ON3P Caylors what you guys think +K

thanks for the help

inb4 major dick riding

Here 4 major dick riding

i like that better then inb4

my hypothesis is proven

it was a joke

loololololol, the joke was inb4 dick riding

what was the joke? i still don't get it...

He's just trying to be funny, but honestly he rides Invaders.  He probably thinks they "kill everything" too.

Can't speak for the Caylor, but my Billy Goats far exceeded my expectations in all categories and perfectly fit my needs for a pow ski.

pretty good skis, worth the 6 months i waited for them, you probably wont find another ski with this much rocker and this fat that's better than the caylor.

you know ON3P is good when people had such a long delay and everyone still loves their skis. i have j-mos so i can't speak for the caylor either, but i love them and want to try the caylors

These so called "dick riders" are just the people that have actually ridden ON3P's  ;)

liking skis is so lame right now

have fun on your invaders...you're not allowed to like them

I have the 181s and am stoked on 'em. 

They really do rail the hell out of groomers, making them an extremely versatile 120mm ski.  Best pow skiing of my life has been done on these sticks.

Here is my review: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2804598#post2804598

As far as dick-riding...welcome to NS.

ON3P 191 Caylor Review

Age: 24
Height: 5'10" on a good day
Weight: 175lbs dripping wet
Style: I like skiing bigger fast more tech lines, as well as jumping off stuff when the opportunity presents itself. That type of thing
Current skis: 191 Caylor (mounted at recommended) w/ sth16, 186 Billy Goat (mounted at recommended) w/ fks185, 174 Czar (mounted 2 up from recommended) w/ sth14, 178 Line Anthems (mounted dead center) w/ px12 jib’s
Other skis I like: Atomic Bent Chetlers
Other skis I do not like: Ep pro, bacon, 4frnt msp, 4frnt eph
First Impression: This is the ski that I’ve been looking for and have just not found until now. Build quality amazing. They are super light for such a large ski. Scott and Rowen knew Hood was going to be getting some snow finally and worked their asses off through the night so I could get them mounted up to ride yesterday. A huge thanks to you guys for making it happen, you made my weekend.

Conditions past two days: About 14in of pow, windblown, trees, ice, chunk and even a few groomers.

First day of riding I honestly didn’t have writing a review in mind and just skied everything that was in front of me. There was no learning curve with these skis at all just clicked in and it felt as if I’d been skiing them for years.

Pow: They killed everything. It didn’t matter if it was at high speed or low speed these things were a blast.

Crud: With the crud that was up there these things blasted straight through effortlessly to say the least. Even with how light these skis feel they didn’t once feel like they were being knocked around.

Trees: I’ll be honest I was kind of worried to take them into tight situations not knowing how they were going to perform, but after a few runs it became very apparent that they did not feel like they were handling like a 191 length ski. When you wanted to get the tails thrown around to make the turn they did just that with ease.

Drops: Nothing to huge because the conditions were less than ideal for anything of any substantial size. Couple 5+ foot drops felt very comfortable. I can’t wait to really push these things if we get the snow for it.
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Groomers: No tip flap or bouncing around of any sort. For a 120 underfoot ski these things after you set the edge you could rail turns. I actually want to have a day of just lapping some nice corduroy.

2nd Day Little more snow overnight

Ended up riding pow all day long, which was nice for a change. Once again blow away by how much fun these things are. They surpassed my every expectation of them. Hand my best run of the year with a big air/drop into the top of heather. Landing on these things was very stable… At this point I was very concerned about the amount of speed I was carrying…. Not a problem in the slightest they love speed, 3 turns later I was standing at the bottom of the canyon almost in a daze of how well these skis perform.

What are the negatives, i'm just hearing reviews with only positives. Every ski has some sort of downfall to them.

My skis can't make milkshakes.

What the fuck is skiing?

Haha this is the best complaint I have ever heard about a pair of skis.

are they caylors more rockered then hellbents?

It's like asking Mahre what the downfall of hellbents is.  He will say "nothing."

Sometimes you just get a ski you really dig.  I'd love something wider, but they wouldn't ski groomers as well.  As a WC all-mountain ski for somebody who spends the majority of the time hunting powder they are awesome.

