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Anyone else think Avatar wasn't good ?

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TZP
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I was really quite disappointed with this movie. Couldnt care less for the characters, boring, extremely predictable and at times ridiculous (unobtainium ? really ? ), and all around poorly written. Sure it was pretty, but still I'd say it's a really well made bad movie. I really hope it doesnt win the oscar for best picture (best director I could understand though).
Feb 1 2010 9:33AM
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Blandct
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yea dude i thought the story was pretty weak. I saw fern gully, you know?
but it was beautiful and looked really good and an insane amount of work went into it.
Feb 1 2010 11:23AM
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Tasche
Posts: 5422 - Karma: 99
unobtaiumn is a science and science fiction kind of inside joke for any material with properties that have not yet been discovered. I kind of hated it at first too but after looking into the idea behind it I like it a lot more. It is a room temperature super conductor, which brings up a lot more questions than the movie addresses. Like the flying islands, those are held up by magnetic fields, but metal crafts can just fly around them.

That being said I though the movie was pretty shitty and I am still surprised that people love it so much. The visuals were all it had going for it and it still looked like shit in a lot of places, but hey that's just me.
Feb 1 2010 12:51PM
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nightscraper
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everything about the movie pissed me off.
Feb 1 2010 1:36PM
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rj.
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hater orgy
Feb 1 2010 4:12PM
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do.a.rodeo
Posts: 270 - Karma: -30
yes . absolutely. It was a really well-made, mediocre movie. I cant believe how average the characters and acting were.
Feb 1 2010 8:47PM
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skier_boy26
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I hope it wins BP to piss off all the haters.

Tomorrow it passes Titanic, which alleviates some of the hate towards Titanic, and exacerbates the hate towards Avatar.


Feb 1 2010 11:58PM
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KAS
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It's fun to watch in 3d imax, but besides that it's not that great. A lot of times during the movie I just couldn't believe some of the things that were said, it was just so cheesy or bad or whatever. I still liked it but it was mainly because of the effects
Feb 2 2010 1:34AM
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panojibber
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Avatar isn't a movie you can worry too much about plot, character or whatever for - its just fun to watch, and if you can just let your expectations of a plot-twisting deep-character movie then its absolutely awesome to watch.

A lot of people get too caught up in dissecting the movie to actually enjoy it - that's anyone's first mistake when trying to get more out of film, art, or music. It is what it is, and you have to appreciate it for that.
Feb 2 2010 9:32AM
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vincepru
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i just loved it because it was so visually pleasing to me. just watch it and let your mind wander, its not a movie you watch to dissect and analyze.

my favorite part was in the beginning when the guy gets lost in the forest and the girl saves him and they walk through the bioluminescent forest. that was really aesthetically pleasing to me.
Feb 2 2010 12:44PM
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T-Holt
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This, I loved the aesthetic element. The story and acting were mediocre, but it was visually stunning.
Feb 2 2010 12:59PM
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thebeesknees
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it was amazing.  it was your mom that wasnt good.
Feb 2 2010 1:11PM
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eheath
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I love people like you who are so damn arrogant about hollywood movies. If you critique any hollywood movie like you have, then wouldn't star wars be dumb? since its made up and predicable? Unless its a banger movie like the matrix(which people still argue is stupid, etc) its obviously going to be dumb and predicable if you take the movie that way.

OP, id like to hear what you think is a "good" movie and why it was good and do it in an unbiased way.
Feb 2 2010 1:19PM
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TZP
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Take a movie like this year's Star Trek. It was a big budget action flick, yet it still had a decent story and characters which made it interesting, unlike movies like Avatar or Transformers that were all visuals and no story.
Feb 2 2010 1:20PM
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Tasche
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If you are going to spend 500 million dollars on a movie, you should at the very least have a well thought out and original plot. How can you even compare Star Wars to Avatar. They are on completely different levels.

And I know I am not the OP but some of my favorite movies are (in no particular order):

Fight Club (I know cliche as fuck but awesome move, the way almost every scene works on 2 levels no matter how many times you watch it. And I hated the book, that was pure movie)

Contact (Don't know why I like this one so much, well thought out and probably the best approximation of what real contact with aliens would be.)

Children of Men (just like the cinematography in this one, this is a great move to watch on a massive TV with a rocking sound system. The long no cut shots are awesome. I hated the black chick though)

Good Will Hunting (probably my favorite ever)

The Matrix (changed movies IMO, blew my mind first time I saw it)

Brave Heart, The Patriot, 300, Sin City, etc. I love all those type of movies.

Then no necessarily "good" movies but Grandmas Boy, Role Models etc, I like those quotable movies. I did not like the Hangover however.

Anyway Eheath, I am thinking about getting a black cobra, just to go around your neck.
Feb 2 2010 1:53PM
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eheath
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I can agree with that whole list of movies.


I really im just pushing buttons, devils advocate ya know?
Feb 2 2010 2:25PM
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TZP
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That I could compare to Avatar: 300 and Sin City

They were both extremely entertaining and innovative visually, yet they still had decent storylines, good characters, etc.
Feb 2 2010 5:22PM
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no_steeze
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i loved the visuals and stunning animation for the first hour and then like 2 hrs in it was terrible...the plot was ridiculously lame, straight out of a disney movie, and it lasted way way too long. it was cool visually but the plot was awful
Feb 2 2010 8:23PM
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TheQuailman
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Fuck CGI. CGI ruins movies especially when its abused like it was in Avatar.  If there was no CGI than Avatar would be 1000 times better.  Pretty much Cameron said fuck acting, fuck a good story, fuck a good pace, we'll just have trippy computer graphics and try to tell a story while we blow the dumb audience's minds with cool looking shit.  Obviously people are too dumb nowadays to understand what acting or storytelling is, so 'best picture' movies can just have neat colors to win awards and have people sucking this movies dick.

Avatar blew, its hype is a fucking joke, and the fact that it got nominated for whatever non-tech oscars is a joke-best picture haahahahahaha shit was stupid.

Feb 3 2010 6:25PM
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skier_boy26
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It's the modern day Star Wars. As I said earlier, I hope it wins BP just to shit on people like you
Feb 3 2010 10:34PM
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Candy
Posts: 1051 - Karma: 176
I liked watching it. But it's not like I'm constantly thinking about it or anything like some of those other good movies.

And btw transformers is on a completely different level of a joke compared to Avatar. Not even comparable, because transformers (especially #2) blew so hard.
Feb 4 2010 2:29AM
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Tasche
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Avatar is nothing compared to Star Wars. Blasphemy.
Feb 4 2010 10:47AM
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