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Flipping in b/s/t

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debrickshaw
Posts: 1957 - Karma: 68
I'm getting pretty sick of kid's trying to flip "rare" stuff for profit in b/s/t. NS b/s/t used to be awesome because kids hook you up with their old stuff for sick deals, and they'd get some good cash out of it.

I think we should make a strict no flipping rule, I'm pretty sure there used to be one. if you wanna sell something you think is rare throw that shit on ebay and tell people on NS about it.

some examples of kids trying to rip people off:

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/533574/

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/534086/

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/534043/

Examples of NOT being a raging twat:

https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/534025/
Apr 13 2010 1:05PM
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heFF
Posts: 5786 - Karma: 4,456
get over it man...people like money...and that will most likely never change...if you don't like the prices...find something else..no body wants to here you complain about something that's inevitably going to happen over and over again
Apr 13 2010 2:29PM
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miroz
Posts: 10333 - Karma: 3,945

I agree.

The shit is so whack there - the things that are expected and are said are absolutely outrageous.  I used to be a B/S/T whore; I spent probably 95% of my NS time there.  Now I spend next to none.

Its true that the mentality is gone, but NS itself has changed.  Its no longer a tight knit community and we can't change that.  Hell, I can't even claim to be part of the tight knit community - I'm member 90k or something.

Along with that expansion went the mentality.  I think, unfortunately, that we on NS rely too heavily on the benevolance of our fellow skiers to hook us up - now that NS has expanded to encompass more people, the balance has shifted.  I think that it is the new mentality that is "normal" - that people want to profit/get the most for what they have.  It is, in my opinion, the old mentality that was out of the ordinary.  It was special, that's what it was.

Unfortunately I think there have been maybe 30 bagillion threads on this - people know whats up, people know what's changed, and people know that sadly nothing will change it back to the way it was, aside from booting thousands of members from the site.  A changing demographic is a fact of life.  It works the same way in countries too - if politics change, so be it.  You can either sit back and complain about the old days, like crusty, old-dog Soviets, or you can move on.  It happens.

If NS can no longer be what it used to, then I guess we're outta luck.  You'll have to find somewhere else to get a hookup, although I can safely say that they're are still gems that pop up in B/S/T...

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/532955/

(^that deal is nuts!)

Apr 13 2010 3:00PM
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GratefulDead
Posts: 3554 - Karma: 84
Yeah last year even the b/s/t was a much better place.
It was 100x less cluttered and more trustable.
Apr 13 2010 3:24PM
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leahey
Posts: 2548 - Karma: 32
Jiberish is about $15-$20 over priced, and because it is rare, it is easily flippable.
Apr 13 2010 7:50PM
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jason...
Posts: 9006 - Karma: 780
Do you like money?
Apr 13 2010 9:18PM
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B-runge
Posts: 16558 - Karma: 361
TGR, GEAR SWAP.

what bst needs to be, /thread.
Apr 13 2010 9:23PM
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MacMahoooon
Posts: 9009 - Karma: 3,305
I have to agree that I would love to see the BST return to a forum where members truly are there to hook up our community with awesome deals. A place with cheap gear, 100% success rate transactions and no scammers. The focus has changed somewhat over the years, with things now being more about selling everything every year in hopes of getting next years latest and greatest, but that is not to say that there are not good people and good deals to be had. You picked out 4 threads out of the Hundreds of currently active sales, and as usual the bad draws focus from the good.

We are currently discussing what we plan to do with the BST, but don't expect any quick drastic changes. As for what goes in there, we have left that up to you guys to somewhat self moderate. The flippers can't flip if noone wants to pay their prices, and scammers can't scam if people call them out for what they are. We can't moderate every sale thread to ensure it is legit and fits all of the criteria of a proper sale if it stays as a forum, and we will not begin policing to say what is a fair price for anything.

We are open to suggestions on how to make this work for everyone, but considering the number of threads and sales happening, it is obviously working for someone
Apr 14 2010 10:45AM
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Spinoza
Posts: 12763 - Karma: 3,846
but i think the point he is trying to make is that this is supposed to be a COMMUNITY.  Its not some outlet for business and profit. The BST should be for selling your old stuff that you no longer use, not for selling a brand new jiberish sweater that you bought just so you could flip it and make some cash.
Apr 14 2010 6:18PM
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B-runge
Posts: 16558 - Karma: 361
doesnt matter^
it should be skiers hooking skiers up....
Apr 14 2010 6:30PM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
this. i will shit on any thread thats flipping. i think weve all witnessed that. hahaha
Apr 14 2010 8:19PM
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B-runge
Posts: 16558 - Karma: 361
alls i can say is you suck, you dont understand, and bst should be like gear swap, where skiers hook skiers up, even though they arent exactly a rare breed there either....
Apr 14 2010 8:23PM
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shredables
Posts: 647 - Karma: 19
buyers market. however, sellers are trying to make it a sellers market
Apr 14 2010 9:22PM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,144
Flipping technically isn't allowed. So yeah, people talking about how it's okay to make a profit, of course it is. It just isn't okay here, unless you are an advertising partner. This is not a free ebay service. Used to be we'd just ban people for flipping gear, but the position we've been taking for a while now is that we have no role to play in buying and selling that goes on between the members, that's between you guys. It's good to see the community enforcing these kinds of standards though.
Apr 15 2010 1:41PM
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MANDER
Posts: 4017 - Karma: 2,038
ya man totally agree. selling jiberish stickers that you most likely paid 0-5 dollars for $13 is totally cool.

