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Olympics coming up (SO STOKED, GO AERIALS!)

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SirStai
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So the Olympics are coming up, and I know we´re all really stoked on AERLIALS! FUCK YEAH!

But seriously, I have some questions.
How many people are active within this sport?
How come it´s in the Olympics and not Jibbing (yeah I know, tradition, but it´s still retarded), and do we even want to be there?
How much money do these people get (from FIS and national ski organizations and so on)?

The more I think about it, the more retarded it gets, the way these couple of guys get treated compared to one of the fastest growing sports out there. I´m from Norway so that´s really all I can say anything about, but we get NO recognition over here, and NO money. Last year, moguls got 1.000.000NOK from NSF (The Norwegian Ski Association), and we got 0.
Feb 3 2010 10:55AM
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COskier
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Don't talk shit on aerials, it just comes off as envy. They make our sport look like the bunny hill. Moguls is sick too and tons of kids out there do moguls. Freeskiing will get there, just wait. It's still a very young sport.
Feb 3 2010 12:18PM
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garrets
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you sir deserve some karma because I agree with everything u said here
Feb 3 2010 12:37PM
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johanblaze
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DYLAN FURGESON
Feb 3 2010 12:38PM
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Alkyy
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well aerials is the most watched winter olymic event.... i think that has something to do with it.

Side note GO MATT DEPETERS!- its nuts actually watching them in person, if you dont like it you at least have to respect it

Feb 3 2010 12:40PM
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FoxtrotSport
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Wait, isn't the most watched ice skating?
Feb 3 2010 12:43PM
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SirStai
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WOW, I honestly did not know this. Aerials is NOTHING here in Norway

But they don´t make freeskiers look like they have no talent. You can´t just compare how many spins and flips we do and say they are more talented. It´s to completely different things.
Feb 3 2010 12:45PM
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COskier
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Well, really, all we are is the latest iteration of aerials. Grabbing your skis and wearing bigger jackets does not a harder sport make. The fact is aerials skiers have achieved a much more polished version of their discipline wherein they go bigger and perform harder tricks. The reason that freeskiing is cool though, is that it gives a much larger group of people the chance to push themselves on skis and have fun without the exclusivity that accompanies the facilities and training neccessary to practice aerials. So what i think it comes down to, as stated before, is that freeskiing just needs to keep growing and progressing and it will be in the olympics eventually. Do not bring down the other skiing disciplines in the meantime.

However, I think a valid argument may be why did skiercross get inducted to the olympics before skiing? I know that the IOC likes timed events, but there are relatively very few competitors in the sport compared to freeskiing and, the number of resorts that have skiercross venues to train on is very small. The fact that Daron Rhalves was seemingly an instant top competitor in skiercross I think shows that the level of competition in this sport is not at the olympic level. I would guess there is no racer/ mogul skier/aerialist that could come to freeskiing be 1/20th as successful. So, I think freeskiing is at least more ready for the olympics than skiercross.
Feb 3 2010 1:05PM
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Uah
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X games, well Kevin Rolland specifically proved that skiing has soo much right, even more right than snowboarding to be in the olympic halfpipe. Like first time 3 doubles in 5 hits in xgames history. Just pisses me off that racers still have so much influence over our sport.
Feb 3 2010 1:07PM
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Holte
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I disagree with the point about aerials being harder. Anybody who has thrown a 3 knows that it's easier to pencil out a 360 than it is to throw a grabbed 3. I'm not saying that what the top tier aerialists do isn't hard, but I don't think it's any harder than what the top tier big air freeskiers do. Freeskiers just have a set of requirements (ie. grabbing) that makes it too difficult to regularly throw triple or quadruple flips.

