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Help me think of my perfect ski that I am looking for...

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kingsskier
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OK so I was looking at buying some Moment M1s on TGR but got outbid.
Basically what I am looking for is a STIFF charging ski (much like the M1) preferably a full twin. I want to see if I can utilize it in the park. I am 6'7" 200-210ish. So I want to try to use it in the park to see if it will be a better park ski for me or it will at least be worth a shot in my mind. Turn radius doesnt really matter in the park anyway.
So after some thinking I came up with Karmas and original Ants... But neither of those are like the M1s. Basically I want a similar ski to the M1 but full twin...
Does this ski exist? Also, cheaper is better. So older is good lol.
+K for help or anything that isnt laughing at me haha
Feb 5 2010 1:51AM
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Twig
Posts: 6407 - Karma: 60,033
So I started off saying:
ON3P Cease and Desist
ON3P Wrenegade
But then I read it again and you want a stiff as balls + long ski to use in the park?
Volkl Karma/Bridge (185) were stiff skis, the Bridge is stiffer from memory.
Rossignol S6/Steeze (186) might also be an option (not as stiff but solid and fatter).
You are almost a foot taller and 90 pounds heavier than me so I might not be best placed to give advice. My mate is similar size to you and likes his S6s. I remember feeling that Bridges were just ridiculously stiff myself but i weigh less. Hope that helps a bit.
Feb 5 2010 5:31AM
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iffe
Posts: 984 - Karma: 120
Volkl Gotama is pretty damn stiff.
Feb 5 2010 6:56AM
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j_hamborg
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I found the Rossi s5 fairly stiff. I have no idea how stiff these m1's are so I couldn't compare them.
Feb 5 2010 8:51AM
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flatland
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Faction Royales.  http://factionskis.com/gear/skis/royale/183

On the website they are called a "medium stiff flex" but talk to anyone whos ridden them and theyll tell you that they are way stiffer.

Feb 5 2010 9:12AM
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kingsskier
Posts: 6212 - Karma: 2,100
Thanks for the suggestions I will look into them. The Factions though are way too wide for what I want to use them for.
Anyone ski Moment Garbones? They are the new M1 apparently
Feb 5 2010 10:17AM
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babaganoush
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Here's a review on the Garbones

https://newschoolers.com/web/content/reviews/action/read/id/1207/

hope this helps
Feb 5 2010 10:22AM
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Twig
Posts: 6407 - Karma: 60,033
I'm a bit confused.
Do you want a long / stiff ski to use in the park, or do you want a big mountain ski to ski big mountain that you can occasionally use in the park?
Feb 5 2010 10:24AM
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kingsskier
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I want to try taking a big long stiff charging big mountain ski and use it as a park ski. Thats why I want basically a full twin tip Garbone/M1
Feb 5 2010 10:26AM
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Gnome_in_Gnarnia
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Garbones. Shoguns are kinda stiff, but I don't know about using them in the park.
Feb 5 2010 11:24AM
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kingsskier
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Im fuckin huge. Everything feels like a noodle to me. The only issue with a charging ski is how heavy they are usually. But I want to test it out to see if I like it. If not, I have a good ski to fly on and I am a super aggressive skier
Feb 5 2010 12:49PM
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Balto
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these are the first 2 that come to mind, the C&D will do better in deeper snow, but the wrens blast through anything in their way
Feb 5 2010 12:51PM
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Chaka
Posts: 424 - Karma: 79
4frnt VCT maybe... It comes in a 189 and has a medium to stiffer flex... Pretty basic ski but should be able to handle park and pow pretty well... Also the Turbo has same dimensions but with minimal rocker... There are quite a few Mid-fats that came out in the past couple years that could fit what you want for relatively cheap.
Feb 5 2010 3:49PM
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Gnome_in_Gnarnia
Posts: 163 - Karma: 13
Check out Bluehouse and Fortitude. I don't know much about Bluehouse but I've talked to a Fortitude employee and they pride themselves on stiff-ass indestructible skis.
Feb 5 2010 5:16PM
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Elephant_Snot
Posts: 157 - Karma: 5
all of those will do more than survive the groomers. more of all mountain skis. get hellbents or something
Feb 5 2010 5:32PM
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Matty_C
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 236

^he wants a super stiff big mtn ski and you suggest hellbents lol.

if you can find some movement gladiators from last year they come in a 193, stiff, around 90 underfoot. likely to be difficult to come by but perfect for your needs.

Feb 5 2010 6:00PM
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mmallender.
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if you are looking for a super stiff park ski what about the amplid c7? it comes in a 185 and it has titanium in it to make it stiffer? from what i have read that is what you want?
Feb 5 2010 6:38PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Got your ski here. Check evo-gear or steap and cheap for a good deal. Got mine brand new for less than $300.

Ninthward Rory Silva Pro 183.
Fat, stiff, full-twin, big mountain, a little park, anything you want. 113mm underfoot. This is what the website says about them:

"If you're feeling like screaming off rocks all day or ripping big lines from peaks right into the park, then this 140/113/130 sidecut 8.5 mm ABS sidewall microlaminate poplar core is the choice for you. Like all the SFS's, these are meant to crush all powder super booters while keeping their park versatility. The 183 is slightly larger so the veteran or aggressive young skier can deal with the dementia of powerful skiing. The 183 is made with killer materials like the PA 12 sublimated top sheet to protect the graphics from wear & tear, and the IS silkscreened base with 45 HRC edges to ginsu the crud. This ski is said to be "possibly the best ski on the planet" in European magazines. Turning radius: 24 meters"

I bought them thinking they'd be a ski I use maybe a dozen or so days if it snows lots, but I like em on everything from hard-pack to park and have used them every day except for early season rock days.
Feb 6 2010 1:45AM
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Matty_C
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dude is 6'7", i think 183 is not gonna cut the mustard
Feb 6 2010 3:04PM
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dbstar
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maybe the Armada ANT, very stiff, most really stiff charging skis are made for charging and are not twin tips as they lose a little bit of their stability, so I would recommend checking out the Rossi Phantom Pro super sick big mountain ski, comes in 198, and also the Dynastar Legend Pro XXL
Feb 6 2010 3:25PM
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iFail
Posts: 2066 - Karma: 65

HAHAHA

I GOT IT!:
198 SOLLY XW LABS

Get those.  Normal sidecut and camber, long, stiff, and lighter than some of the skis you've mentioned.  At 6'7" they will be really easy to ski all mountain, and may be a bit long for park...but you can do it!  If you ended up getting a longer park ski, it will seriously lack all mountain performance at your size(well, at anybodies size, but you especially).  The Rossi ski like them has the B-Squad-ish tip shape, so Labs would do better in park than them.

Feb 6 2010 9:32PM
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