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PETITION: KEEP TOBACCO OUT OF SKIING

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smuggs
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After reading a thread in NSG, I'm shocked about people rationalizing that its OK for tobacco to be a part of newschool skiing.

[B]If you want to discuss the topic head here:[/B]

[URL="https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/541552/page/1/"]https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/541552/page/1/[/URL]

[B]If you think tobacco has no part in newschool skiing put your name in this thread you are reading.[/B]

This hopefully will let people step up to the plate, and maybe someone will see this who matters. It was quoted in the other thread that newschoolers.com pretty much invented this sport, so the site has say in it.

Tobacco has nothing to do with skiing. Their money will not help the sport. Anyone who takes thier money should rethink what they are doing.

THIS is taken from GT (general tobacco) 's website:
[B]GT and its employees are fully compliant with the Master Settlement Agreement (MSA), which confirms that we will not direct our marketing strategies toward youth; including the use of cartoons in advertising, outdoor advertising, free samples for minors, and restricting sponsorship of events with an abundant population of youth. In addition, General Tobacco is pleased to comply with all financial provisions set by the MSA in contributing to local, state, and federal foundations directed to the prevention and elimination of underage smoking.[/B]

Older folks usually don't look up to athletes the way young kids do. By sponsoring someone who young kids look up to a (newschool skier), and putting adds in a magazine, which is based around newschool skiing, which IS a sport of [B]ABUNDANT POPULATION OF YOUTH, GT is DIRECTING THEIR MARKETING STRATEGIES TOWARDS YOUTH and thus ARE NOT FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE MASTER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT[/B]
May 19 2010 12:19PM
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FreeBallin
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holy shit I forgot how high it is up there!
Jul 12 2010 8:45AM
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sander_h
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let money flow into our sport. Who cares if it is big tobacco. Just let them support us and put money into the sport.
Jul 12 2010 3:36PM
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smuggs
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sell out with me oh yea! sell out with me tonight! record company gonna give me lotsa money and everything gonna be alright!
Jul 12 2010 4:08PM
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sander_h
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if endorsements are your primary source of income, then a check from big tobacco wouldn't hurt.
Jul 12 2010 4:32PM
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who shoved a stick up your ass?
Jul 12 2010 4:40PM
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BieberHole69
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i noticed Freeskiers demographics was kind of a big issue early on this thread. i don't recall seeing their Media Kit (demographics, circulation, etc) in any of the previous 9 pages so here it is
http://freeskier.com/mediakit/audience/

and having majored in Advertising, i can tell you that companies know how impressionable their advertisements can be - that is why they advertise... unfortunately, media as a whole is a business and will take the highest bidders. that being said, i think a company like Freeskier, knowing that they have the youngest median demographic, should recognize the intentions of a tobacco company and not endorse a harmful product.

S. Tankersley
Jul 12 2010 4:47PM
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FreeBallin
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i am assuming your brand new to the business world(aka the real world)....welcome..its going to be an eye opening experience.


Jul 12 2010 5:09PM
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peyton
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Peyton O'Connor
Jul 12 2010 5:12PM
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the-big-lepowski
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haha, some unenlightened responses to your comment smuggs. Personally, I say you should just go reel big fish.

oh yippee, I just turned 18 and I'm a freeskier, so logically, I'll buy a dozen tins of dip and, say 2 cartons of cigarettes? nothing like the sweet feeling of rebellion wrapped in nicotine
Jul 13 2010 8:48AM
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murphski
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Has anyone considered the fact that no matter how much we complain or no matter how many petitions we create nothing is going to change? Skiing is a business, and as much as all of us consider it a sweet hobby, lifestyle, sport, etc. It is a business. The pros ski because they love it, but they need sponsors to live their lives comfortably. Let's think about most (not all) pro skiers, not many of them have a college education... what are they gonna do when they are 35 and have their ACL's replaced 7 times? They're gonna need money to live off of and support themselves. So If they are offered a big check to put the word SNUS on their left heel binding, they're gonna do it. It's up to parents to teach their children that tobacco is bad. enough said.

I would also like to point out that Major League Baseball players have been dipping on NATIONAL TELEVISION for over 50 years. MLB players have a lot more little kids idolizing them than peter olenick. They also make a lot more money. And guess what, mom and dad don't like seeing Miguel cabrera or David ortiz with huge lippers in but its not gonna change anything. I mean did anyone even watch the homerun derby last night? David ORtiz had a huge chaw in while he was holding his own son in his lap! No one shit a brick about it.

If you are a young person and you have a problem with tobacco call your government. If you are a parent and you have a problem with your kids doing it, discipline them.

I know I'm gonna get hated on hard for this post but i guess that's why I only post once a year now.

peace NS
Jul 13 2010 3:52PM
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smuggs
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now tell me newschoolers.com hasnt changed a bit since the chads gap thread?
Jul 13 2010 4:02PM
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smuggs
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do you guys think that there is a massive 10 page shit show going on in skiings largest collection of people and peter olenick or freeskier hasn't heard about it ? they dont chime in because their souls know they are wrong but their wallets dont care.
Jul 13 2010 4:09PM
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FreeBallin
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you live in La la land man....you believe "the average age of ns is 22" then NS shouldnt be apart of this discussion?

Are you really that stupid that you believe that kids are soooooooo dumb....that they arent smart enough to change there age a bit when they sign up? And that everyone one is HONEST when they will out an age part of an online sign up form?

Fuck just look at all the edits that have been popping up on 14 and under kids just shredding it.....

so how about you answer my questions instead of avoid it?


Jul 13 2010 6:29PM
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FreeBallin
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nope because everyone is tearing you a new asshole about it...

so you have to make stupid shit show posts telling fake little storys about this little girl you know

Way to tell others(olenick) how there "souls " truly feel about it...your digging for dirt man..give it up

you havent embarassed yourself enough yet?