But regardless, for the couple weeks of the Olympics, I'm going to be super stoked on what the Olympic athletes are managing to do on skis, whether it's aerials, super G, moguls, or cross country. Those guys can do some crazy stuff.
Feb 3 2010 1:16PM
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MayorWest
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i personally love watching arials the shit so fucking crazy. i think its on the same level of freestyle just more traditional gynastics realated tricks
i know several people who are high level gymnasts that throw tripple fulls and double brannys on tramps but cant land a cork 7 to save there life
same goes the other way i know many kids that can do dub flats dub corks crazy cor 12s all grabbed on the tramp but cant even do a full.
i really dont think you can compare the 2.
there both fucking nuts, one is rooted in tradition and gymnastics and the other is rooted in the younger generation and the do whatever you want attitude wich i personally love being as i dont have to have "proper form and vertical rotations i just have to grab my ski and land with style.
but i sure give me respect to those aerialist, they might not be able to pretzel and down rail or throw a rodeo five japan but i sure as hell cant do a double full on skis, or a single full for that matter
Feb 3 2010 1:50PM
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baaangthat
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rooting for dylan ferguson
Feb 3 2010 1:53PM
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Malcolm
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aerials are actually pretty cool to watch.

Feb 3 2010 1:56PM
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Madeye
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it takes serious preparation to be able to do aerials, and some balls too.
Freeskiing will be there 2014, guarantee it, with the popularity it got from Xgames... and Dew Tour.
Feb 3 2010 2:07PM
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johnnypsunami
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as much as ppl hate on aerials, its pretty impressive what they do.

I've always wondered why there hasn't been anyone transfer from aerials to freeskiing. I mean I know the tricks are different but you'd think those guys would have such a solid foundation to come to freeskiing and just dominate jumping.

Feb 3 2010 2:43PM
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SirStai
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Can aerialists do wallrides, hit rails and one foot ledges, go stomp tricks of cliffs and bc booters and do 4 and a half rotations with double invert while grabbing? No. So I would say our sport is just as hard, especially if you consider how many different elements it involves. Easy to get good if your doing the same things on the same jump day in and day out...

But seriously, roughly estimated, how many aerialists are there in the world today?
Feb 3 2010 4:26PM
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t_rob
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Feb 3 2010 4:30PM
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Jimmy.
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curling is a dumb sport.
Feb 3 2010 4:33PM
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JahSpriggs
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aerials is diving, any body on the chinese team that cant make it in summer olympic diving team, gets demoted to trampoline and then arial skiing, because you don't need to know how to ski to be an arialist, First you do it a million times into water, then you drop straight in on snow, do the hand and arm manuvers and land flat and ski straight out.....FAGGOTS!
Feb 3 2010 4:39PM
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Fischer-Addicted
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I like almost all the skiing events at the Olympics. Freestyle skiing is really young and has been influenced by just about all the Olympic skiing events. Maybe if you took a break from afterbanging in the park and learned how to rip an FIS course or ski moguls or do aerials you'd realize that they absolutely deserve to be there. And don't worry, Freeskiing will get there sooner or later.
Feb 3 2010 4:40PM
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ninjax6792
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I don't think you should speak, while curling looks obscure and sounds really stupid (sweeping ice lol), in fact it's pretty fucking fun. It's basicaly a phat game of knockout and takes more skill than one would think. I don't think any sport can be classified as "dumb," especially if you havn't tried it out.
Feb 3 2010 4:45PM
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JahJahBinks
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Fucking athl33ts
Feb 3 2010 4:46PM
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freestyler540
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Aerials are sick. These guy train for years to get perfect form in seemingly impossible tricks. Also, most people forgot, Newschool CAME FROM AERIALS. Not random guys pulling backflips in their back yard. We owe them a lot.

I know people that are in the process of qualifying for the Olympics, the chances are slim to none, but they are trying hard.
Feb 3 2010 4:52PM
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nellyyy
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Spriggs, you really never cease to amaze me as a skier with so much talent who makes such ignorant disrespectful comments. If you'd ever even done the simplest of real aerials jumps you would appreciate how much work and talent it takes to make it to the top of that sport - just as much as in park skiing. Yes, the Chinese team for the most part doesn't know how to ski, but the chinese girls can do good triples. its really sad how such a highly accomplished park skier such as yourself can be such an ignorant dick, thinking the beat shit you do is so much harder and cooler and not worthy of being called a "FAGGOT."
Feb 3 2010 5:11PM
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chicken
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Don't hate on aerials, if you are going to hate, hate on skicross!

