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Scrambles
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PLEASE DO NOT GET RID OF ELIZEBETHS!!!!!!! I'm 6"0 187lbs Demoed a pair of lizzie's and they are the absolute best ski I've ridden, with exception of switch park landings. I have never had as much fun on a ski as I have today, I actually enjoyed carving, I buttered the whole mountain, I slayed the rails, built and sessioned bc kickers. I was skeptical about trying these as they're only 174(?) but they slay!! I need a pair of these, but sadly, when I get the money they will be all gone. =*(
Feb 27 2010 8:48PM
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jason...
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Just buy Bacon's, you'll probably enjoy them quite a bit more since they actually fit you.
Feb 27 2010 8:58PM
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Scrambles
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I heard bacons were stiffer?
Feb 27 2010 9:21PM
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JahJahBinks
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Dear LINE skis,
Invaders suck and I regret investing in them.




Thank you.
Feb 27 2010 9:56PM
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Scrambles
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Lul
Feb 27 2010 10:11PM
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Dustin.
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Snowblades are fun too.
Feb 27 2010 10:15PM
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Scrambles
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And gay
Feb 27 2010 10:38PM
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iFail
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187 and loving lizzies- do you do any skiing going in the direction down the mountain?
Feb 27 2010 11:45PM
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murs
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new 2011 bacons are softer with rocker

2011 epos are stiffer

i recommend new bacons
Feb 28 2010 2:02AM
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ike.
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i might try to get a pair this year before they are gone cuz i have tried em, and love em
Feb 28 2010 2:21AM
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Twig
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Haha I made the identical thread a couple of months back, same title too. If you want them I'm sure you'll be able to find a pair around for a while. I just bought a new pair and I'll probably by another pair after the end of the season as backup.

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/516423/
Feb 28 2010 6:50AM
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HamFaceGirl
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Well, I guess you got your wish
Feb 28 2010 7:54AM
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Gooseling
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They obviously werent selling enough lizzies
Feb 28 2010 9:33AM
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Shlogan
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arent the blend a new softer construction as well? check and see if that could suit your fancy.
Feb 28 2010 10:12AM
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greenmachine771
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Dear LINE skis,
My afterbangs suck and I regret investing in them. Thank you.

Feb 28 2010 10:16AM
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iFail
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Dear Line Skis: if the Chronic was designed around a -2 or -2.5 from true center mount, with core center being there(so current equal flex being moved up about 3.5 or 4cm), it would probably make a real good park ski.  Currently, it sucks, because mounting it at -2 makes it carve like shit due to messed up flex pattern. None of your park skis are good at jumps atm, so do this!

 It'd make it comparable to good jump skis, and probably be cheaper=salesssss.

Feb 28 2010 7:03PM
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jibjunkie
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for everyone saying that he should look into rockered blends or rockered bacons NO. rocker on hardpack is retarted. the lizzies surfed cuz of the camber and deep as sidecut. they were magical and to think that a ski with half as much effective edge is going to surf down the slopes and through the park is just ignorant


there is no other ski like the lizzie.
Feb 28 2010 7:08PM
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iFail
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I find reverse sidecut skis to be much more "surfy" down smooth groomers than skis with camber and/or sidecut.  What's the effective edge of reverse sidecut skis?  I bet it's wayy more than half that of lizzies.  Lots of rockered park skis are great at the same thing most people who liked lizzies liked them for.

I think Reno Rockers would be a better choice for all the things people do on lizzies.

Feb 28 2010 7:58PM
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jibjunkie
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first of all you dont seem to know the difference between camber and sidecut. reverse sidecut skis are very rare because of how useless they are outside of the deep. the closest thing to one currently produced is the armada arg

here is a reverse sidecut ski

im sure these will be very fun on groomers.......not

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Feb 28 2010 8:03PM
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Twig
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Effective edge on lizzies is like 150cm, a bit longer than a 181 Reno Jib (because of the lizzies tips/tails). I bet the effective edge on groomers of ARGs isnt 75cm..
Mar 1 2010 8:15AM
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Twinjibber77
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Yeah, because they were in one size maybe?
If that ski was a 180+ i know about a hundred people including myself that would be purchasing a pair immediately. I had the awesome opportunity to ride a pair and they were so much fun but hella sketch purely because of the size.
Mar 1 2010 8:55AM
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ESK
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Nothing in next years line up is gonna be like a Lizzie honestly. Better scoop up a pair by the end of year sales.
Mar 1 2010 10:33AM
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PhuzzyWuzzy
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I just got a pair on sale for $336.  So stoked!
Mar 1 2010 11:56AM
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cobra_commander
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Dear line skis,

Can I have a pair of prophet 115's please. They are fucking awesome.

