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Style+eeze
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So NS, I know by now you're thinking, "why another stupid thread asking where to go to college?" But I really have no idea what to do. Before you call me out, i have read just about every thread on here about college, in addition to spending a lot of time thinking using independent resources.

I am currently living in Seattle, Washington and go to Garfield High School. I seem to be interested in economics and/or business, but I'm not really sure yet, I'm open to anything (except pre-med). I am a good student, I have a 3.9, study a lot, hopefully will do well on the SATs (June 5th!). So, I am really just asking for your help. My parents are getting on me about college, and where I want to go, etc. My brother is going to Berkeley next year and is majoring in Computer Science.

I would like to narrow down colleges so that there's at least a place to ski close, it doesn't have to be amazing. So far, I plan to rule out Colorado (not strong enough academics, disagree with me all you want). I don't especially want to go to UW (Washington) because I can see the campus from my house, but it's most definitely a viable option.

Really I would just like you to give me a little jumpstart, if you will... That would be extremely appreciated. Learning from others and their decisions (whether good or bad will help so much).

For those that care, I will give karma for good answers and those that deserve it.

Thanks a ton,
Peter
Apr 29 2010 1:20AM
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shr@gler
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An Arts Degree is clearly the only way you will achieve your goals and ski all the time!

Plus you can shit on a stick and the artsy fucks will love you!! You cant lose!

Apr 29 2010 1:23AM
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.catierob
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university of vermont. pretty good business school. cool town. variety of people. fun parties except tuition blows, but since you got a good gpa you probs will get money they also love out of staters, not from new england. and stowe is only like forty minutes away. check it out.
Apr 29 2010 1:26AM
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family_vacation
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same situation as I'll be in next year.

I'm looking at UBC right now. It seems like a really cool place. Of course I'll apply to UW as well, and Harvard will be on the list. I'm curious to see what people say. I really don't have a clue about where I want to go, but we do come from almost identical educational backgrounds and whatnot.
Apr 29 2010 1:27AM
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k2yeags
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Apr 29 2010 1:28AM
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blatt
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Well you got a really good gpa. And that's mjority of what colleges look at. Do you play sports? Extracurriculars? Those would help to. For in state, maybe try UW. Supposed to be a rigorous school. Idk about any skiing close by. If you want to pay a bit more and go out of state, Colorado college most def if you want to have slopes close to your campus (located in Colorado springs). It's a private school and I'm not sure if it's liberal arts or not, but a bachelors from there means a lot. These are just some of my ideas and if you wanna get a better look into colleges check out world book college rankings (just google it)
Apr 29 2010 1:29AM
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EvanA02
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The Leeds School of Business is a college of the University of Colorado at Boulder in the United States. The enrollment of 3,300 students includes undgraduates, master's candidates, and Ph.D. candidates. The college was started in 1906 when the Board of Regents created the College of Commerce. In 2001, the college was named for Michael Leeds of New York, who committed $35 million to the school.

The Ph.D. entrepreneurship program ranks first in the nation. The undergraduate program ranks 39th in the country and the undergraduate entrepreneurship program ranks 14th in the nation. The MBA program ranks 26th among all public universities. The faculty are ranked 38th in the nation according to the Academy of Management Journal.


Personally I can live with that...

try something on the east coast maybe?

Apr 29 2010 1:31AM
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Bardolph
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University of Oregon. I know over all the school isn't the best, but it's good. The key part of this is the business school is really good. Very highly respected. Skiing isn't too far away and you have a whole range of mountains. Nice campus with nice people. Check it out or pm me if you would like to know more.  
Apr 29 2010 1:32AM
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marsland
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the biggest mistake i made was not applying to the competitive business school at my university out of high school, where i most likely would have made it in.  i came in undecided and slacked and couldnt get in after that, so i had to pick a new major.  find out what you are interested in and apply to that, but if you not sure undecided is still a legit option.
Apr 29 2010 1:32AM
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-Dan
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Don't go.
Apr 29 2010 1:33AM
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Waffle11
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If you are thinking of going east coast, Cornell is a great school in basically all subjects with a good mountain (for the east coast) just 20 minutes away. Dartmouth is pretty sweet too and has its own mountain.

Both those schools are really hard to get into though. Some other suggestions:

Washington University St. Louis, incredible school, pretty sure there are ski areas near by.

