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Lets discuss the "tea party".

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THATS_STREET
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i think that the tea party shit that is going on these days might be the funniest thing in the world. it makes me embarrassed to be an American.

i live in a pretty laid back non conservitave part of  new york and every saturday i drive by these jokers hold racists signs in a town that is 90% white middle class. they wouldn't do this two towns over where 80% of the population is hispanic.

i love asking these people where their klan hoods are and getting a mumbled response.


so, what is your take on the "tea party"?
Mar 22 2010 3:31PM
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Zump.
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just another group of people exercising their first amendment. doesn't bother me one bit. they are entitled to their opinion, i'm entitled to mine
Mar 22 2010 3:46PM
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pmills
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Mar 22 2010 3:55PM
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THATS_STREET
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i agree they are entitled to their opinion.

yet, really all the people i see  in this "tea party" are old, out of touch, and ignorant. they are the klan without the white hoods or robes. at least in my area. 
Mar 22 2010 3:56PM
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skier_boy26
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i drove by a rally in washington on my way to school and it was a pretty mixed bag of young and old. seemed fine to me. light years better than the anti bush, anti wto shit ive seen in seattle before
Mar 22 2010 3:59PM
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Arabian.
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I checked out when I noticed more than one sign saying "Don't Take Away from my Medicare to feed your Socialist Programs."

Basically, the average IQ of these people is around 90, and their leader is Glenn Beck. "Nuff said.
Mar 22 2010 4:00PM
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triebby
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At the end of the day, these people are for freedom, plain and simple. They see what Obama and the Dems (there are also more than a few Repubs on board) are doing to this country, and they don't like it. So instead of just sitting there and taking it, they figured they would at least make their voices heard. I don't know where you are getting the idea that they are all racists and are "the klan without hoods".

And as one of the above posts says, it is a pretty even mix of young and old. And I love how when "old people" are in the mix they are automatically coined as "out of touch" and far from the norm. Or maybe, just maybe, they know more than you? I mean young and old are entitled to their opinions, but people who are older than you have more life experience, plain and simple. They have lived under many more presidential administrations and Congresses than you, and thus have had more of an opportunity to see what does and doesn't work in the world/country. Granted there are exceptions to both, but as a general rule I would trust the knowledge and opinion of an older person when it comes to politics, world events, and life in general, much more so than I would the opinion of someone my own age (20).

Overall, I think the "Tea Parties" are a good thing. I just wish people wouldn't be so quick to throw them under the bus as nut jobs. Sure there are a few wackos, as there are with any large group, but by and large these are normal, sane people with some pretty sound reasoning skills and good points. It would nice if folks would actually listen to some of their ideas and consider them (not accept them, just consider them), instead of just seeing that the evil Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh agree with them and therefore all of their arguments are invalid.
Mar 22 2010 4:22PM
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geteducated
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the tea party are sick bro.  i like their song 'heaven coming down'. they're the best.
Mar 22 2010 4:42PM
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@koby
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I watched some video clips of their protests outside the capitol while the bill is being legislated. They go for the shock effect, with ridiculous attention-mongering claims. they were holding signs like this one

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these are the people who have prevented Obama from successfully implementing bipartisan politics, where issues would be decided by intelligent and civil discussion. The tea party moves our country away from problem solving and discussion and towards the use of shock value tactics to scare and misinform a public that direly needs the stability and assistance a civil and professional legislature could provide.


I sincerely hope for the good of the country that the republican party finds a way to separate itself from the tea party. The republican are losing their respectability by embodying the democrats moniker, "the party of no." Things like Obama's bipartisan discussion forum on the healthcare bill about a month ago are perfect opportunities for civil discussion and compromise, but the "party of no" once again rendered that discussion unsuccessful.


I believe that if the republicans wish the end the embarrassing trend of an uncompromising and combative stance on most legislation, they must distance themselves from the tea party and work to reestablish themselves and the respectable party they once were; a party that worked in the interest of the country, even if it meant compromising.