for those who havent seen the thread: https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/535483/page/2/

it defiantly think flipping is not cool, but why do people try to put out such a strong opinion when they do it their selves? seems abit strange. probably so no one drops your beloved karma.
Apr 15 2010 6:25PM
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B-runge
Posts: 16558 - Karma: 361
i dont care about my karma
or sell jiberish stickers for 13 dollars...
Apr 15 2010 7:24PM
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MANDER
Posts: 4017 - Karma: 2,038
nevermind, he told me he doesnt sell the jiberish stickers.

sorry for the false callout. my fault.
Apr 15 2010 8:12PM
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snowking249
Posts: 1452 - Karma: 34
i agree 110% with this. i think that everyone in bst should be there to give/get deals. whenever i sell anything i try to price it reasonably for what it is, i can honestly say i have never made a profit on anything iv sold, for example, awhile ago i sold this kid some pants for 25 bucks and i made him super stoked and i felt good about it.
Apr 15 2010 9:59PM
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Mr.LemonPie
Posts: 4100 - Karma: 1,625
maybe there should be a cult that is more exclusive, and have to be known as someone with good prices to get in, don't even let people in who are just looking to buy and never sell at a good price(I wouldn't get in....I buy all the time, hardly ever sell....)
Apr 16 2010 2:13AM
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B-runge
Posts: 16558 - Karma: 361
thats kinda a good idea^
but it would probably die
Apr 16 2010 9:08AM
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Big_Spence
Posts: 16177 - Karma: 4,352
flipping is always going to be there. if kids are willing to buy shit for more than retail, let them. they're only screwing themselves.

if you want to get rid of a problem in b/s/t, let's stop all the stupid fucking threads where kids are trying to sell their useless shit.
b/s/t is where people should be selling their ski-related stuff, not things that didn't sell at their most recent yard sale.
Apr 16 2010 4:19PM
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Chompo.
Posts: 4952 - Karma: 88
i agree with you, but if there prices are to high than people wont buy them and if there rare pieces then maybe kids will go for it. Its all supply and demand
Apr 16 2010 10:31PM
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Funnel
Posts: 7816 - Karma: 1,534
Flipping does annoy me, but it's the scamming that drives me crazy. I've been scammed and it fucking sucks, but what can I say/do? All I can really do is hope that karma comes back and bites that immature fuck right in the ass. I too have pretty much stopped with the BST. All I do is sell stuff on there, but I am done being a buyer on there. Mainly because I can find something brand new from a legit site, like Backcountry, for basically a few bucks more. Too bad kids haven't realized that if no one offered high prices, kids might stop flipping.
Apr 17 2010 12:37AM
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Crack.
Posts: 6020 - Karma: 84
exactly how I feel. get over it people.. there's still deals out there. the communities getting bigger.. you're going to have to search for deals now not a big deal
Apr 19 2010 3:09PM
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Lemuel
Posts: 14504 - Karma: 10,746
This is the way I see it.  If the seller isn't asking for more than they bought it, then I don't see it as flipping.  Everyone knows Jiberish is going to sell for more than it was purchased for.  And half the time kids are starting their prices low, but so many people bid on it that the price goes way over the original value.  People who purposely flip shit is not cool though.
Apr 19 2010 5:15PM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
its one thing when it gets bid up. i wouldnt do it that way, but whatever.


im talking about kids who go "i have this xxxl level 1 crew, i just want to see what i can get for it" aka, i just want to get at least twice what i paid.
Apr 19 2010 8:09PM
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Willard
Posts: 5117 - Karma: 429
I know Andrew, he is a hard working guy he wasnt just flipping that vest. Infact he loves it suprised he put it on here.
Apr 19 2010 10:34PM
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SweatyBallShack
Posts: 2857 - Karma: 58
A poster is going for 60 right now
Apr 20 2010 2:15AM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
I have faith in the free market.

if you feel its a rip off, don't fucking buy it. Its really not that hard.

Don't blame the flipper, blame the dumb-fuck who paid for it. The seller never determines the price. The buyers do.

If people were not buying stuff that is flipped, then people would stop flipping it.

If your too week to resist paying too much for something, then you probably shouldn't be trusted with money in the first place.

Get over it. The world does not exist to hook you the fuck up.
Apr 20 2010 3:38PM
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SweatyBallShack
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Apr 20 2010 4:07PM
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