USC, Im going here next year so im bias but this school is unbeatable imo. Also there are a few ski areas you could easily day trip to. You can also go to tahoe on the weekends if you want.

UW would also be a great choice. Like you I probably would have considered it a lot more seriously if I didn't live like 3 blocks away.
Apr 29 2010 1:37AM
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elemeno89
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hey man.  i'm an accounting major at suny geneseo in new york.  and its always nice to meet new kids interested in business.  its a strong major, and buy the time you graduate it'll be a great choice.  here are my tips when i was looking around for schools:

1.) if interested in business look for an AACSB accredited school.  The AACSB is the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business, and its accreditation pretty much means that that school has a legit good program in the area of business.  now when i applied there was almost 400 worldwide that have the accreditation, but it has expanded to almost 600.  This is a WORLDWIDE thing, so its pretty cool.  I knew i was going into business so I applied to all accredited schools.  here is the website:

 http://www.aacsb.edu/  (no clicky, cause ns is broken for me)

2.) look into possible careers that you wouldn't mind doing after college. research online to see what up and coming hot jobs there are.  im not tooting my own horn when i say this, but accounting is a solid major.  you can get a job anywhere with the knowledge whether you use the education or not.  for instance i plan on applying to the FBI for fraud investigations.  i know with econ majors, some of them double in political science or international relations and go to law school.  there really isn't much need to economics majors unless you want to do some government work, no matter which level.

3.) dont be afraid to visit and look around and test your options.  make sure you will be happy with where you decide.  you won't know until you visit, and most schools offer overnight options where you live with current students and see what its like to go there.  it may look pretty in pamphlets, but the students may suck, teachers horrible, and education stingy. 

whatever you do don't get stressed.  although it is an important decision, make it fun, look at the positives, and remember, the next four years, or two years, or maybe eight depending on what you decide will be an awesome time that youll never forget.  well, actually, scratch that last part, there will be some stuff that you forget.  haha.
Apr 29 2010 1:45AM
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Style+eeze
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Bump!

Thanks for all of the responses so far. I have brought them all into consideration except for art (sorry, i just suck at art) and the option of not going to college... that would be a bad choice.

Anyone else??
Apr 29 2010 7:02PM
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sugarloaf
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you gotta decide if you want a big state school, or a (possibly smaller) private school. the schools that have been suggested (except cornell) are state schools, where you'll be a number to them. I go to a small liberal arts school in VT, but am currently at a big university in NZ. The differences are astonishing. I litterly am a number here. I have to show my student ID to get my papers back. At home, the profs all know me by name and will personally make time to talk to me if I have any sort of problem. You're gonna have a hard time finding that personal commitment at a bigger state school, where the profs are trying to do their own research.

...just a very general comment and something to think about. state schools are cool, I almost went to one. they're just not for everyone.

Apr 29 2010 7:08PM
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Style+eeze
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yeah, i'm definitely bringing that into consideration.

although i like almost all aspects about both big and small schools, i really don't even know what to pick!

currently i'm going to leave the size of the school out of this. i really don't care (for the most part) and would probably go to either.
Apr 29 2010 7:12PM
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Gnartron.
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He couldn't into any of the colleges you just mentioned.

Also, WashU doesn't have any skiing whatsoever nearby

Apr 29 2010 7:16PM
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Gnartron.
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School of Mines in Golden, Colorado.  It's the best school in Colorado and  It's closer to Summit County than CU or DU. 
Apr 29 2010 7:21PM
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Style+eeze
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well yeah. i have some friends who are extremely qualified who didn't make the cut at any of the ivy's this year. although they should have gotten in, they didn't.

as of now, rule out the ivy league schools for me.
Apr 29 2010 7:21PM
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dwigt
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colorado college is definitely the best college in CO
Apr 29 2010 7:23PM
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Style+eeze
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yeah, and far away from vail/breck/key/beaver creek. colorado springs is deeeeeep.

in addition, i have already ruled out CO. thanks though
Apr 29 2010 7:24PM
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Schoening
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UW!!!
Apr 29 2010 7:25PM
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Style+eeze
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haha, i know! i would get to ski with you and the UW guys... and stick around here, but sticking around here isn't so hot on my priority list.

no matter how much i love seattle (easily one of my favorite cities) i am not yet sure about staying here vs. going away...

thanks for the input though!
Apr 29 2010 7:27PM
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Gnartron.
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Just because you go there, doesn't make it the best.