Mar 22 2010 4:45PM
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@koby
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sorry for the dub post. doonesbury is always spot on

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Mar 22 2010 4:47PM
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Mykel
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I think it's embarrasing that people were out in the steets with signs showing president bush being hung. But that is freedom of speach. Why is it that liberal protesters were completely accepted, yet conservative protesters are insane and racist? You need to chickity check yo self son. It's called freedom of speach, we can say what we want and ignore what we want. I personally think protesting is pointless and would be very hardpressed to find a situation in which i would engage in it.
Mar 22 2010 4:50PM
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Ben.
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Granted i havent actually BEEN to a tea party, and if there is one thing the media loves, its a good protest, and then completely skewing the views and attitudes of those who are participating.

However EVERY single thing i have seen has indicated to me that 95% of these people either have no clue why they are there, or are there because obama is black.
Mar 22 2010 4:51PM
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THATS_STREET
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well i never said anything about supporting liberal protesters. because i dont. personally i think protesting of any kind is a HUGE waste of time.


Mar 22 2010 4:58PM
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yojimbo
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I have tea parties all the time. I like green tea, and something nice to snack on. I usually put on a nice record and we pass a couple doobies around. Lots of fun.
Mar 22 2010 5:10PM
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panojibber
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Green tea is soooo damn good for you. I do like it. In fact, I'm drinking some right now.

Anyways, remember people, the right of free speech is only in any constitution to protect the people who everyone else hates. Lol. Kind of ironic, or so it seems.
Mar 22 2010 5:14PM
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Delphi
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Do you regurgitate everything MSNBC and Keith Olberdouche tell you? Open your eyes you fool.
Mar 22 2010 5:16PM
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Mykel
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I didn't mean you speciically supporting them. I meant the media in general. Bottom line: protesting won't effect policy. Politicians will vote based on what special interests and their parties pay them to vote for. Let's all just focus on protesting the WBC.
Mar 22 2010 5:18PM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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Youtube clips are not giving you their quality arguments... If you want info about a group of people Youtube generally isnt the best place to start. Their opinions do have some value.

They wont negotiate because there is nothing they want in the health care bill. The system is set up so they dont have to negotiate...

They are not ruining the country... In fact, individuals who have something to say (no matter how radical that might be) are what makes America the country that it is. You always have to look at issues from both sides and understand the strength each side has.


Mar 22 2010 5:18PM
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Steeze_Cake
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I had done something like that as well, drove by these people every day yelling slander and jargon to two people holding signs on opposite sides of the rode. I, at first, thought it was some kind of political battle going on, and then resorted to the obvious reason why they were doing this. An alien clan battle from outerspace, holding signs dising each others clan through offensive signs. Turns out, they were just advertising for the Movie Gallery right down the road, silly meee.
Mar 22 2010 5:21PM
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nickyp
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Yeah, I mean the Nazis and the Westboro Baptists Church, all while extreme, have some good policies....












/sarcasm
It actually hurt me to even write that sarcastically
Mar 22 2010 5:22PM
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THATS_STREET
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if your talking to me. no. i don't watch the news. i have only ever seen keith olberman on sunday night football and hes a fool.

my eyes are open. i see a bunch of old racists with nothing better to but waste their time holding signs with racial slurs on them  standing on the side of a road.they are fighting for something that will only effect them for the few years of their lives they have left. i try to provoke them and piss them off, its fun.
Mar 22 2010 5:26PM
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Delphi
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Yeah, we should tally up the damages incurred in the Tea Party protests and similar liberal protests. I think you'll see who has a greater grasp of the big picture. Next time a tea partier throws a brick through a storefront or lights a car on fire, call me. Better yet, call me when the swat teams are called in. It WONT happen. You people are completely brainwashed by MSNBC and John Stewart and every other moron who has written about the Tea Party. I have been to a tax day tea party. People know what they are there for and they can articulate why they are there without screaming and dumping blood all over you or lighting shit on fire. there is inevitably going to be a few nut jobs wherever you are. Since when did it become practice to classify a movement based on one person's sign? I thought you people were smarter than this. If you look at the recent education riots across the US, especially at Berkeley, you will see who the real radicals are.
Mar 22 2010 5:28PM
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Delphi
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also, last time I checked, there is a substantial number of black Americans who have participated in tea party protests. Not sure I've seen or heard the racial slurs you are talking about either. Can't be much different than burning George Bush in effigy though.
Mar 22 2010 5:38PM
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pmills
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for those interested in cereal stuff:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/18/tea-party-ignorant-taxes-opinions-columnists-bruce-bartlett.html

Bruce Bartlett Conducted a survey of the recent DC tea party attendees; they got 57 responses from a crowd of 300-500.

