist forum i feel it
May 20 2010 3:40PM
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theabortionator
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True. I don't believe in anything that I can't prove so, all the ideas on how the earth got started are up in the air for me.
May 20 2010 3:44PM
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TheButterHashira
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This doesn't prove or disprove anything of metaphysical nature. I guess as the OP kind of stated it does make the creation of life, often attributed to god look less impressive. It also hurts the creationist argument that life cannot simply be created by natural processes. 
It is pretty awesome that they were able to make that in a lab. I still really won't be impressed until they can make this.
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May 20 2010 3:46PM
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beezey
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May 20 2010 3:51PM
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ectreeskier11
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venter's a fucking genius, i still remember watching PBS specials on him in high school and being like holy shit!
May 20 2010 3:54PM
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geteducated
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god gave us the knowledge to create a synthetic cell.

moron.
May 20 2010 3:57PM
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theabortionator
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Maybe I read it wrong but they didn't really create life. I think it said they make a synthetic dna code and put it into a host cell. So yes the dna code worked, and thats a huge leap, but they still had to put it in a host cell. They didn't just go poof and create it.
May 20 2010 4:09PM
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BrewskiJr
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lol. That has no correlation to God. Technology has improved and they're able to produce a fully functioning cell. That has no relevance to the idea that God doesn't exist or shtuff of that nature.
May 20 2010 4:09PM
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SCOO-WOOP
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Man...why does everyone get in a hussy over whether god exists or not? Its stupid. 
May 20 2010 4:15PM
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JahJahBinks
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Same reason anyone gets in a "hussy" over anything else.
May 20 2010 4:21PM
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Tasche
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The only logical answer is that one of the scientists is Jesus.

Fucking religion blows my mind.
May 20 2010 4:41PM
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feihlination
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inb4 religious shitstorm for 2-4 pages before it actually leads to the deletion of this thread because some butthurt christian/creationist is "personally offended"


normally i would participate, but....


oh fuck it, all the "arguments" creationists ever had where rough and wrong interpretations of some scientific evidences or the total negligence of other scientifically proven facts.

so since this development either makes god less godly or humans more godly. in either case, i dont see why somebody needs the bible to explain geological/biological phenomenons.


and now to the aforementioned shitstorm...
May 20 2010 4:57PM
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dr.delicious
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God shalt smite down all of you sinful scientists for not believing in him! You should believe everything the bible tells you, completely blindly and without question.
Thats the way true Christians do it!

They must do it that way because only braindead people would still believe in it if they actually read the bible.
May 20 2010 5:07PM
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Ducky.
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How does this disprove God?
May 20 2010 5:08PM
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Ducky.
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lol +k
May 20 2010 5:09PM
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Alex_G
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took him long enough
May 20 2010 5:15PM
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.travis.
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You see, this is why arguments regarding religion fucking suck. People that don't believe in God resort to being cunts instead of just stating their opinion in a mature manner. Like, I've never seen a creationist say something like "you're all fucking retarded to not believe in the bible". You can get your point across without being a complete douche. Or maybe you can't.

And I find it pretty funny when people say shit like people who believe in God are brain dead...  you're no more correct in any of your assumptions than someone who is religious so get over yourself.


May 20 2010 5:22PM
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dr.delicious
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sorry, didn't mean to offend, i got a bit hot headed there at the end.
May 20 2010 5:25PM
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Tasche
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Why don't you go stone to death some little kids, like the bible says.
May 20 2010 5:25PM
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.travis.
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Haha I didn't mean to call you out specifically, that's just how it usually goes. 
May 20 2010 5:27PM
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Abc567def
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I CAN FEEL JESUS'S SALVATION ALL OVER MY FACE!!!!
May 20 2010 5:32PM
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SCOO-WOOP
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Jesus sprayed his salvation all over my chest.

ALSO,

People should be a little more mature about this issue, on BOTH sides of the spectrum. Atheists/Nonbelievers should respect religious people's views on god, just as religious people should respect Atheists/Nonbelievers opinions with respect. Maturity is a key factor in all these shitstorms. So to both sides, please, if your views on matters of religion aren't respectful, keep them to yourselves. It just makes trouble.   Yeesh. What am I, french or something?
May 20 2010 11:39PM
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I.killCommies
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i dont believe God created life, there could be a God though, it would be cool for there to be one.
May 20 2010 11:44PM
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jeremy.g
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oh baby
May 20 2010 11:48PM
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Thenowhereman42
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This is why I hate science, idiots are playing God. Man should never play God, we don't have the moral fortitude for it.
May 20 2010 11:49PM
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Jwalk
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PEOPLE OF NS STOP BEFORE THIS TURNS INTO A HUGE RELIGIOUS SHIT STORM THREAD, STOP TRYING TO ARGUE WHOS RIGHT!
May 20 2010 11:54PM
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theabortionator
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I'm god
May 20 2010 11:56PM
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twin-tip-hero
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for once wondering on NS while i am supposed to be doing an essay has paid off!  im doin an essay on frankenstein and if its right for a person to create life.  thank you so much!
May 21 2010 12:12AM
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MADDECENT
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well a religious person would say that its the most important decision you can possibly make, so, yeah its a pretty big deal
May 21 2010 12:19AM
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Balto
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think about what this means for injurys. a marine gets his leg blown off, and they can just give him a new, real one
May 21 2010 12:24AM
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skithebert
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this is pretty interesting actually.

