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stokedelic
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so this kid in my district chris daoust killed himself on thursday. he wasnt very popular and im 90% sure he was bipolar (i never met him). so heres this news that breaks out all over my district about his suicide. on friday kids all over the place are crying. on facebook everyone is going ape shit and making groups like, "rip chris" and stuff. about half of the kids who made the groups dont even know him. everyone is pointing fingers at two kids because they made fun of him even though it was really his other personality that killed him. and tonight like 800 kids are going to a candlelight vigil in honor of him, even though like 400 didnt know him and 300 didnt like him. i hate drama. im pretty sure this kid wouldnt want complete strangers crying over him.

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Jan 17 2010 4:19PM
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Static
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word, fuck dead people you don't know
Jan 17 2010 4:21PM
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Zump.
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the 2 kids that made fun of him are responsible. it doesn't matter how sick the kid is with a mental disease, they shouldn't be making fun of him. they pushed him over the edge and he snapped. now hes dead and theres no going back

Jan 17 2010 4:39PM
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jason...
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No. He didn't have to kill himself because he was being made fun. THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER WAY OUT. I'm sorry for the kids family, because suicide is extremely selfish.
Jan 17 2010 4:43PM
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skijunkiedtm
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every one who never talked to him and isolated him is responsible. And their guilt drives them to make those stupid groups and put on the act as if they cared.
Jan 17 2010 4:43PM
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DrZoidberg
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Heard this somewhere, can't remember where though:

"Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."

Jan 17 2010 4:46PM
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Zump.
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yes i agree, but don't you think if the kid has a mental illness he wouldn't be rational enough to make the right decision? and this kid was obviously in a lot of pain. the kids making fun of him added to it. not just the 2 that were blamed, i mean everyone that was involved. not going out of your way to be a dick would have made the differance in this kid's life. instead they chose to make fun of him
Jan 17 2010 4:47PM
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karmagod
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If a child kills him or her self, it's the parents fault. How can you be so inattentive to someone you love and lives under the same roof as you to let this person get so deep in a hole they commit suicide?

Jan 17 2010 4:50PM
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superpoluha
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are you in my religion class?

anyway, this guy is very selfish, and moronic... and people that are crying over him that didnt like him are stupid, so fuck them...
Jan 17 2010 4:52PM
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geteducated
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this. the kid should have been in therapy to treat his bipolar.  the parents were negligent. 

and i know what you mean about people being sad even though they didn't know the person, but it isn't up to you to question the validity of someones grief; no matter how disingenuous it might appear.
Jan 17 2010 4:56PM
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alden.
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why should he get a candlelight vigil if billy mays didnt?

Jan 17 2010 5:07PM
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stokedelic
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every one who never talked to him and isolated him is responsible. And their guilt drives them to make those stupid groups and put on the act as if they cared.
Jan 17 2010 5:27PM
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stokedelic
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shit. disregard the last post i meant to quote this one.

that scnentence i bleieve every word in.

Jan 17 2010 5:29PM
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Mr.Panda
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No, when you are still in a regular public school like even in high school you don't expect someone you know, even someone you don't really like, to die or kill themselves. It happened in my years in high school this kid that was a little different died in a car wreck. Not many people knew him but everyone was extremely sad except for the people that had experienced death. Experiencing death at any age is hard but it is more so in a time in your life when you aren't expecting it.
Jan 17 2010 5:31PM
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pmw
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really, another suicide thread? wow...


how can you say it was his other personality that killed him when you are '90% sure hes bipolar''

and if someone i did not like at school was killed, does that mean i wouldnt feel bad? are you fucken shitting me kid, this is what your annoyed with?
Jan 17 2010 5:42PM
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Dainsey
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i agree 100 percent
Jan 17 2010 5:47PM
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superpoluha
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true guy, true

Jan 17 2010 5:47PM
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beezey
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I had this same thing happen, although I was a true asshole to the kid... I was prob one of the people that made himself blow his head off with his parents shotgun. I've changed... tons of kids showed up to his funereal although it was all the kids that ignored him and didn't care. I went there to apologize and other people went to make an appearance. Its hard I still see his face, its a hard way to learn how to right your wrongs.
Jan 17 2010 5:51PM
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jester8589
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yeah i suppose its just that most kids in high school haven't experienced death at that age.

