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SirStai
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I have to laugh a bit over you americans when you complain about high taxes. Here in Norway, something  around 40%-50% of what you make each year goes directly into the governments pocket.

And you know what? It´s not all bad.



I know you hate the guy, but he´s making some valid points here.




Jan 29 2010 2:40AM
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Tortao
Posts: 1292 - Karma: 10
refroidir hansel d'histoire
Jan 29 2010 2:47AM
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Nicholas.
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no im sure its fucking great. thats what i want. fuck, take it all...im happy to work for free.
Jan 29 2010 2:47AM
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SirStai
Posts: 253 - Karma: 15
It would actually have been impossible for us to have the situation we have today where there is close to no poverty and we have the highest standard of living in world without this system. Think about that.
Jan 29 2010 2:52AM
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ho_chi_minh
Posts: 150 - Karma: 224
1984. Micheal Moore was right, that place does look scary.
Jan 29 2010 3:01AM
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Benedetto.
Posts: 2526 - Karma: 64
Unachievable in the States.
Jan 29 2010 3:58AM
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BMB
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あgレエd、crap stupid comp. i mean agreed
Jan 29 2010 4:18AM
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ski93
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thats fucking awesome
Jan 29 2010 4:22AM
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Joshua.
Posts: 2957 - Karma: 6,230
Why does paradise house only WHITE PEOPLE!?!?!


Just kidding
Jan 29 2010 4:56AM
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Thenowhereman42
Posts: 5682 - Karma: 65
Norway is so not brutal
Jan 29 2010 5:13AM
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BC.
Posts: 1551 - Karma: 86
If a person commits murder, they send them to that resort of a prison? seems unjustified to me.

on a side note: LOL AT CHAINSAW MURDERER BECOMING A CHAINSAW TREE CUTTER.
Jan 29 2010 5:54AM
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winterparksuks
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Michael Moore is a hypocrite, all he does is bitch about how much America sucks while he is rolling is fat lardy body in the tens of millions he makes every year. It is sick to see someone as overweight and misinformed as him preach about how much better Europe is or how much smarter democrats are then republicans. Also Norway has a better quality of living not because of anything Moore try's to get you to believe but because of two simple things, a small population and a solid education system.

If America was a truly Capitalistic nation , with no government intervention and totally free markets, had a world class education system for every man woman and child and could have a population lower then 200 million everything would improve, this country has 300+ million people 99% of which will be consumers their whole lives not contributing anything but more offspring. To have an efficient , healthy and intelligent nation like Norway it starts with education and hopefully if a child gets a decent education they will not become welfare recipients with 7 kids living in a 500 sq ft apartment.
Jan 29 2010 6:19AM
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neutralzombie
Posts: 8629 - Karma: 606
hm. i trust cnn along with other republican medias and their valid points.
Jan 29 2010 8:52AM
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k-rob
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YEAH MICHAEL MOORE FUCKING SUCKS I'VE NEVER VISITED ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT I ALREADY KNOW MINE IS THE BEST. FUCK THAT GUY HE'S FAT AND HE DOESN'T KNOW SHIT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT I LEARNED IN MY HIGH SCHOOL STUDIES. HE SHOULD JUST GTFO WITH HIS COMMIE ASS.
Jan 29 2010 9:23AM
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Malcolm
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that prison looks like so much fun
Jan 29 2010 9:50AM
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VT_FLO
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Michael Moore can suck my balls.
Jan 29 2010 10:09AM
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nickyp
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A lot of the Scandinavia countries have very high tax rates, and have amazing school and health systems to match.

The Wicksellian Equilibrium for the US is a lot lower for the US.
Jan 29 2010 10:17AM
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neutralzombie
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not to mention they're some of the happiest people on the planet.
Jan 29 2010 11:38AM
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k-rob
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stop encouraging americans to move there. it is literally the shittiest country on the planet, everyone there is a psycho and the whole country smells like rat shit.
Jan 29 2010 11:44AM
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Leveroni
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Yeah they pay higher taxes, but they also have something called a safety net.
where as if you are to lose your job you should be fine.
They also have double and sometimes triple our vacation time.
Both men and woman can take of years of work, pregnancy leaves, and still receive full pay.

there are many more topics that can be discussed.

But something must be going wrong because Norway and Finland both have the highest suicide rates.
Jan 29 2010 11:56AM
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neutralzombie
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that's because they're really high north and they have the least amount of sunlight annually
which is a major factor in depression and a leading cause, obviously, in seasonal depression.
Jan 29 2010 12:14PM
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word-sauce
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Not true, Finland does but Norway doesn't. And shes right^ i read it was because of the sunlight too
Jan 29 2010 12:38PM
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neutralzombie
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russia is apparently #2 which makes sense, but the fact that japan rates higher than norway or finland is interesting.
Jan 29 2010 2:35PM
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SteezyOhio
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YA FUCK MICHAEL MORON, THE DUDE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO BACK THIS UP. HE HAS NO COUNTRY PRIDE AND IS JUST A FATTY MC FAT PANTS, ALL HE DOES IS TRAVEL THE WORLD AND OFFER VIDEOS THAT OPPOSE MY/MY PARENTS VIEW POINTS! I MEAN WHO THE FUCK IS HE TO TELL ME I MIGHT BE WRONG, HOW DARE I FUCKING BE WRONG. 'MERICA IS THE LAND OF THE FREE, WELL FREE ALMOST EXCEPT THAD GOSH DARN AFREAK'N TERRORIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE, GOD DAMN LIBERAL BITCHES.

p.s. if your able to look past your own arrogance k-rob offers valid points here.
Jan 29 2010 2:51PM
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Leveroni
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Its odd we had a discussion on this yesterday in my Western civ class.
But Myself and several other classmates really do not believe a lack of sunlight is a real explanation. I can see it being a factor. and in some cases a reason. But to boost the suicide rate that high.
There must be other reasons.