Skicross is racing.
Skicross is a "freestyle event"
Skicross took ski halfpipes place in 2010
Skicross athletes took olympic team spots from real freestylers.


Feb 3 2010 5:17PM
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JahSpriggs
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Aerials is GAY i thought it was before I was a "Pro" and Ill think it is long after I am "Pro" Shit is not skiing, It is Diving on SKIS.... I have very Little respect for them, The only respect I do have for them Is that somehow they dont BLow their Knees out everytime they land on thier asses on that chopped landing
Feb 3 2010 5:25PM
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chicken
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Is hitting rails rollerblading on skis?
what about when I do a rodeo of a diving board? Is that skiing on diving boards?





Feb 3 2010 5:37PM
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fratskier69
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about 1 billion= the number of asians training for the olympics who arent good enough for ping pong

but seriously i would say its probably the number of pros are  the only aerial "skiers"

a skier is someone who is versatile
Feb 3 2010 5:37PM
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panojibber
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Word, I have been saying this for a looooong time.

I have complete 100% respect for aerialists because its mad hard to do what they do, but its not skiing.
Feb 3 2010 6:54PM
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fragglemuffin
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My buddy Hans will be repping WNY in aerials!
Feb 3 2010 7:17PM
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Caveman.
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You barely have to be able to ski to be a park rat either.
Feb 3 2010 8:15PM
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Download-My-Apps
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didnt read all the posts. But iknow a few kids who do aireals. but nordic ski jumping? theres like one club in all of canada
Feb 3 2010 8:31PM
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Smuffy
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you can say that all you want, but doesnt change the fact that people like dylan ferguson, and my bro matt depeters both shred the park. (both competing in olympic aerials) matt was winning rail jams at my local mountain before he even got into aerials, and he still rips them like a boss.

as for money, they dont make shit. since matt is from around where i come from, theres fundraisers all the time cause he cant afford anything. but you are right, its a small dying sport with very few people joining it.
Feb 3 2010 8:31PM
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COskier
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Wow, until you made a second post that showed how brilliant you are I legitimately thought this post was a joke, seeing as you pretty much described slopestyle skiing perfectly.

"because you don't need to know how to ski to be an arialist" - Have you been in a park recently? Also, there are kids that rip park that ski only 500 foot tall mountains in the midwest as well as all the skiers in pennsylvania. Hardly what Tanner Hall would call real skiing in real mountains.

"First you do it a million times into water, then you drop straight in on snow"- Umm seriously? Every single one of the top slope competitors hits water ramps, I bet even you have.

"do the hand and arm manuvers and land flat and ski straight out.....FAGGOTS!"- You mean olympian afterbang?

Don't be he guy judging what is or isn't skiing because you sound awfully like the old race coaches who say freeskiing is not skiing. If you do it on skis and you are sliding on snow, you are skiing.
Feb 3 2010 8:47PM
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SHampson
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Cuz Spriggs is totally a park rat dood!
Feb 3 2010 8:49PM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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Agreed and i think we need to think twice before we wish that our sport becomes a corporate,  and controlled, olympic event. I dont really think whether or not freeksing is in the olympics is going to effect how much fun me or you have on the hill, so why worry. What exactly great is going to come from it being an olympic event ? who knows
Feb 3 2010 8:55PM
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Smuffy
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im sure many of us east coast kids would be happy to give up our park rat lifestyle to shred some pow. oh wait... its all ice over here.
Feb 3 2010 8:58PM
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goombastompa
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The main reason that there isnt any freeskiing, not even halfpipe, in the olympics is because its a judged event. And the olympic commity or whatever was even hesitant to even allow snowboard halfpipe because of the potential controversy that comes with judging. So right now aerials and skier cross are the closest events to freesking the olympics will have.
Feb 3 2010 9:06PM
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Caveman.
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Never said he was brah, just throwing that out there. Who's to say what's skiing and what isn't.
Feb 3 2010 9:51PM
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popNfresh44
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the shit that some aerialists pull is straight batshit crazy. but then again, the jump they hit is basically a launchpad that goes straight up; most of the athletes aren't even skiers, they are gymnasts who have learned how to do maneuvers on straight skis, on one kind of jump. much respect for them, but they are not really skiers.
Feb 3 2010 9:55PM
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_steffen_
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ice sakting is the most judged event ever but im am positive well be in by 2018
Feb 3 2010 9:57PM
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oreopancake.
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I always thought it would be hockey.
Feb 3 2010 10:06PM
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JahSpriggs
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Here Is why I do not consider Aerials to be much of a skiing sport,
In park skiing, You need to have good edge control and speed control, and you must be ready to hit any style jump out there, no jump is the same, no park is the same! You have to know how to land forwards and backwards. and you can do what ever the fuck you wanna do, when you wanna do it.