but to be honest its kinda the same thing with shane mcconkey.
Jan 17 2010 5:53PM
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beezey
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I've met him, and his family he is a great guy, he should be appreciated by anyone picking up ski sticks and going out and enjoying himself, thats what he wanted to teach everyone. Don't say that about mcconkey just because not everyone knew him doesn't mean you shouldn't respect the movement he had progressed in skiing.
Jan 17 2010 5:55PM
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k-rob
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that's like a couple weeks ago this kid i knew was found incinerated in his car on the side of the highway, and all my friends were inviting me to fb groups call RIP Phil and shit (even though i hate phil and i'm glad he burned). my ex says "did you heard phil died?" "yeah" "sad face" "..."
fuckin people don't get that i could give a fuck about phil whether he's alive or dead. fuck him.

Jan 17 2010 5:58PM
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stokedelic
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yeah, i expected this.

im 90% sure because his best friend told me but i never actually saw first hand that he is.

no ones besides his family and closest friends are actually sad, all the others are just getting into this whole scenario because they want to be apart of the biggest thing thats happened around here in 5 years. and im sure of that. the thoughts running through peoples heads should be "shit i miss him" and not "oh god a kid killed himself? i wonder how many people will like my status if i say that he was a great person"

im not trying to be a dick, but its death. it happenes every 7 seconds somewhere in the world. im not gonna sit here and pretend im sad about something that im not. thatd be even more selfish then the kid commiting suicide.

Jan 17 2010 6:06PM
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pmw
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i remember how well this turned out for me
Jan 17 2010 6:07PM
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geteducated
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good contribution to this thread.
Jan 17 2010 6:08PM
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Static
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haha
Jan 17 2010 6:23PM
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gustafari
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That statement right there is very wise
Jan 17 2010 6:45PM
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Mr.Panda
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Yay, another person trying to call out K-rob.
Jan 17 2010 6:46PM
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gustafari
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not saying anybody who says suicide is selfish isnt right but it just bugs me when people say that. ive gone through depression when my dad died and it pisses me off when people think that people who commit suicide are selfish. theres obviously more to it than everybody sees and they dont know whats going through the kids head when he decides to kill himself. its not fair to say that it was just a selfish act
Jan 17 2010 6:51PM
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I could see why is friends would be sad.

But, if two kids are making fun of me I just tell em to fuck off, you don't see me killing myself.

He took his life, everyone else shouldn't be sad, they should be trying to figure out what caused it, and how to fix the problem for other kids.
Jan 17 2010 6:52PM
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GhostfaceKillah
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some kid at my high school drowned at a cottage because he and another kid went out on a canoe in the middle of the night with no life jackets. they were drunk, the canoe tipped, the one kid swam to shore, and the other kid could hardly swim so he drown. horrible story of stupidity resulting in death.. how tragic.

this kid was in the year below me, but I was still expected by my friends, family, teachers, and community to attend his funeral/wake deal.... WTF? I never spoke a word to him in my life but an incredible amount of pressure was placed on me to go to his lousy funeral. Ultimately I refused to, and was shunned and called nasty things because of my decision.

It would be understandable if I were close friends with him, or a friend of a friend, or a family friend, etc... but I had absolutely NO REASON to go to this kids funeral, so I didn't.

This is probably so far from the OP... but I sympathize with you K-Rob.
Jan 17 2010 6:57PM
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k-rob
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my point is that just because somebody dies it doesn't mean i'm going to treat them any differently than i would otherwise, and it annoys me when other people do that, like the people the OP mentioned who didn't even really know the person who died, but suddenly acted as if they did because he's dead.
Jan 17 2010 7:48PM
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geteducated
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yea, but you didn't have to tell us how badly you hated the kid and that you're glad he is dead to all of us.  kinda lame just to get a point across. 
Jan 17 2010 7:49PM
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charmander
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shut the fuck up.

i gurantee you've made fun of some kid before.

anyways, it sucs he killed himself, i feel bad for his family.
Jan 17 2010 7:52PM
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charmander
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i agree with you.

similar, but not really the same..

this girl at my school died of cancer a few years ago, i think she was a soph. when she died, and i was in 8th grade at the time.

fast forward a couple years ago, and she comes up and i ask how she died (legit didnt know) and then everybody hated me and i almost got in a fight with her boyfriend, because it doesnt ruin my life someone ive never met died.
Jan 17 2010 7:56PM
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pmw
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who the fuck are you to assume his parents neglected him?
Jan 17 2010 8:08PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Yeah I know what you mean, when I was like 17 this dude took some heroin, then laid down on some train tracks and waited for the train to come. It was a huge thing and they had to like have people at the funeral not letting people in because so many people that didn't actually know him were his best friend all the sudden. I remember hanging out with him too, every time he got wasted he would talk about how much he wanted to kill himself, but when I asked about it everyone said he just gets like that when he's drunk.