we've been moving genes and small pieces of DNA between species for a long ass time. now they've managed to do it with a whole genome (granted a very small one). an impressive feat though not particularly surprising. this was an inevitability.
May 21 2010 12:34AM
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ChillTeenDad420
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not quite making artificial life, they made the artificial genome. thats hella impressive. But i don't think that they could ever develop a living, artificial being larger than a few cells
May 21 2010 12:55AM
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Thenowhereman42
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Whatever atheist fag, I'm not even religious.

Doesn't change the fact that science is going too far. I don't even care about God, I've never been to a church in my life (well except European ones purely from an architectural viewpoint), but the world is a mysterious place with a very precariously balanced ecosystem and we don't need a bunch of idiots in lab coats fucking everything up for us even more than they already have. I say leave nature alone.
May 21 2010 3:24AM
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theabortionator
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Being able to put synthetic dna in a cell is a long way from making a human from scratch.
May 21 2010 3:31AM
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Mr.Panda
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What this man said...

And I couldn't care less about "getting into God's territory" to be completely honest. If he is so pissed this is his chance to come out and tell everyone he is real and to stop fucking shit up.
May 21 2010 3:32AM
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doobiebrotha
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ZOMG THE OIL SPILL IS A SIGN FROM GOD!!!!! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!
May 21 2010 3:37AM
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dr.delicious
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Your an idiot.
May 21 2010 3:58AM
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feihlination
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he flooded us once, he could do it again

LOLWUT? fuckin bible
May 21 2010 5:13AM
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feihlination
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actually, hes got a point. when you think about how much nuclear firepower is available right now, idk how often you could extinguish the earth, everything above "once" is too much and all that stuff was invented/discovered by aforementioned "lab guys"
May 21 2010 5:15AM
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dr.delicious
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yeah, but think about all the benefits nuclear power has given us. If global warming was happening due to coal/gas power stations, nuclear power would be one of the prime ways to get 'clean' power.
Whats to say that this new discovery won't do the same for the world.
May 21 2010 5:56AM
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TOUCHE
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GOD'S A CUNT






JOKES.
no really he's a nice guy
May 21 2010 6:00AM
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Thenowhereman42
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May 21 2010 6:11AM
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*TURBONERD*
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well duh... this is nsg, it will happen in the first two pages if it even gets that far. that's a sick discovery though
May 21 2010 6:29AM
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Tasche
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I should probably make a new thread because this one sucks.

Last night I watched a Science Channel special on the scientists who created this artificial life form. This is absolutely insane. I was wondering if anyone else saw this and what their thoughts were.
Jun 4 2010 9:54AM
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badexplicit
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Synthetic - man-made: not of natural origin; prepared or made artificially; "man-made fibers"; "synthetic leather"

So im still trying to understand how this disproves Religion. Synthetic Leather is not real leather. Synthetic is not a real natural cell...
Jun 4 2010 10:02AM
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Tasche
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Not really accurate. Synthetic leather is not leather grow on a tree. In that it is 100% genetically cow skin, but grew on a tree. This is a more apt analogy to what they actually did.

They sequenced an entire genetic code using a computer one base pair at a time. Inserted the traits that they wanted the cell to have. Then injected the cell into a living cell, the 100% synthetic DNA (created literally by adding chemical, no biological processes were used in its creation besides yeast to synthesize.) then took over the dna of the cell and transformed it into itself.

This flies in the face of everything humans have believed that life is in some way magical, although it is beautiful, there is nothing magical about life. It is a series of chemical reactions, and we have decoded and created the very basic elements of these reactions. We basically have the instruction booklet for life, we can create anything we want, and as computer power increases and this technology grows up the possibilities are limitless. In the near future imagine a bacteria engineered to destroy all cancer cells, or eat oil spills, or turn plastic into hydrogen energy. In the long terms we could create synthetic meat that grows like a plant, increase the yields of plant 1000%, We could make biological computers or regrow human body parts. literally endless. We are reaching our next Epoch of our evolution, first came tools, then the industrial revolution, then computers, and now this.

THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING.
Jun 4 2010 10:14AM
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Ski_the_east01
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^This.
I knew there was a reason I had you at 10/10
Jun 4 2010 10:16AM
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Ski_the_east01
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hmm damn..didnt see that one coming..

Should have just quoted Tasche's last response
Jun 4 2010 10:17AM
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