The top 5 best colorado colleges go in this order: School of Mines, CU, DU, CSU, Metro State.  Follow this link for proof: http://diplomaguide.com/articles/Top_Colorado_Colleges_and_Universities.html

School of Mines has an average admission GPA of 4.12, so It'll be a stretch for you to get in, however.

Apr 29 2010 7:35PM
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_CC_
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dont rule out Colorado for academic reasons, im not too bright and im CSU bound in fall.
Apr 29 2010 7:37PM
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Gnartron.
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You just proved the wrong point.

Apr 29 2010 7:41PM
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d.spong
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uw! but if your trying to get away from seattle for a little bit go to Cal with your brother. close to lake tahoe...

Apr 29 2010 7:43PM
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_CC_
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oh ha, shit. thats what i get for skimming that post.
Apr 29 2010 7:46PM
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Style+eeze
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yeah, for sure. now that i think about it, i might be more interested in a smallER school, but a bigger school i would still keep in mind of course.

CC_steeze, really?

derek, i definitely know what you mean, UW sounds super enticing, but not at the same time, you know?
Apr 29 2010 7:46PM
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blonde moment sorry...
who wants sandwiches?! im going back to kitchen now...
Apr 29 2010 7:50PM
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.newman.
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with a 3.9 if you can get like 2100 on SATs (i have like a 3.4 and i got a 2050 first try) and ur lookin to ski id go northeast try lookin at middlebury, dartmouth, bowdoin, all solid schools near skiing...
how close do u need to be to skiing?
Apr 29 2010 7:50PM
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BootySpunk.
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What about Montana State?
Apr 29 2010 7:51PM
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Style+eeze
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yeah, i'm shooting for 2100 on the SAT. i've definitely thought about those schools, although to be honest i've never heard of bowdoin...

i'd really like to just be within driving range of skiing. realistically i probably wouldn't be skiing on weekdays, so close enough to make a weekend trip out of it.

and to Azz, i've thought about MSU, but i'm not really sure. it seems cool i guess.
Apr 29 2010 7:54PM
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icon1234
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Not really going to give advice on what college to go to, since for me I have been college bound to the the University my dad teaches at (free tuition ftw!). But if you don't really know what you want to do yet, I highly recommend going in undecided, which is pretty much a liberal arts major. Take a bunch of general courses and at the end of the year you will know what you want to do. I came into college wanting to do something in business. Then around winter I wanted to go into economics. And today, I finally declared my major for next year, biology, and hopefully will go to medical school after that. So essentially, if you were to ask me if I would think I would be a biology major my senior year at high school I would have said not in a million years.

There is a common misconception I find that people think if you go into college undecided, that you are essentially "losing" a year exploring. This however is far from the truth, as long as you take useful classes ex: econ, math, english, etc. Most of these classes are required for most majors, for my biology major I have pretty much finished all my general requirements and now just have to take core classes. So I recommend unless your 100% certain on what you want to do straight out of high school to go into college undecided. As some of these "specific" major classes can be a waste of time if you at some point choose another major.

Good Luck.
Apr 29 2010 7:54PM
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Style+eeze
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wow, that was a great response. that definitely helps me out a lot. i'm pretty interested in business, but i definitely could really go for anything.

thanks so much everyone so far, and i know more people have stuff to say!
Apr 29 2010 7:57PM
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Deletedtoday
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peter go to uw, save moneiez on room!
Apr 29 2010 8:00PM
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Deletedtoday
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i'll take one
Apr 29 2010 8:01PM
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Style+eeze
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i'd love a BLT while i work this quote into my sig...
Apr 29 2010 8:05PM
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_CC_
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well after a response that stupid i should really be making all of NS sandwiches forever. so i better get busy. sorry to clog this thread with my stewpids,
Apr 29 2010 8:07PM
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sugarloaf
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st. michael's in VT (~2,000) and victoria uni of wellington in NZ (~20,000?). I'm quite happy studying here at a big school for a semester, but I don't think I could go here all 4 years. it's reallly hard to focus in a lecture hall with 300 other kids, then go to a tutorial where no one talks because no one cares enough to read the homework and the tutors are a year older than you. I feel like I'm not learning much here, whereas at home I'll personally get called out by my prof if I don't contribute to the class. again, all about personal preference, but you really should take size of school into consideration.

also like someone else said, you don't have to declare right away. take classes that interest you before you're locked into your major. you might find something really cool that you never considered before.