Ive heard alot of people having to wait long for their skis. Although youll never find a ski on the market with as much rocker and width, they are pow slayers. Hellbent is the only ski i can compare to it

Production delays were really painful this year, not going to happen again. We have Caylors in stock, waiting to be shipped about 30 feet away from where I'm sitting now.

Im trying to decide between these and Wrenagades. I really like the idea of both, but the far back mounting of the wrenagades has me worried that they wouldnt be as good in trees. But I like to drop stuff, and found that my hellbents wheelied out a lot, and were way to soft for me. I flexed some 191 Caylors, and found that they felt pretty similar to hellbents, but i have heard different. I also like the tail rocker and ability to ski/land switch a lot better. What do you guys think?

Wrenegades are very different skis to the Caylors really. I haven't actually skied the Caylors personally, but they are similar to Hellbents which i own, only lighter and more responsive. One thing you should know about bamboo skis is that when you handflex them they feel significantly softer than they do when you're actually skiing on them.

My wrenegades like to go fast, they are the most stable skis i have ever been on. They are good on groomers too. The decimate anything in front of them and are great for cliffs and drops due to giving such good support on landing. The tip rocker is perfect, enough to allow them to sit on top in soft snow, but not reduce running length much, the rocker section is also stiff enough to be driven. They absolutely slay in cut up pow (something you probably know hellbents completely suck at). Basically i view Wrens as a perfect everyday ski since they perform so well in so many different conditions.They are not really a ski that likes to go switch. Sure it can be done, but the Caylor will outperform them here for sure. Wrens will be a lot stiffer than Caylors. Caylors are more of a BC jibby ski that can hold its own all over the mountain. They are much more symmetrical so If you jib around and like to spin and ski switch in pow, would be better.

I guess it comes down to what sort of terrain you ski. I have no problem on my Wrens in powder, but caylors have much greater rocker and surface area. If you liked the feel of your Hellbents but want something a bit stiffer and more versatile, Caylors would be great. If you want to get into more big mtn terrain, the Wren would be perfect.

Caylors are the liveliest rockered ski out there, and likely the best made. They are... bouncy. Other rockered skis I've ridden have felt kind of damp, which is some people's preference but I like the spring these have much better. Learning to ski switch on them was surprisingly easy, too. I don't ride anything but my Caylors now.

are they possible to butter if you mounted them closer to center?

Ya man, they especially slay the ice and sometimes those one inch pow dumps

so im not even sure if i want a powder ski, mainly because i live in PA and have like two, 1+ foot "dumps" a year haha. but i know a bunch of guys that do have pow sticks and it looks like it makes the experience of a pow day so much better than riding around on a typical park ski.

so, if i do get one, i either will get the bentchetlers or the caylors. i just want something that i can can just cruise in 1-2 ft of fresh, chomped up, little drops, groomers, and park jumps. so pretty much which is the better pow jib ski that is also versatile?

thanks for the help

I'm interested in getting the cease and desist but haven't really heard anything about them. so if anyone has skied on these could you let me know how you liked them.

Got to ride them in deep steep pow and the resulting tracked out crud after we barnstormed the area the whole day.

They feel a lot like the 191 Caylor. Haha, I know. But really, pretty close, which really threw me. Caylor feels softer by a bit, and more bouncy in turns, more playful. I was riding the same terrain on both skis, and I felt more at home on the Caylor, but only just. Cease and Desists feel really, really... good. More turny than I though they would be, and that tip just goes over everything. Even though they can make it in tight trees, they're really at home in open areas and for ripping at high speed. Caylors want to hang around and play a little bit, C+D's want to take the gnarliest line at the highest possible speed. That being said, the versatility of both of these skis really impressed me, they both have great pop and life to em and can get me through crud and variable conditions better than any of my previous skis.

Yeah, so its a biased review, since I base ground and finished every pair we made this year... but still, PM me if you wanna know more.

Anyone want to share with me why Thomas didn't post in this thread yet?

dead on tho, the C&D LOVE big open areas or steep chutes where they can go straight and fast

The C&D is for those who know skiing switch is gay, and want a ski that can kill babies, kittens, and other small innocent animals, because it's fucking awesome.
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