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SirClancelot
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I realize there are multiple threads involving superfeet insoles in boots but none of them really answered my question, so please don't come back saying "Use the search bar n00b".

I bought some superfeet (the black, skinny ones) because my SPK Kreation insoles were too flat to support my foot well and I was getting pain. So I put my superfeet in and skied them for a day but due to the thinness of the superfeet under your toes and around the ball of your foot (this is consistent with all thicknesses of superfeet), I suddenly had wayy too much room in the toebox of my boots than I wanted. It seemed to hurt the responsiveness of my boots as well as my skiing in general.

So, I thought I'd put the original insoles back into the boot and then put the superfeet on top of those. Doing this obviously solves the problem of having too much room in my toebox and it's pretty comfortable but something just feels off. I was wondering if anyone has had this problem with their superfeet and/or knows a solution to filling up the space in the toe box while having superfeet in?
Feb 13 2010 12:17AM
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j_hamborg
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As I was reading I was thinking, he should just put the original soles under his superfeet. I know that SOLE makes some very nice thicker beds. How much of an arch does your original bed have? that could be an issure if it has to much. If it has a lot of arch (for a original bed) go to your local shop and they should have some old footbeds laying around with next to no arch.
Feb 13 2010 1:26PM
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onenerdykid
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Good boot-fitters usually have some type of shim/spacer to help take up excess room in a boot.  Part of what a footbed does is shorten and narrow your foot, so they actually create a lot of room in most cases.  Your boot-fitter should have Bontex shims that can be trimmed to live under your footbed.  They are firmer than the stock insole and completely flat.  This will allow excess space to be taken up without upsetting the alignment of your footbed.
Feb 13 2010 1:34PM
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j_hamborg
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^^This
Feb 13 2010 1:41PM
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SirClancelot
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Alright, thanks so much. I'm planning on going to see a boot fitter just haven't gotten around to it. And i tried to ski with my superfeet on top of my original insoles (which, to answer your question are ridiculously thin) and my boots were super unresponsive, the alignment felt off, and my rail control was wayyyy off. But anyway, thanks for the feedback, +k.
Feb 13 2010 7:05PM
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SirClancelot
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I meant my original insoles are super flat, they're actually kinda thick. Well thicker than superfeet in the toe box.
Feb 13 2010 7:11PM
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gnarles.
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get a boot fitter to fit your boot with them

Feb 13 2010 7:47PM
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axebiker
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You could try the green Superfeet insoles.  They're the thickest, and I use them in almost off of my ski boots.
Feb 14 2010 12:21AM
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SirClancelot
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Aren't they thicker at the heel though too?
Feb 14 2010 11:12AM
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axebiker
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I'm sure they are. 
Feb 14 2010 7:39PM
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SirClancelot
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Yeahh... I'm hesitant to try those because i dunno if theyll set my heel too high so that it's not being held by the pocket.
Feb 14 2010 11:04PM
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Ftacnik
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Anyone ever get cramps with there super feet? Do they just take a while to break in?
Feb 14 2010 11:10PM
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Ryno
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Yeah a boot shim is a good option in this case. A lot of people who buy boots without footbeds find that their boots are too big when they use the footbeds so the shim is a simple way to take up some of the extra volume in a boot.

Also, you could try a different type of Superfeet. I think the blue version is a touch thicker then the black, and the green thicker then the blue so you can always try that as well.
Feb 14 2010 11:13PM
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axebiker
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Yeah, in some boots, but not all. Sometimes it forces the arch to an odd spot. Hurts like a mother too!!
Feb 15 2010 11:26AM
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Ftacnik
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Yeah my old boots used to give me cramps... Havnt tried superfeet in my new boots
Feb 15 2010 2:28PM
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onenerdykid
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The Green Superfeet won't really upset the heel pocket of your boot, especially with how much room you say you have in it right now.  The only boots that are tough to fit wider-heeled footbeds in are plug race boots, and even then you can grind the plastic of the boot or off the footbed chassis to fit it properly.

The arch cramping someone mentioned above is very common.  Your foot is basically telling you that your everyday footwear is allowing your feet/arches to collapse and tighten up.  The pain is caused by your foot adjusting to the arch support (which is a good thing, you just need to get used to it).  So, you can either put footbeds in your everyday shoes so you don't have to adjust to them every time you go skiing or you can wear your ski boots at home for a bit each night.  I suggest getting a footbed for your everyday shoes, it helps out a ton.
Feb 15 2010 2:47PM
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axebiker
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My problem with Superfeet is how they line up on my arch in some applications - they seem a little bit forward in some cases.  I should try some other ones, but I usually need the greens to take up volume.
Feb 15 2010 6:28PM
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headlight
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best solution is get real orthodics from a bootfitter...or

get some cardboard put on your shell's boot board either from a shop that carries this material or try it yourself from cutting up some cardboard. Take out the bootboard first and then trim to fit. Some shops glue it down anfter a couple test rides...

or buy a shoe insole from a department store / drug store show store and trim to fit either into the liner or on the shell's boot board..

or cut cardboard to fit the sole of the boot liner and put it under the superfeet support.

or if u have a heatfit / thermo fit liner that u heat up to fit to your feet, run a heat cycle and refit them... they come back a little bit - maybe u got go to a shop for that or figure out how to run a hot hair dryer into the liner...

or wash out your liners  - not in the washing machine but with warm or hot water in the laundry tub or with the showerhead from the shower... u dont need to use soap but the water will rinse out the sweaty salt and the liner will come back to life. Hot water may shrink the liner or have the thermo fit come back. BUT it takes a week to dry out unless u got a boot dryer.

or wear thicker socks...

Generally the the cuff/ankle and instep arch buckles count the most for support and control people can usually ski well without the toebox fitting tight.    good luck.

Feb 15 2010 9:37PM
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Ryno
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Superfeet are a generic mold though, designed to work well for most people but not all. It sounds like you might have a short and high arch if you feel like the superfeet are too long/forward. If thats the case, I would suggest that you try getting a total custom foot bed that is designed to support your exact arch, that should fix the problem.
Feb 16 2010 1:14PM
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