Where as in aerials, the areal site is built to Specific FIS standards consisting of 5 jumps always measured out to the same degrees and height , they then put in starting stakes to show where you need to start from, everything is perfectly measured out, never different other than where you are. Also they put restrictions on the sport.....can't do quads, and you cant do a trick you haven't performed in a OFFICIAL practice session much less been certified from waterramps. No freedom, nothing, robots on skis.

Im not even gonna start to talk about Backcountry, and how unknown and uncontrollable it can be.
(racing, pipe, skiercross, big mnt ect all have those SKIING aspects as well, Pipe being the most controlled but still mad edge n speed controll needed and more than one hit)

I haven't learned any of my dubs on a water ramp, I have thrown them all on snow first, and I can do that because our sport is free, If i say, well i think i can land this today, but have never tried it before, no one can tell me, "Well you haven't gotten it 100 times first into water so your not qualified to do it"....that is the bogus FIS part of aerials....

Would our sport still survive without Olympics? Yes it is. but ask your self, without the olympics would aerials survive...I think not.

That being said I do have a lil respect for them because they are going so high in the sky, But this sport is a good reason of why I am not 100% for "Newschool skiing" being part of the olympics if FIS is in controll. FIS finds ways to regulate sports, and making them the same bland and boring shit every year and that is something we don't need.

sry for calling them faggots. Im sure only some actually are.


Feb 3 2010 10:08PM
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Rime.
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Amen. 
Feb 3 2010 10:22PM
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Jamestown
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Curling babes are the top of the food chain in my book.
Feb 3 2010 10:34PM
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Smuffy
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dude you are completely wrong. skier cross is not judged. simple as that. but both moguls and aerials are judged, no different than in halfpipe and slopestyle, and by the same criteria. landing, difficulty, amplitude etc... so your argument is wrong wrong wrong.
Feb 3 2010 10:42PM
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skier_boy26
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Your reading comprehension is wrong, wrong, wrong.

His assertion that skier X is in the Olympics is because it ISNT judged, which reduces the need to have criterion, of which there always seems to be controversy. Aerials and moguls have been around for a good while, so despite their subjective evaluation, they are already in place. Pipe skiing is not, mostly because the FIS is fucking poison, despite their efforts to have an FIS tour. Spriggs is right (in my opinion), and quite frankly, many of the OGs of freeskiing were ex-mogul skiers... in part because FIS has had their tight grip on the balls of moguls and shit.
Feb 3 2010 10:52PM
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Download-My-Apps
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has nothing to do with it? ps why do you care what some trend chasing people think?

Freeskiing and freestyle are 2 competely different sports. People like snowboarding and not skiing for the same reason they like skateboarding and not rollerblading. The media hypes up one as rebellous and the other to be for old people.

And one step back, respect the roots man.
Feb 3 2010 11:02PM
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jmBEERY
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everyone in this thread sounds smart
Feb 3 2010 11:02PM
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Caveman.
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Who the fuck cares dude. Dont worry about what people think. People shouldn't be on some kind of constant mission to impress everyone with what they do.
Feb 3 2010 11:13PM
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Finbow
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Despite a lot of the BS in this thread....

Everyone really needs to realize have a fellow freeskier going to the Olympics this year, competing in Aerials. Everyone should be stoked and route for DYLAN FERGUSON. Super fucking legit, check his shit with 4bi9 and RMU Skis.


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