Another girl I knew died last year from a random seizure while in a pool and I was pretty good friends with her in high school, but I didn't even go to that funeral because it was a zoo and again a ton of people that didn't even know her were at it.

RIP and shit
Jan 17 2010 8:14PM
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dylansiggers
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I saw that on a thread about suicide like a week ago.

True Stuff


Jan 17 2010 8:16PM
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EastCoast315
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this
there are many people with loving parents that hate themselves, its not ever that simple
Jan 17 2010 8:22PM
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frosted_flakes
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theres so many people in here trying to claim to know what went wrong and why he killed himself, but absolutely none of you can say that if you don't know what kind of situation it was inside and out, all the details.

seriously everyone in here needs to swallow their ego and admit they know nothing about this

as for me i am always remorseful of someones death, but i hate when people jump on the bandwagon and act like they cared so much or act like it affects them so much. people die, thats life, you have nothing to prove by being the most sad over it.

"so it goes"
Jan 17 2010 8:35PM
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pmw
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way to contradict the fuck out of your statement

you are pissed because of the people in this thread who think they "know what went wrong and why he killed himself" and that these assumptions are completely non fact based, yet you do the same thing by assuming everyone is jumping on a bandwagon and trying to be the most sad over his death
Jan 17 2010 8:49PM
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Zump.
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i have made fun of kids before, and i feel horrible for it. because hey, you never know. sometimes the differance in someone's life can be how you treat them. especially this kid that the OP talks about. if you had the choice when you passed this kid in the halls to say "hello" and smile, or say "pshh look at this fucking pussy" and knock the books out of his hands, knowing that he would later go home and put a gun to his head, what would you do?

you don't know how people are going to respond to your actions, both with good and bad intentions. i think its best to go about your life trying to help people out, give them the benefit of the doubt, and not judge. you don't know whats going on in their head. those 2 kids that made fun of him were the straws that broke the camel's back. now someone's son and freind is dead because people like you walk this earth.

Jan 17 2010 8:52PM
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charmander
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i just don't agree with you.

i've known people who've killed themselves, the only one at fault is the kid imo.
another similar example, my uncle died of AIDS related complications, it's his fault he got AIDS, maybe the dude he banged with aids didn't know he had it, or didn't care, either way, my uncle got aids by having unprotected sex with another hiv positive individual. ultimately, that was my uncles choice, do i wish he was still alive? yeah, is it anybody elses fault? no.
Jan 17 2010 9:00PM
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Zump.
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yeah, i totally see where your coming from and do agree that when its all said and done, the kid with the gun to his head is responsible. but according to the OP, he had a mental illness. he can't help the way he acts, and people are way too judgemental because they don't know the situation. and this whole thing could have been avoided if those kids werent such assholes
Jan 17 2010 9:05PM
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k-rob
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well that was my point. i hated the kid and i'm glad he's dead, but people expect me not to be.
Jan 17 2010 9:33PM
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geteducated
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whatever man. some of the stuff you said was messed up and not necessary to get your point across.  it only shows that you're not very good at expressing yourself in a mature way.
Jan 17 2010 9:43PM
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k-rob
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i don't give a fuck you pooface.
Jan 17 2010 9:45PM
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Hood.[scdb]
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This is what i always say yet no one agrees, even though it may seem like there isnt a choice, there is.
Jan 17 2010 9:46PM
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beezey
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Damn, so this younger boy, 2-3 years younger then me, always had a crush on me, I was always nice to him and he was a sweetheart. Overweight trashy family he had a good sense of humor. His family is disgusting he didn't deserve what he wasn't given.... Shot himself today...I'm really hurt
Jan 18 2010 3:22AM
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feihlination
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how can anyone be more legit than k-rob.
Jan 18 2010 5:46AM
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musick13
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If he did have some sort of mental illness then no one should blame those two kids any more than we should blame everyone for not seeing the signs.

But if he was normal in every way...
Jan 18 2010 10:24AM
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JNew
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Damn man, take it easy, pretty harsh if you liked him or not.
Jan 18 2010 11:57AM
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