Also If lack of sunlight is the real reason..then explain vampires..
Jan 29 2010 4:37PM
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jeremy.g
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i would be fine with paying taxes like that if the things they have provided to them like education and healthcare were given to me. sounds like a pretty fair trade off to me
Jan 29 2010 4:54PM
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Slinger1x1
Posts: 8853 - Karma: 66
i've just considered commit murder

as long as its in Norway

the life of a prisoner in norway actually sounds amazing
Jan 29 2010 5:34PM
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squibble
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ya but the americans dont get shit in return from their taxes, and canadians dont do much better compared to you guys (unless your native)
Jan 29 2010 5:47PM
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Gameboy
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if you didn't do this on purpose, you don't know how stupid your comment is. online traductor are soo bad.
Jan 29 2010 5:55PM
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k-rob
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succeeding in a capitalist system doesn't make you capitalist.
Jan 29 2010 6:39PM
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k-rob
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i wouldn't call the hundreds of people outside america who do the exact same sort of work Michael Moore does "capitalists" either.
but maybe that's just me.
Jan 29 2010 6:48PM
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k-rob
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michael moore could offer his films for free and i'll bet it still wouldn't change what he's trying to. it would just make him poor.
Jan 29 2010 6:53PM
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k-rob
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you can't deny him having given some of his money away. in 2007, Michael Moore gave $12000 to Jim Kenefick, the man who ran moorewatch.com (a popular anti-moore website). it was to help pay for Keneficks medical fees for his wife, $12000 being the equivalent of a years worth of fees, after Kenefick posted a note on his site pleading for help to pay the fees.
he also donates to the people in need in his films, but only up until they can help themselves.
the need is far greater than the ability of charities to provide for the need.
the real problem is a system that creates such need, and there is absolutely no doubt that the capitalist system creates poverty.

Jan 29 2010 7:12PM
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k-rob
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michael moore is a selfish hypocrite, fine.
good thing you can watch and learn from this video for free, without even listening to a word of slander against america or it's systems.
Jan 29 2010 7:49PM
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tommycat
Posts: 483 - Karma: 23
Nothing is impossible.

But it probably will never happen. everyone who doesn't like it can find somewhere better to live...


Jan 29 2010 8:10PM
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EastCoast315
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You make a thread about how lazy you are.....






....and then you write a paragraph for a post? Not the work of a lazyman
Jan 29 2010 8:15PM
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MACAQUE
Posts: 2811 - Karma: 696
Haha.
Jan 29 2010 8:23PM
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An10a_Eng
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if you make a decent salary in america you lose over half too
Jan 29 2010 8:40PM
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neutralzombie
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http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/symptoms-of-serotonin-deficiency.html

"However, there are other factors that may cause serotonin deficiency in the body. Among other, acquired reasons include the following:
  • Stress
  • Over exposure to plastics and chemicals
  • Lack of exposure to sunlight
  • Deficiency of serotonin precursors like tryptophan
  • Niacin deficiency as well as deficiency of other vitamins, minerals, and calcium
  • Insulin resistance
  • Progesterone deficinecy
  • Dimished flow of blood to the brain
  • Excessive use of antidepressants"
Jan 30 2010 12:20AM
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FerrisBueller
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nigger
Jan 30 2010 1:54AM
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SteezyOhio
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looks like there is a lil ignarance rowen needs to hammer out of you
Jan 31 2010 12:29AM
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wh@t
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when you understand Japanese custom and religion it becomes clearer. also, here in sutheast asia the rates are particularly high but that is due to the fact that many people practice buddhism and are hindu and believe in the concept of reincarnation. though it is still a sad thing, it is often seen as an option for people who feel the life they are currently living has become pointless to continue going on with. the practice of Sati or self immolation of widows after their husbands death is a prime example of that.

i do agree with your pointing out that more darkness can increase depression rates in Northern Europe and northern areas of Asia like Russia and in that sense suicide is more of a chemical/medical issue as opposed to a cultural/religious practice.


Jan 31 2010 1:10AM
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steveys
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What do you want explained about vampires?  Besides that they dont exist.  I don't know if your parents have told you this, but Santa Claus does not exist either :)
Jan 31 2010 11:21AM
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feihlination
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if anything is hypocritic than it is the american behavior towards "government intervention" and "socialism".

you feel like the state is taking everything away from you without giving anything. but think about it, you guys get a lot from the government.

all countries that have inferior education systems say that this is a very important thing that they have to change and blablabla.

idk, maybe i just hate this "politicians and entreprises are the source of evil"-attitude.
Jan 31 2010 11:48AM
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finnajon5
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con college
Jan 31 2010 3:27PM
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