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koffee412
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Hey i can do 180's and some grabs but i can never do boxes and i knw u guys are just gonna say dont be a pussy but im not i get on the box then fall. HELP?
Feb 13 2010 8:11PM
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Nooschoolers
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keep your weight forward. slightly tilt your front ski up. hike. or ask someone in the park to help you
Feb 13 2010 8:13PM
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nickyp
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Assuming you're falling backwards, if your skis wash out from underneath you, and you fall backwards, you need to widen your stance, and transfer your weight forwards. So as a rule of thumb, feet shoulder width apart, and don't be tempted to put all your weight on the back foot, but try and get an even distribution, and that way you will balance far better



Feb 13 2010 8:14PM
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ECfreeski3
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lean forward, keep your weight over your feet. 99% of the time i see someone try a box or rail their first time they fall backwards. and look at the end of the rail, thats key too. beyond that all i can tell you is practice on small stuff, either youll get better or youll have more specific questions to ask
Feb 13 2010 8:14PM
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koffee412
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actually i dont knw wat happens i kinda black out when i fall
Feb 13 2010 8:15PM
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ECfreeski3
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also it will help to have some speed. obviously dont mach into the thing but be going a good pace
Feb 13 2010 8:16PM
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chardi
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yea for sure.  my biggest problem was i would fall back.  just keep thinking as you approach the box to pop full 90 degrees and keep your forward

also, more speed helps, as long as you keep your weight centered you wont fall and you be on the box for a longer time so you wont have to worry as much about balancing, and keep looking at the end of the box, it'll help keep your weight forward.

sparknotes: Keep your weight forward

Feb 13 2010 8:17PM
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chardi
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i just said everthing you guys did

just took me a longer time to type it. so... ^^^^those.

Feb 13 2010 8:19PM
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ECfreeski3
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no its worth repeating! LEAN FORWARD LEAN FORWARD LEAN FORWARD
Feb 13 2010 8:23PM
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koffee412
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but i dont fall back because i always end up like 5-10 feet to the side of the box
Feb 13 2010 8:26PM
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ECfreeski3
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you end up 5 or ten feet away from the box? how does that happen?
Feb 13 2010 8:28PM
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jshe
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this was my problem when i started boxes and rails

1. start out with a box thats a little high off the ground, but not by alot

2. you have to get over the universal fear of catching an edge and flipping forward and crashing your face off the rail

3. you never catch an edge, its a fact

4. dont think about leaning just keep doing it until it comes naturally, thats how i learned it

it took me about 10 failed attempts by falling on my ass but eventually it came naturally

anyways thats how i learned it

Feb 13 2010 8:29PM
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koffee412
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dude i dont even knw
Feb 13 2010 8:29PM
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nickyp
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Well the first step is widening your stance, to stabilise yourself. Then get a friend to film you, to see what happens when you fall, and then shift your weight to correct it.


Just hitting boxes over and over, you'll get a feel for what works and what doesnt. It'll come eventually.
Feb 13 2010 8:30PM
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207
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My best guess is that your popping onto the box unbalanced. If you mountain has a baby park with a ride-on box, go there, and just practice sliding.
Feb 13 2010 8:31PM
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koffee412
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thats the best advice so far
Feb 13 2010 8:31PM
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Stickity
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my sister did this and cleared a box and got mild whiplash
Feb 13 2010 8:34PM
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koffee412
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thanks that will definetely help me grind
Feb 13 2010 8:35PM
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Squid.
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When I started hitting boxes for the first time I just had trouble fully committing and leaning forward. You just have to find a really easy flat box with no gap on and keep hiking it until you get it. Get a decent amount of speed, aim for the box so its right in between your legs, pop up and do a full 90 on, and slide it with your legs apart and your weight forward.
Feb 13 2010 8:45PM
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Shabangarang
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look at the end of the rail it will help you balance
Feb 13 2010 8:50PM
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ECfreeski3
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if youre really a novice at it and youre just getting used to sliding boxes, just start by going over it straight (dont worry about the 15 year old douches in the park haha) then get used to pivoting 90 degrees so youre sliding it the regular way just at the end of the box, then start doing that earlier and earlier til youre used to it, and you can just slide the box normally. that was a bad description but you get the idea
Feb 13 2010 8:51PM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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1. speed

2. wide stance

3. pop hard

4. weight over front foot

Feb 13 2010 8:53PM
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Stickity
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i can turn onto it and slide fine but my dismounts suck
due to rentals i want to land forward (also to do more hits)
tips to land forward?
do i not turn my shoulders, only my feet?
please help
Feb 13 2010 8:58PM
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123456521
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If u want to land forward then you need to open ur front foot towards the end of the box then turn ur shoulders spinning ur body back straight. When i first started boxes, i had the same trouble. I would spin to much on the box and couldnt level back out to land forward. So open ur front foot, then turn ur shoulders and u should have it. Its all about committing to it and being confident about it. If u dont think ull do it, chances are u wont
Feb 13 2010 9:10PM
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Stickity
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i don't really have any problems with committing because of skating but thanks for the tip, i hadn't thought of that
i'll try it tomorrow
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Feb 13 2010 9:28PM
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the.cheat
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dont carve on the takeoff
Feb 13 2010 11:04PM
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CrunkNugget
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firstly, go to trick tip cult

secondly, speed helps a lot, the less time you spend on a rail, the less time you have to balance there, so even if you start to fall, your skis will probably hit the snow first, and you can ride out.
Feb 13 2010 11:09PM
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ECfreeski3
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what he said, but i think its worth noting that 1) that can sometimes be a bit harder for people to do when theyre first learning, cause its easy to not worry about your spinning momentum and just come out switch when youre first just getting used to it. and 2) you can land switch even without tails (especially since im assuming youre learning on a small rail) so you dont really need to worry about that too much, might help to just learn to slide the rail and come off switch or whatever, then as you learn youll get better and be able to come off regular or whatever you want
Feb 13 2010 11:30PM
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.peter
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don't think too much.
decide what you're gonna do ahead of time.
commit
roll onto the rail/box don't jump o or you'll probably fall think of it like sliding on ice... just glide.
and DON'T take you're eyes off the end of the rail.
Feb 14 2010 12:00AM
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ECfreeski3
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yeah thats the tough part of dfd's you just gotta be ready for the flat cause it can kick you off, just gotta shock absorb with your knees
Feb 14 2010 12:57AM
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jeremyo13
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wow
some legit advice for this guy instead of the usual ass rape
+k for this thread
Feb 14 2010 2:05AM
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magic_raven
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Commiting is a huge thing. Visualize yourself following through on what you are about to do. If you have hesitations you will probably end up falling.
Watch other people ride, watch what they do right or what they do wrong. If someone crashes you learn what not to do and if someone styles it, you can see what you have to do.
Comfort. Being nervous hurts your ability to commit.
Feb 14 2010 2:17AM
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