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JOSS Needs A Women's Group

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indatrenches
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The face of freeskiing is so progressive and everchanging, with women leading the charge, they deserve a chance at JOSS. i know girls like Ashley Battersby could hang with Jossi and Andreas, they just need a chance.

all of those in favor of a women's roar in JOSS, say "I,"
Apr 7 2010 12:58PM
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Style+eeze
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very good post
Apr 7 2010 7:26PM
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reBlocke
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The last thing womens skiing needs is bigger jumps. Can you imagine if men were expected to hit 100 footers back when a switch 7 was impressive in mens skiing?
Apr 7 2010 7:33PM
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Kirsakid
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No they shouldn't be allowed end of story
Apr 7 2010 7:41PM
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ChadThundercock
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well considering the size of the jumps... we are going to need a bigger kitchen.
Apr 7 2010 7:46PM
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chicken
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I agree!

I am sure there are some women skiing there anyways though
Apr 7 2010 7:48PM
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eheath
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No, just no.
Apr 7 2010 8:02PM
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THUGwife
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i probably wouldnt be that intetested in seeing their edit
Apr 7 2010 8:07PM
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gabfreeski
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Kaya turski should be able to hit those jumps
Apr 7 2010 8:11PM
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finnajon5
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Girls don't hit those jumps... show me a video of them hitting a jump and throwing down on a jump of that caliber... Not putting down girls just saying. Maybe a female JOSS competition off a smaller jump..
Apr 7 2010 8:13PM
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CakedWiddit
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Womans group...like a cooking contest?
Apr 8 2010 1:09AM
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C_Perin
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How do JOSS jumps dich out beetings? they are the best built jumps in the world. Yes they are huge, but the landing is designed for the lip and all.

I think alot of girls would hit those jump, its just i dont think alot of them would be down t throw down alot of tricks. I could be wrong.

But its to much saying the jumps are not suitable for women
Apr 8 2010 1:31AM
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bibs_skibum
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because of the construction and extra width of women's hip girdles it makes them extremely more susceptible to ACL tears. A jump of that size and a minor fall has a high likelihood of being a career ending injury. Plus women dont have the muscle strength and structure in their legs to stabilize their knees as well.

Not sexist, just science
Apr 8 2010 2:20AM
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easiestEC
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i still think it would be sick to see women competing along side men in the same competition. maybe even the same heats
Apr 8 2010 2:41AM
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bob_dole
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male teams should be allowed in queens cup
Apr 8 2010 2:48AM
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Skiingslikewhoa
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Girls should compete against girls...
Apr 8 2010 3:32AM
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Joonas
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From the link above:

5.    Men are more prone to taking risks.

Basically stops women from advancing as fast as men do.
I do the same tricks as a winner of a ladies competition, like 7s and shit on rails, and its only my first year while they've been skiing like 5 or more
Apr 8 2010 8:20AM
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Twinjibber77
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Just thought about this the other day, would be interesting.
Apr 8 2010 8:26AM
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BMS-Productions
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there are enough good looking swedish girls boooooooi
Apr 8 2010 9:00AM
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CTD
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this and triple strums post pretty much sum things up. In order for women to be able to compete at a similar level to men in a sport where knee strength is critical, they would really have to dedicate a ton of time in the gym to building the full leg strength required to support their knees, and even then, the actual ligaments, are still only about 70% as strong. I am by no means saying that it cant happen, as women athletes in plenty of other flippy spinny sports can hammer with men (gymnastics, arials, diving, etc). What I see as the defining factor in a sport like freeskiing VS those, is this. to become a good freeskier requires a huge amount of mental drive, personal motivation, and a strong desire to BE THE BEST. Theres no one there telling you what to do, its all about challenging yourself. Women, by NATURE, have far less of a mental need to do those kind of things, and to push themselves to that kind of level, where serious injury is almost a certainty (at least eventually). Men, are way more likely to be able to face and challenge those consequences, as its that kinda attitude that brought home wolly mammoth meat, beat weaker males, and innovate new things.

In more structured sports, there is a coach, instructing, guiding, and helping to shape her into a competitive athlete from an early age, and hence these women grow up to be significantly more capable than a girl who hasnt dedicated her life to those pursuits. boys, by nature, just kinda grow up that way, and certainly have the upper hand in this respect.