Thanx
-cobra
Mar 1 2010 1:00PM
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ESK
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Nice find indeed.
Mar 1 2010 1:57PM
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jibjunkie
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how tall are you? the lizzie is intended to ride short like a snowboard but you cant judge the ski like you owul any other park ski. people from 5'7 to 6'3 can all enjoy the lizzies. if you found them sketch you must be 6'7 which is understandable but they are meant to ride short
Mar 1 2010 3:19PM
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Balto
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sam knows the diff, he has 202 dps 138s
Mar 1 2010 3:42PM
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Twig
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not calling anyone out, but don't those have a tiny bit of sidecut underfoot?
Mar 1 2010 5:30PM
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jibjunkie
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they do that why i said the closest thing to them are args. the args do have abit of sidecut maybe like 40 cm or so. and reverse sidecut skis are definitely not "surfy" down groomers. they are terrifying
Mar 1 2010 5:35PM
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Balto
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ARGs yes, DPS no
Mar 1 2010 5:41PM
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Twig
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New ones maybe? Website says: 125/140/138/139/108
Mar 1 2010 7:52PM
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PaleCelery
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Dear line skis:

let me design yur skis next year and everyone will love you
Mar 1 2010 8:03PM
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I_liketobutter
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shhhhhhh, stop telling people this, i want a pair for myself :) I also dont want a used pair selling for $400 next year.

ok end thread
Mar 1 2010 8:50PM
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.jesus.
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so true i demoed the 2011 arg's on groomers worst time ever
Mar 1 2010 8:52PM
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IRockLizzys
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Uhh, I weigh 200 and I won't ski anything else. Yes, they chatter like none other, but they've never lost edge me.
Mar 1 2010 8:59PM
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Mister.F
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haha
Mar 1 2010 9:39PM
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Twinjibber77
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I'm 6'4" and i found them sketch on anything but rails and jibs as well as super fun buttering on flats and such. At least a 178 or something? That's all i ask. I understand where they were going with that ski but the people that i know wanted a few cm's too.
At least two sizes.
Mar 1 2010 11:33PM
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XtRemE11
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rocker on hardpack is anything but retarded. ive owned lizzies, ep's, hellbents, and skiied  the new kung fujas and seths with rocker.  and honestly i dont notice any real negative from having rocker, atleast nothing you cant get over after 2 runs. and they all seem to carve great, and have a super surfey feel.
my ep's are some of the better carving ski's ive ever ridden, they are super fun on groomers, ive got probably 30 days on them in the park hitting jumps up to 50 ft. and as long as your not landing super back seat they are amazing. 
i like every ski i mentioned more than the lizzies, i think if the lizzies were like 178 same stiffness, and rockered they would be amazing.

Mar 2 2010 2:29AM
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Heart
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Dear LINE skis,

I love my invaders, but extruded bases are way too slow.
Mar 2 2010 9:16PM
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joshua
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Sizing question: Would 130 pounds be too light for lizzies?
Mar 2 2010 9:19PM
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rj.
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no
Mar 2 2010 9:31PM
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iFail
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I do know the difference, and ARGs and L138s have a tiny sidecut for a bit of the ski.  Reverse sidecut skis are far from worthless outside of pow.  Spatulas, for every ski in that length as comparison, might be the best crud/rain crust skis ever, and they are full reverse.

Praxis Pows and Moment Donner Parties are both true reverse, ARGs technically aren't, and yes, there is such thing as a true reverse sidecut ski..

Back to what I think started the conversation- groomers.  I think reverse sidecut skis are fun on smooth groomers because you can go down sideways and maintain speed(then really dig in to stop).  This is probably the most fun I could have on a smooth groomer with any ski outside of park.

They're not rare either.  I've ran into people with ARGs, Spatulas and demoing L138s the past two days that I was on my L138s, and they weren't the most epic pow days or anything..

Mar 2 2010 9:31PM
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MADDECENT
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Mar 2 2010 10:17PM
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ike.
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yes you do.
Mar 2 2010 10:20PM
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