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An Unusual What Ski Thread

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Ben.
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So my family is about to go shred snowbird with me, and my dad is looking to demo something a little fatter than your standard 70 underfoot performance rental ski.

he definitely wants traditional camber and not TOO fat, something 90ish underfoot would be ideal.

needs to come in a low 180s length.

also needs to be somewhat forgiving, since hes not 20 years old anymore, no skis that are gonna take him for a ride. thoughts?
Mar 24 2010 9:13PM
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nickyp
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Ninthward First Blood would be perfect. 91 underfoot, 180, with a long running length, nice flex pattern, and the nose-tip width differences means it slays the whole mountain.
Mar 24 2010 9:23PM
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Ben.
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i doubt the demo place in snowbird will have those though. going to have to go with more traditional/bigger companies.
Mar 24 2010 9:24PM
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nickyp
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what type of skiing is it for?
Mar 24 2010 9:28PM
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BWalmer
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I know you said traditional camber...but Kung Fujas or Rossi S3s would be really fun, both a mid 90s underfoot and tip and tail rockered (very mellow though).

As far as a traditional camber with a mid 90 underfoot that is forgiving, maybe an Atomic Patent (it's symmetrical, but it's 95 underfoot), Volkl Bridge (maybe the best bet for a traditional camber mid 90s - but it's a bit stiffer), or a Salomon Shogun (a bit wider at 100 underfoot, but light bamboo core, fairly even and forgiving flex).

I'd say, best picks would be between the S3, Bridge, or Shogun (Shogun would be my personal top pick - but I've been wanting to try a pair out for a while now).
Mar 24 2010 9:29PM
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Codfish.
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If you already know that they don't have that. tell us what they do have and it'll be a lot better then getting a bunch of responses of ski's that the demo shop doesn't have
Mar 24 2010 9:29PM
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Ben.
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he definitely wants to shred some pow, and be able to push through crud if they dont get much new snow. nothing SUPER steep and gnarly, but pretty much all mountain exploration. haha and no park obviously, so twin is not necessary
Mar 24 2010 9:30PM
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nickyp
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K2 Backlash, 92 waist, 181 cm

Salomon Czar 87 waist (I think), and its either in 184 or 185
Mar 24 2010 9:34PM
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Ben.
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definitely will look at the backlash

and do you mean the lord? czar is pretty fat, and i believe rockered as well.
Mar 24 2010 9:37PM
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BWalmer
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Czar's are over 100mm waist (105mm @ 166cm, 108mm @ 174cm, 111mm @ 182cm, and 114mm @ 190cm) and they're rockered a fairly good amount.
Mar 24 2010 9:38PM
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Ben.
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hmm. definitely wont put him on the bridge. ive ridden the bridge, and i dont think ive ever hated a ski more haha.

the shogun is pushing it on width. might be able to talk him into the kung fujas or s3. but he really doesnt want to do rocker, its already taken him long enough to even decide he wanted to try something remotely fat underfoot haha
Mar 24 2010 9:41PM
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nickyp
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sorry, I did mean the Lord.

But if they have the Backlash, give it a go, very nice ski.
Mar 24 2010 9:46PM
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Ben.
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yeah that would be prime, and still a flat tail.

i was pondering the legend series but im concerned about them being TOO stiff/chargy, anyone have any input?
Mar 24 2010 9:49PM
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.Max.
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I don't know about snowbird, but head up the canyon a bit and Alta demos LINE, K2, Black Diamond and some other brands, I'd try out some prophets...
Mar 24 2010 9:49PM
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nickyp
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Legend Mythic is a nice ski aswell. I've only ridden it once, on groomers, but it's very stable. It's also very stiff, and probably less forgiving than the Backlash. But if he's looking to mostly cruise, and get off piste for a bit, it's worth a try. Faultless build quality aswell.
Mar 24 2010 9:55PM
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BWalmer
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This might be the solution:
Incase that link fails cause dynastar's site is weird, Dynastar Sixth Sense Big, Regular Camber, 92mm underfoot, pretty forgiving, pretty much exactly what he's looking for.

Another option is the Line Flite, it has the specs of the Prophet 90 (90mm underfoot), but it's lighter and more forgiving.
Mar 24 2010 9:56PM
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iFail
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try to get something flat tailed if he's not riding switch..
 Dynastar has some skinnier skis similar to XXLs that could work.  Also Rossi Phantoms(probably a slight twin), I think there's a 98 waisted one.
Mar 24 2010 10:03PM
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Ben.
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id rather go more forgiving i think. but thanks for all the suggestions guys, i definitely have some ideas now.
Mar 24 2010 10:04PM
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Dustin.
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Put him on a pair of Line Prophet 90/100.  Should be easy to find a pair on demo.
Mar 25 2010 2:16PM
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pigglywiggly
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considering i live in PA, im no pow expert...but dont you think you should practically force him to get on slightly rockered skis if hes skiing powder? wouldnt it make it a way for enjoyable experience?
Mar 25 2010 2:24PM
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Slinger1x1
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since you're demoing, your not going to have a big selection of skis. probably not many of the skis anyone has mentioned here.

he will probably end up with K2 Apaches (or something in that K2 line). im calling that now
Mar 25 2010 8:02PM
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ThaLorax
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like Dubs said, the K2 Apache or the Backlash would be good.
Mar 25 2010 8:10PM
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Sklar
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i 2nd this.
the fattest thing i've seen is the shogun, which you have already ruled out.
I really like the shogun though, and so did my dead, who seems similar to yours
Mar 25 2010 8:16PM
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belden...
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obseths are amazing at snowbird i used them this year for a week there and it was a great time. Also the main rental ski at the bird is actualy the s7 (i no it's realy weird) so take a look at that
Mar 25 2010 8:28PM
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