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Why is two mounts the limit?

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Slinger1x1
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Hey
so my shop mismounted a pair of Bluehouse Maestros, twice, and ended up having to buy the guy a new pair of skis.
so now we have these skis and we are selling them for 300 dollars.
they are cheap, no doubt, but they have been drilled twice. I have heard that twice is the little, but the one other ski buff in the store says it makes no difference.
so why is two mounts the limit?

im not sure if i will actually pick up the skis though, i ski the eat coast so i dont really need them unless they lower the price more for some reason.
I can pick them up for someone though, 189s (pm me about that).
Apr 11 2010 11:22PM
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BWalmer
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It depends on the ski, but usually a ski can take 3 mounts. The reason is that it weakens the core and makes for more points where the ski can break easier.
Apr 11 2010 11:27PM
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Dustin.
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Two mounts is fine, I think Armada warranties up to 3.  However, if a shop used up two of my mounts incorrectly then I would want new skis.
Apr 11 2010 11:27PM
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yeahitsdave
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normally, three times is when you start to weaken the ski. I've seen skis mounted 5 times without any problems, just a matter of how far spaced the holes are.

the real problem is when you start getting key holed, where your new mount overlaps the old holes. just comes down to what bindings you put on and how it matches up to the old ones
Apr 11 2010 11:28PM
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B-runge
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what about a mount where the two forward most holes are about 6cm from where they should be

i fear my skis will break easily if i remount because that is right around where they will flex and i flex this specific pair of skis alot, should the shop give me a new pair for mounting them 5 cm infront of true center on their second mount, remounting would make it the third one and them very weak i think
Apr 11 2010 11:46PM
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no_steeze
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3 starts to compromise the ski but that's assuming you even have room for a 3rd set of holes. generally you can't even fit 4 different hole patterns on a ski while keeping them 1cm apart
Apr 11 2010 11:52PM
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I_Am_Mod
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it all depends; you cannot say that 2 mounts is the limit for every ski.
it depends on the binding pattern, the mounting spot, etc...
if the old holes are on a good spot, you can always remount there with a brass insert or an helicoil.
or you could try with a different binding; different binding : different holes.

you should keep your new holes about a hole diameter away from the old holes, or else you'll compromise the integrity of the ski (rule of thumb)

so i advice you to check out the ski; take the bindings you want, position them on the ski (correct position over center+ correct BSL between toe and heelpiece; then mark the holes and check if they are possible....

just use your common sense; don't drill too close to old holes; but consider reusing old ones if they're in the way...(helicoil/inserts)
Apr 12 2010 11:04AM
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DGOskeeze
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It is not necessarily a limit thing. You could have a ski that is drilled twice and not have any issues with it as long as the previous holes all remain underfoot. If you mounted a ski back, then moved it all the way to core center, there is a good chance that you will have holes directly behind the heel binding. This is where issues arise.
Think about drilling two holes in a board shaped like a ski, if you were to break it, where do you think it would break first?
You could probably drill a ski 4 times and as long as all previous holes are underfoot or binding most people would not know the difference, but the integrity of the ski is definitely compromised.
I have worked in shop for 4 years and have seen more skis break at previous mounting positions than just snapping where there are no holes.
I would advise that you always try to keep it to one, but that is not always possible. Just be mindful of where you mount the second, third or possibly even fourth time.
Apr 12 2010 12:30PM
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iggyskier
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Actually according to their warranty policy, they only will warranty skis with one set of screw holes.

"Skis mounted more than once. Only one set of drilled screw holes is allowable. More than one recognizable mount and/or filling holes and re-mounting the ski voids this Warranty."


And as for why - everyone else seemed to answer it. Eventually it begins to affect ski core's integrity. Some skis can definitely take more than 2, or even 3. As to why some shops won't mount past 2 mounts = liability.
Apr 12 2010 12:43PM
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