Apr 29 2010 8:07PM
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Style+eeze
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for sure.

now that i'm looking more, USC seems to have a dope business school if that's what i want to pursue. my brother visited and really liked it, like loved it, just it's not quite up to par on computer science, because that's what he's gonna major in.

so usc is looking good.
Apr 29 2010 8:09PM
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An10a_Eng
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colorado's engineering is good, not great but pretty good. outside of the engineering college colorado's academics are pretty awful
Apr 29 2010 8:29PM
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jimmer
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i'd check out UC davis. it's a great school, cool college town feel, and has awesome potential for skiing. it's about 1.5-2 hours to tahoe on a good day, although some people make it quicker. find a bud with a cabin in tahoe, which won't be hard, and you'll get plenty of skiing in at places like sugar bowl, squaw valley, northstar, and alpine. berkeley would be cool too, but it's way farther to the mountains, and i doubt you'd find many other skiers and snowboarders who want to go a lot.

also, university of utah is an option. based on seeing that you think cu isn't strong enough academically, you might feel the same way about u of u. but they have a good business program, and college really is what you make of it. i got into several schools that would be considered "better" than utah because of ranking or prestige, but honestly, there's not really any colleges where you will not get a good education if you put in the work. plus, there's like 7 resorts within 45 minutes of campus. almost forgot, there's the honors program at utah, like at other schools. it can give you the rigor of a more academically challenging university, while still being at an awesome place.

basically, look for a place where you think you would fit in. talk to students, do overnight programs at the colleges. good luck mayn!
Apr 29 2010 8:37PM
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Style+eeze
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this is very true

CC_steeze, i love you.
Apr 29 2010 8:45PM
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jimmer
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usc would be sick. i know some dudes that go there and love it.

and for skiing, even though it's a bit of a drive, you could still have a swell ol time. there's some dudes on NS that go to usc, they have a legit team and throw up edits all the time.
Apr 29 2010 8:49PM
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hoodSlayer
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I go to USC and can say that its an awesome school. The academics are top notch (Marshall Business school is one of the top 10 in the country), the sports teams are great, and theres a ton of opportunities to do cool stuff in southern California. USC also gives really good financial aid if you qualify and for what its worth theres tons of hot girls that go here.
Apr 29 2010 8:56PM
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aquinn
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UNH.. Join a frat and rape some girls... bro
Apr 29 2010 9:08PM
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rach
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my life in a thread. my buddy lars is showing me the UW campus next week, but my parents live in tacoma, and i am not hot about them living under an hour away. so pretty much made up my mind that's not happening. well if colorado isn't prestigous enough for you im betting western wont be either. but its definitely a safe distance from seattle. when I am there, i totally forget I have parents...have you thought about anything in oregon? or u of cali santa barbara? I hear its beautiful and pretty close to bear. if you're willing to live on the east coast, you have a lot of really good choices, but i know I couldn't do it.
Apr 29 2010 9:21PM
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ECB
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I go to SUNY Albany in the East, and we are in the top 10 for business. Mount Snow is the the best close mountain for park. If skiing is your number one priority stay out west. If you can deal with not skiing every day, apply somewhere top notch, completely random, maybe in NYC or overseas or even McGill. Narrow down what you want to do to maybe 5 things, find 3 schools for each thing, so thats 15 schools, and apply to them all. Then see which ones accept you. Then work from there.
Apr 29 2010 9:30PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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I'm going to say virtually the same thing to you that I said to another kid in a similar thread today. If you're going in to business, get an accounting degree and a masters. it's the best business degree you can get. and by best, i mean hardest and thus most valuable. basically any employer will look at your accounting degree like, "Well, if he's smart enough to get through all of that, the he's obviously smart enough to do job X

Shoot for at least a 3.5 in undergrad & try and score as many dope corporate or private firm internships that you can . those contacts are invaluable. and the work experience is worth just as much as your degree.

Rock the 4.0 through grad school. Employers love to see that one on a resume. Hit up the company you interned with and slide your way right in to a 60k/yr job.

Apr 29 2010 9:33PM
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Style+eeze
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woooooord

so this is actually helping so much. anyone else?
Apr 29 2010 10:36PM
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Dylan_
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what about siena ? small school, good for business, close to mt snow and is in albany!
Apr 29 2010 10:39PM
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