From his survey

Tea Partyers were asked how much the federal government gets in taxes as a percentage of the gross domestic product.

acceptable answers would be 6.4%, which is the percentage for federal income taxes; 12.7%, which would be for both income taxes and Social Security payroll taxes; or 14.8%, which would represent all federal taxes as a share of GDP in 2009. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/108xx/doc10871/historicaltables.pdf

The average response from those who were a part of the survey was 42% of GDP; the median response was 40%

Tea Partyers were asked how much they think a typical family making $50,000 per year pays in federal income taxes.

According to calculations by the Joint Committee on Taxation, tax filers with adjusted gross incomes between $40,000 and $50,000 have an average federal income tax burden of just 1.7%. Those with adjusted gross incomes between $50,000 and $75,000 have an average burden of 4.2%.

The average response was $12,710 (26%), the median $10,000(20%).



He's basically saying that the Tea Party movement is fueled by misinformation.
Mar 22 2010 5:39PM
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pmills
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see above
Mar 22 2010 5:41PM
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Delphi
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an opinion column isn't credible. Someone obviously had an agenda here. "tea-party-ignorant-taxes-opinions....." that should clue you in.

Or you could head down to one of the nearest socialist/communist protests where they sell the newspaper "The Socialist Worker"  for a buck 25. Talk about people who are ignorant of their own cause..By selling their newspapers, they are engaging in capitalism an undermining the very basic foundations of their belief system.
Mar 22 2010 5:43PM
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THATS_STREET
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well at least in my local area. there a no black people participating in these. and also the racial slurs are not only towards black people but hispanic/mexican people as well.
and like i said this is happening in a town where it is almost 100% white middle class.  why not go hold up a sign that says "spic" on it in a town where there are a ton of mexicans.

also to be noted that these people just started with the whole "tea party" movement before it gained prominence they where the "patriots".
Mar 22 2010 5:46PM
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KarmaInitiative
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there are conservatives with reasonable oppositions to obama policies, but the tea parties just ridiculously blow everything out of proportion, like somehow these marginal changes to healthcare make the country a socialist nation and obama a dictator. its sad how successful big business was in forming this group, the democrats can learn from them
Mar 22 2010 5:47PM
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Delphi
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not sure what you are trying to say here, but the character of the tea party movement has been pretty uniform since the first protests in Seattle, it has just grown. The core principles of small government are still there. The tea party in Boston was overwhelmingly middle class and it was incredibly tame for a protest. Most of the people brought their families, a ton of people dressed up in revolutionary war gear, and they threw tea chests into Boston Harbor. None of the shit you are talking about happened there. Everyone was completely respectful and nothing got damaged, the police/swat teams were not called in. Just saying, you can't always go by what you read from the left. The reason this movement is more civilized than usual left-wing protests is because most of those are filled with teens and young adults instead of older people who have families and children to take care of.
Mar 22 2010 5:51PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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Naw dog, sorry. You're wrong. Tea party attendees always watch Glenn Beck and get all fired up that Obama is going to 'kill their grandparents with his DEATH PANELS!! MMMBAHHHH" I guess this all stems from the fact Glenn Beck is actually mildly retarded..and a fear-monger. Kind of like Bill O'Reilly. Kind of makes me laugh that people are complaining his policies are going to make them pay more taxes..well I'm pretty sure here in Canada my uncle pays somewhere in the range of 45,000 dollars in taxes, or 29 percent of his salary. OMGGGGG, HIS TAXEZ ARE GOINGZ TO MAK3 ME GO BR000K3!

No they're not fucker, just live within your means.


I'll leave you with a joke.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and her vagina? Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded.
Mar 22 2010 5:58PM
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blackoutbill
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That's because the "liberal" protesters are usually protesting a real problem unlike the teaparty

Mar 22 2010 6:09PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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http://www.oldsouthmeetinghouse.org/osmh_123456789files/AnnualReenactment.aspx


They do that every December..it's called a re-enactment.
Mar 22 2010 6:16PM
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Arabian.
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That's the real difference there. One side was protesting real problems, and the Tea Partiers are protesting possible, or perceived problems. You have to admit that alot of what the right protests is change, rather than actual injustice.
Mar 22 2010 6:39PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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I dono, a lot of social causes I just don't give a fuck about.