Jul 13 2010 6:33PM
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smuggs
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smuggs has no shame.

your questions dont relate to this thread or have already been answered. thanks for playing.
Jul 13 2010 8:23PM
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bob_dole
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and did you see adds all over the stadium and bleacherrs for snuss/dip whatever? .. no. thats because there arent any. those people have the right sense of mind not to advertise in that area. thats what this thing is about, the places where tobacco is advertised, not the use of it.
Jul 13 2010 9:04PM
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hov123
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agree a hundred percent!! goood idea for a petition
Jul 13 2010 9:38PM
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smuggs
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yo mama wears army boots!
Jul 13 2010 10:34PM
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FreeBallin
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your like a 12 year old...when you have no real answer...you resort to childish comments such as "thanks for playing"

you cant even back your own petition when questioned hahahahaha





Jul 13 2010 10:52PM
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smuggs
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smuggy ti-ti from this thread.
Jul 13 2010 11:01PM
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Commonwealth
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Immaturity, ignorance, selfishness, morons, blah blah blah
Jul 13 2010 11:14PM
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VertBoi3000
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hey, hey, hey
smoke weed everyday
Jul 17 2010 5:44AM
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jack.whelan
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Jul 17 2010 3:25PM
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FreeBallin
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no spliffs though! youll influence little kids into tobacco!!!! hahahaha
Jul 17 2010 4:38PM
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Jennings
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SPORTS ILLUSTRATED?
Jul 17 2010 6:07PM
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inactive
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marb reds are 7 in maine, or 8 if you go to a place that doesnt card

where do you live?
Jul 17 2010 8:42PM
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jason...
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No Marlboro's or Camel's in British Columbia. $10.50 for a pack of king size Belmonts at my local gas station.
Jul 17 2010 9:07PM
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inactive
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i'm sorry to here that. than what do your cowboys smoke?
Jul 17 2010 11:29PM
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TOUCHE
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i belive the second post owned the fuck out of this thread.
Jul 18 2010 12:54AM
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smuggs
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yea you are right, i cant believe i thought otherwise. problem solved folks. unless we want to go for 20 pages.
Jul 18 2010 11:09AM
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Sheets-mmm
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you speak the truth
Jul 18 2010 12:27PM
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smuggs
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yo op you are a fuckin tard. tobacco doesnt hurt nobody. thats like saying guns kill people. ya douche.
Jun 3 2011 1:42PM
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Doug.
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Hahaha
Jun 3 2011 2:38PM
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skiP.E.I.
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W Baker
Jun 3 2011 8:54PM
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t_rob
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Still waiting for a rebuttal. Why aren't/didn't people argue this?
Jun 3 2011 9:59PM
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.spaghetticat.
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JD S.
Jun 3 2011 10:05PM
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.peter
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umm Hello, what ski "athlete," is sponsored by tobacco?

skiing is not just for kids, it's for everyone. You shouldn't care, and shouldn't spread hate and discrimination against people for the choices they make. Some people smoke, some people don't. Kid's know it's bad, still some kids will smoke, you can't be their parents, and pro-skiers shouldn't be expected to be either. so fuck off.
Jun 3 2011 10:31PM
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.peter
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you're such a liberal pussy, it's not like tom wallisch is handing out free samples to every 12 year old in the parking lot.
Jun 3 2011 10:34PM
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Skiingsnow
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this thread was made for people to sign if they dont support the idea of Tabacco adds in freeskier magazine ye? if thats the case then balto is a dick
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Jun 3 2011 10:50PM
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DGski
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F. MacGillivray
Jun 3 2011 10:52PM
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Meases_Pieces
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in response to people saying that smoking doesnt effect non smokers.

"An additional $96.7 billion is spent on public and private health care combined, according to the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, and each American household spends $630 a year in federal and state taxes due to smoking."

your poor lifestyle choices are thrust upon the rest of us and is hurting our wallets. i dont care what you do go jump off a bridge, play video games all day, really i dont care. But once your actions become a societal issue and hurt me of course im going to be angry
Jun 3 2011 11:23PM
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JahJahBinks
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NOW WHO HERE DOESN'T LIKE A NICE PLUG EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE
Jun 4 2011 12:31AM
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BIGben*
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Same here. (Well not the name, but you get it)
Jun 4 2011 8:36AM
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SirFryanator
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yes, yes it is. it's exactly like that. you're criticizing us for having no soul, but us soul-less are criticizing you for having too much! AHA
Jun 4 2011 10:56AM
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TNORTS
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Agree

Taylor Norton
Jun 4 2011 11:06AM
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Juice.Doctor
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lol yo truth
Jun 4 2011 11:08AM
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erica
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E. AARONS
Jun 4 2011 11:29AM
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Jahrassicpark
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I understand your concern, but in all honesty tobacco companies don't give a fuck they just want money
Jun 5 2011 3:43AM
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skiingute
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The second hand smoke that refers to is more like mom and pop smoking in the house raising kids or having a family member consitently smoking around a person. Not you going to the hill 40-50? times a year and maybe being next to one cigarette smoker every couple times you go. The random smoker smoking in an outdoor environment will do little to nothing to your health.

Bottom line is smoking on the mountain does little to anyone's health. It could bumb your time out having to sit in someones cloud of smoke or have them throw butt's on the snow, both instances are them being a doucher. Smokers can be inconsiderate and hurt people's time but it's not effecting your health so dont bitch about that, you're just being dumb.

Jun 5 2011 4:15AM
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skiingute
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and health care goes up because of obesity and other reasons too, not just smoking. Blaming smoking for you having to spend more money is just plain wrong.
Jun 5 2011 4:18AM
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