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Billiards.
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Everyone has a different view on what skiing is. Many of you consider skiing to be anything that involves a pair of skis. I think thats a cool way to look at it and will provoke a lot of creative thinking, but I do not feel that way. Skiing to me, is skiing. Utilizing every part of your skis, carving, using your edges, usually done on a mountain. Park skiing is skiing to an extent, but going strait into a jump doing a trick and landing is pretty much aerials. Carving off off of jumps, SKIING into jumps is how one makes park skiing actual skiing. There are a lot of very talented athletes competing in JOSS, all of whom are very good at what they do. But Joss needs a skier who can ski and bring something new to the table.

Chris Logan: https://newschoolers.com/web/mediacontests/showentry/cid/45/id/2616/ could be that guy.

No, I don't really know him, so I might seem like a fucking creep, but hes the only entry carving hard, doing some different variations of grabs, and really skiing. I know everyone likes to see a skier who is a little bit more unique, so lets send him to JOSS.
Feb 22 2010 3:39PM
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yellav
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give him the ten. respect all the other competitors but i really agree that his skiing is on a whole different level.


Feb 22 2010 3:43PM
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backwardsrider
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I fully, 100% agree.

Chris's style is so fucking ill, and he's one of the few who can carve the shit out of jumps well.

I know his stuff will look amazing on some big ass jumps.

Feb 22 2010 3:43PM
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j.bird
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agree 100% i only gave 2 tens, and he got one.
Feb 22 2010 3:48PM
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triebby
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I also only gave out 2 10's. One to C. Logan and One to Joss Christensen.
Feb 22 2010 3:50PM
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Keyjibbs
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god dammit not another carve hard grab blunt thread. Chris Logan kills it thats for damn sure. But if everyone carved into there spins and grabbed blunt all the time it would get so boring. I know he can do other grabs but I don't personally fee like he should compete in JOSS. Is he underrated? maybe. But people will do what they want on skis and everyone has a definition of what skiing is. I don't think going off a jump straight is aerials what so ever. But I have my opinion and other people have theirs.
Feb 22 2010 4:08PM
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Billiards.
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didn't mention blunt grabs. Plus theres a lot of not blunt in that edit too. And we don't have anyone carve hard grabbing blunt in JOSS, so I do not understand how it would get boring.
Feb 22 2010 4:11PM
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MALONE
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silly kids, Dark is the best
Feb 22 2010 4:12PM
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Shadows
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agreed. thats why im not real stoked on traveling circus. it really is a circus. theyre all great guys and kill it respectively but some shit im just like, wtf.
Feb 22 2010 4:14PM
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TWoods
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If you would have read for comprehension, you would have realized that this is not a carve hard grab blunt thread. Chris does not always grab blunt, or carve hard. As was stated by the Wise Billem, he does grab variations, and uses his skis. Not carve hard grab blunt.

If everyone skied straight into jumps, that would get pretty damn boring too, wouldn't it? Carving into your big spins is the illest. Straight lining into a jump and sending a laid out backflip is the illest.

It's all about SKIING, not just using skis to get into the air, because that's aerials. THAT'S what this thread is about.

Send the darkness to JOSS
Feb 22 2010 4:15PM
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Twig
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personally i'd rather see Lolo's screamings or C-Vans butters.. not that logan doesn't kill it..
Feb 22 2010 4:16PM
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nellyyy
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I'm waiting for more kids who can do good cork 3's and 5's without carving. Carving is sick a lot of the time but kids that can only do certain tricks while carving bother me.

Feb 22 2010 4:22PM
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backwardsrider
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eh?

carved cork 3s and 5s or any corks for that matter look soo much smoother, are on a different axis, and are more fun than non carved ones.

you want to see ugly tricks? 

Feb 22 2010 4:29PM
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Shadows
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cork 3 without a carve would be dope though. ive never done or seen one. the carve sets the pop so you dont land backseat i feel like.
Feb 22 2010 4:30PM
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Billiards.
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What? Kinda random.
Feb 22 2010 4:32PM
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nellyyy
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you make the claim that non-carved tricks aren't skiing, but aerials. but really, non-carved tricks can look really cool and i think its way more impressive with certain tricks to be able to do them without a carve (i.e. cork 3's and 5's). i just feel like carving certain tricks like that are just an easy route to learning the trick, whereas being able to do them with a good takeoff often takes more skill
Feb 22 2010 4:43PM
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nellyyy
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not taking anything away from logan, kid's been killing it for as long as i can remember
Feb 22 2010 4:44PM
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j.bird
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i think you are confused what a "good takeoff" is. Skiing into something straight legged and just flat on you bases takes skill? No, sorry. Anyone can stand upright and slide down a hill... you just stand there...More skill? you are further proving the OP's point.