Men and women are different. like strum said, no ones better than the other, just different. skiing is a sport that plays to mens strengths much more than womens. Im the first to whole heartedly support womens sports, but its not worth insulting if you dont know why its that way, and it certainly is not insinuating that women CAN'T be there, they just dont typically have the same kind of NEED that men do to get there.
Apr 8 2010 2:04PM
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triebby
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Amen.
Apr 8 2010 2:11PM
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ECfreeski3
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youre mostly spot-on but this part i highlighted could be argued
Apr 8 2010 3:05PM
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wameron
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i'm sure jon has an excellent kitchen at the JOSS facilities
Apr 8 2010 3:06PM
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simmers
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They had a women's group last year. It was called "Team Sweden."
Apr 8 2010 3:33PM
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MNS
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NAY
Apr 10 2010 2:41AM
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AElot
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a womens group would ruin the event
Apr 10 2010 12:23PM
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tom.ch
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who would make the sandwiches for the male competitors?
Apr 10 2010 12:34PM
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andrewmeehan
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im surprised we havent heard from LindsayJibber yet........

LINDSAY WHERE ARE YOU!?!??!?!?!?!?!
she really has the final say if this thread is woman worthy.
Apr 10 2010 2:44PM
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whodunit
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It would be dumb to have a women's group at JOSS competing against the men.  it would be also dumb to require a female in each of the men's teams as they'd likely resent it and it could be patronizing as they figure out how to just fit them in.  What might be cool at some point would be to have a few female groups of two or three given the opportunity to film on those amazing sites, have that time to see what they could put together in terms of a film edit.  The point wouldn't be to be competitive with the guys but to see what was possible for female skiers, to see where women's skiing is at, to progress it in that high level environment.  JOSS has amazing features and they are considered to be very safe (men want to be protected from injuries too--look how many guys are out right now!) and the event is organized to encourage maximum success.  JOSS is all about creating a great edit and it might be really good for freesking to see what a few groups of females would come up with.  They might not be great the first time because females just don't have as much filming experience but it could really push the progression for females.

Each time females have been given the same competition opportunities as the males (like X games), there has been progression in the sport.  Female snowboarders receive way more competition opportunities for more years than female skiers which has helped their progression and given them profile.  This causes young females to go into snowboarding as they see it as a female friendly sport (with its own female snowboarding magazines, etc.)  Sure most of them don't become competitive but it is money for the industry and fans for the sport and its athletes. 

Apr 10 2010 3:12PM
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T-Holt
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Dude, have you seen Swedish chicks?
Apr 10 2010 3:30PM
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mseward
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kaya.
Apr 10 2010 3:56PM
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estaked
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ha ha....
Apr 10 2010 5:17PM
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Mike-O
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<3
Apr 10 2010 5:19PM
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lostheels
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http://www.freeskier.com/articles/article.php?article_id=4967

make a clicky

go and check this out!!

i would give her a chance on the max hip!!!

anybody agreeeeeeeee??
Apr 10 2010 5:21PM
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gbrunch
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Face it woman suck at sports
Apr 10 2010 5:46PM
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JaphyRyder
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2-3 years?? Pretty much every day I ski park I see someone who is as good if not better than the best girl pros...most of them are unsponsored park rat kids...
Apr 12 2010 3:11PM
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indatrenches
Posts: 613 - Karma: 98
ok, ok, ok, i just settled this once and for all.
i just got off the phone with the girls: three pro skiers, one person with a still camera, and two friends of theirs with video cameras are heading to joss right now. they said, "we don't care if we are late, we are going to show jon and the rest of the ski world what women are made of." i guess they have new prototype skis that have energy reflector process systems to reboot the pop in the ski. shits ultra sick. also, there are one piece suits retrofitted with The Hyperlead System. this enables you to find the center of gravity even when the center of gravity can't find you. ultra sick too.

good luck girls. the flight gets in 11:23EST.
holy shit, this is about to go off.
Apr 12 2010 9:15PM
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Darth_Veeder
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So by women, do you mean possibly men cross dressing?
Apr 12 2010 9:24PM
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Triple_Strum
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Umm....

Apr 12 2010 9:33PM
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Andrew.B
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im simply asking can girls hit jumps that big? if that throwdown iv seen one girl do a cork ever
Apr 12 2010 9:35PM
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Steeezy-E
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why would we allow them at JOSS? So i can see stuff i see mini groms doing at my local mountain?

 no thanks, id rather see progression of the SPORT, not of the Womans Side of the Sport.

 BUT, if a girl can actually throwdown just as hard as ANY of those skiers, by all means LET HER IN. she just has to be as good as they are...
Apr 12 2010 10:01PM
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n8myton
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this is a very valid post.
Apr 12 2010 10:37PM
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gigi.d
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Grete might be able to too. I saw something about her but i cannot find it now.
Apr 12 2010 10:56PM
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