The plight of Armenian farm workers? I sure as fuck don't care.
Mar 22 2010 6:40PM
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Arabian.
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I'm talking about protesting on both sides, not what both sides are about. When the left was protesting Bush, they were also protesting war, overspending, and how corrupt the administration was - valid problems.

The Teabaggers are protesting changes to healthcare, the budget crisis, and whatever Glenn Beck tells them to protest that week (like the Birther movement). Each one of their protests is in response to the Government trying to fix a broken or failing system, rather than an actual injustice done to them or others. They'd rather things stay the same.
Mar 22 2010 6:45PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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Obama isn't wasting money?



LOLOLOLOLOL, gawtcha!
Mar 22 2010 6:48PM
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Arabian.
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Yeah, well these people aren't protesting Obama wasting money on the stimulus bill. They're protesting the fact that he spent so much. Number vs. content. These people aren't smart enough to actually learn about what they're protesting.
Mar 22 2010 6:57PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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...you just said the same thing twice.


Mar 22 2010 6:58PM
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Ben.
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i think he means that they dont actually know what its being spent on, they just automatically call it waste.

for example i saw a survey that a scarily huge percentage of people think that the stimulus and the bank bailouts were the same thing.
Mar 22 2010 7:03PM
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Norred
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The tea party groups in my area protest wasteful spending and corruption. Why is it that when the left was protesting the Bush admin for the very same things it was okay, but when it's the right we're called "tea baggers" and "racists" by the media? I'm sure there are plenty of racists out there, but that's not what the tea parties are about.
Mar 22 2010 7:03PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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that's true.

Wasn't there an inordinate amount of money spent to resod the National Mall?
Mar 22 2010 7:08PM
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Kayess
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i was just about to say the same thing. the tea part protesters have no fucking clue what they are protesting, all they know is what Fox "news" tells them. The root all the protests is the media and specifically fox news. now i know someone might say that i am just some liberal douche who watches msnbc all day and therefore am just as brainwashed as fox news viewers. however  in fact while msnbc does have a liberal bias they are not blatantly lying, which is what fox new is doing. they are simply lying, they blow everything out of proportion and lie simply to cause fear and panic and further there own agenda. if Americans were not so god damn stupid and could educate themselves about health care and taxes there would be no fucking protests.
Mar 22 2010 7:09PM
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Ben.
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maybe if the protesters would stop trampling it, they wouldnt have to resod hahaha
Mar 22 2010 7:13PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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touche!



I wish I could do the accent on the E so I don't look so stupid.
Mar 22 2010 7:14PM
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Ben.
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touché


i win
Mar 22 2010 7:16PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, fuck yaself.



THIS IS NOW THE HELEN KELLER JOKE THREAD


why can Helen Keller only masturbate with one hand? She needs the other one to moan.
Mar 22 2010 7:17PM
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Kayess
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how come helen keller couldnt drive?   Cuz she was a woman!!11!
Mar 22 2010 7:21PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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What's Helen Keller's favorite color?

Corduroy.
Mar 22 2010 7:27PM
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802amplitude
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Now I am calling bullshit, I do not think so.
Mar 22 2010 7:35PM
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Steeze_Cake
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Why did Hellen Keller's parents laugh when she went to the bathroom?

Because they left the plunger in the toilet.

>:0
Mar 22 2010 7:38PM
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skiierman
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i hope they get into history books. imagine...

"The Tea Party was lead by Glen Beck, a conservative television personality and conspiracy enthusiast. The spokesperson was Sarah Palin who gained popularity through failing to attain office of vice presidency in the election of 2008, was pushed out of Alaskan office for financial fraud and could see Russia from Alaska. The 2010 Tea Party differs from the event that led up to the American Revolution in that the Glen Beck Tea Party focused on the hatred of black and gay people rather than freedom, equal opportunity and rights- as was represented by the original Tea Party. This group did not accomplish anything of importance and was mostly known to stand around holding signs, spitting and yelling racial slurs at people. The group finally ended in 2011 when they committed mass suicide in Washington, D.C. in opposition of President Obama's decision to withdraw all troops from Iraq."
Mar 22 2010 7:40PM
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