You have to know how to SKI in order to properly use your edges. I am not taking away from anyone, but this is one of the stupidest statements I have ever heard.
Feb 22 2010 5:11PM
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GetPitted
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Ftw.
Feb 22 2010 6:17PM
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Gooseling
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everyone give a 10
Feb 22 2010 6:18PM
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bret
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no his statement isn't stupid. it's way easier to set certain tricks (cork 3, cork 5, sw 7 for example) with a carve. i agree that it would be way harder to do those tricks off a straight-in set.

the point isn't that i would necessarily want to see those tricks off a straight set. i think you're right that it wouldn't be as flowy. but for argument's sake, the guy is absolutely right that carving into a jump doesn't ALWAYS take more skill. try to ski straight into a trick that you usually carve into... it's pretty hard once you're used to carving!
Feb 22 2010 7:31PM
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jca
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fuuuuck Chris Logan kills it so hard.

his style is so flowy.

Feb 22 2010 8:41PM
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T-Holt
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What? Traveling Circus is a totally different vibe and style of skiing than this. They mostly do really tech rail stuff. Don't try to compare the two, I like them both for very different reasons.
Feb 22 2010 8:49PM
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Shadows
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i wasnt comparing anything - you did. not once did i use "like" or "as" in my post except in a 13 year old context.
Feb 22 2010 8:55PM
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T-Holt
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My impression was that because you said that you agree with the OP, and then immediately referenced Traveling Circus, that you were comparing them.
Feb 22 2010 9:03PM
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laurence^
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Someone needs to enlighten me as to why there's a discussion about carving into tricks to introduce this dude's entry, which is sick by the way. I think we all agree that aerials are gymnastics on skis but why does this relate to JOSS????
Feb 22 2010 9:04PM
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Shadows
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i could see that. my mind crams mad topics together. sorry
Feb 22 2010 9:07PM
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T-Holt
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It's all good, I didn't mean to come off as accusatory, we're both partly at fault in this situation. I'm glad we settled it.
Feb 22 2010 9:09PM
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Shadows
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hear hear!
Feb 22 2010 9:19PM
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pghjibber
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lol i love chris logan, but you HAVE to carve into most of the jumps at mammoth if your going to spin them....
Feb 22 2010 9:28PM
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STAUSS
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wise bill.  he's not even at college yet!!!!
Feb 22 2010 9:30PM
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sklermang
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hah it sounds really dumb to be honest, the point being that carving into jumps makes it skiing, but its scratching the surface of something thats pretty damn true. i think i notice it more on landings, and mostly switch landings. theres a huge difference between just landing switch doin a huge awkward snow plow down the landing, and landing with your skis together, going right into a smooth switch carve.
Feb 22 2010 9:37PM
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Billiards.
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Because a lot of skiers that are competing in JOSS have very similar styles in my opinion. And Joss could use a little spice on things, which I feel Chris Logan could provide and we could provide him a spot in the contest if we vote for his entry...
Feb 22 2010 9:48PM
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laurence^
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kay im not trying to be mean here but your op is just not making any sense, i can't think of one skiers potentially competing in JOSS who doesn't know how to ski and carve and simply does "aerials" in the air.  IMO from what im seeing here logan is just as generic from what you're describing even though i do think hes a good skier... take a look at favre's entry...now that is a bit different
Feb 23 2010 12:59AM
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Alex_G
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what are u waiting for...if you want it to be done go out there and do it your self
Feb 23 2010 1:10AM
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ECfreeski3
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why do you say that?
Feb 23 2010 2:04AM
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TWoods
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lots of people seem to think you need super poppy jumps to do tricks on.

Am I the only one making the connection? haha.
Feb 23 2010 2:10AM
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MALONE
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Alright there is no debate on weather carving is "harder", its the fact that its skiing, we got metal edges in the 60's so they would be used....fucking use em. Lots of you sound fucking stupid, Chris is waaaaaaaay better than alot of the kids whos dicks you dangle from. Hope he goes to Joss for skiings sake hes a skiers skier.
Feb 23 2010 2:46AM
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j.bird
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Feb 23 2010 10:40AM
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