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Unbelievable Haiti earthquake pics & an easy way to give help

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crooks
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Possibly 100,000 dead. As if Haiti wasn't already in terrible condition, a 7.0 quake just fucked so much shit up... The destruction is horrific.

47 pictures up on boston.com, here are just a few to try and put things in perspective.

Also here's a REALLY easy way to donate $5 to earthquake relief.. simply text "yele" to 501501, and it will add $5 to your bill at the end of the month.

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Jan 13 2010 6:28PM
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skithebert
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you seem to be agreeing with me now but that doesn't match up with your first post at all. something about big contries taking land leaving only small poor countries in disaster prone areas.

and i was referring to dominican republic in a general sense not just from the earthquake. Its in interesting case study since they both were former colonies and on the same island, yet are currently in such different states. I'm not sure what point you are making saying 'coincidence'. the dominican republic also falls directly on a fault and there most certainly will be a big earthquake there as well.
Jan 13 2010 11:03PM
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.catierob
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what about japan? tokyo is like the third 3 richest cities and is pretty prone to earthquakes.

im sorry this seems like a good observation but is not entirely true

Jan 13 2010 11:06PM
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Buzzell
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they cant do the things you mentioned by themselves. they are one of the poorest, if not the poorest country in the world. they have nothing and DEFINITELY can not pay for better infrastructure or even rebuild for themselves.
Jan 13 2010 11:11PM
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skithebert
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^yea there's the quote
Jan 13 2010 11:11PM
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Slinger1x1
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no, I completely agree with what you are saying.

but what i was saying, which was merely an observation, was that poor countries always end up in the center of these terrible natural disasters.
when was the last time 100,000 americans were killed in a natural disaster in america?
If this has even happened, it must have been a longggg time ago

im just saying, the trend goes that these smaller and poorer countries seem to end up right in middle of these natural disaster areas.

Jan 13 2010 11:16PM
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skithebert
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well i think the main point is that natural disasters can happen anywhere. big, small, rich, poor. they tend to be more deadly in poorer (not smaller, China for example) countries since often times those people are not as prepared as a wealthy country would be. They also often have high population densities and a lack of infrastructure for any kind of rescue/medical care.
Jan 13 2010 11:31PM
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Slinger1x1
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but what im saying with the poor getting the disaster prone land is:
like i mentioned before - Katrina hit Louisiana. katrina didnt kill everyone, but it greatly effected many. and who did it effect? the poor black communities. This has nothing to do with racism on my part or anything, its just what happened. most people who suffered from katrina were poor blacks,

the tsunamis in the indian ocean... who suffered? poor communities.

yes, these communities dont have the money to defend themselves, but if they didnt end up in these disaster prone spots in the first place, they wouldnt need to...
Jan 13 2010 11:37PM
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pmills
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you need to word your correlations much better; small and poor alone are not sufficient attributes to account for high death tolls; the top three highest death tolls are located in china -- obviously not a small country

the most accurate common attribute amongst the worst natural disasters is a high density population -- although poverty can often be a significant factor to dense population growth this is not always the case.

also, nation size and founding date are not sufficiently connected; there are many small nations that have been around for ages-- you can't really say that each nation had an opportunity to draft geological locations. I think you can say that people 'inherit' land...as for haiti it's story of origin, at least as colonial settlement, was the 'richest french colony in the new world.' (wiki) It wasn't until a slave revolt overthrew the government that haiti was born.

I'd venture a guess that Haiti's poverty stems from the fact that it has had 32 coups in 200 years.
Jan 13 2010 11:39PM
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Drail
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you do realize that San Fran burnt to the ground from an earthquake in the past?

Jan 13 2010 11:48PM
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skiminnesota
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from Wiki.

Political corruption is a common problem in Haiti. The country has consistently ranked as one of the most corrupt nations according to the Corruption Perceptions Index, a measure of perceived political corruption. In 2006, Haiti was ranked as the most corrupt nation out of the 163 that were surveyed for the Index.[4] The International Red Cross reported that Haiti was 155th out of 159 countries in a similar survey of corrupt countries.[5]

ide say that atleast part of Haiti's government has absolute shit for brains.

i would imagine if they could get their act together and stabilize the country it could go back to / move forward in being a tourism destination.

(have we agreed this entire thread?:)
Jan 13 2010 11:50PM
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spliff.Life
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yes, but he did have some reasoning

++++vibes to all haitians (?)
Jan 14 2010 12:00AM
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pmills
Posts: 7162 - Karma: 59
no nevar!

(maybe you do have a heart, after all:)

as long as we don't go off on to what rush/olbermann said
Jan 14 2010 12:11AM
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squibble
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Everyone should be weary when donating. Only donate to a trusted company.

personally i wouldnt do the text 5 dollar thing, go to a legit company because there are a lot of scammers out there
Jan 14 2010 12:18AM
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skiminnesota
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Part of an Obama conspiracy to spend more money, and increase his votership for 2012?

George Bush and Karl Rove enact their revenge on an ungrateful world?

Ive been consumed in a text book and have not watched / listened to the drivel. I honestly dont know what they think, and frankly, i dont think i want to. haha

contrary to popular belief. i do in fact have a heart. I keep it in a jar on my desk. ;) there is a thick layer of dust on the jar, havent used it in awhile. it might have to make a cameo appearance just for this.
Jan 14 2010 12:21AM
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bangarangmules
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Yea because when we settled in America, we knew of all of the occurring natural disasters that came with it...and we knew it was better than all of the rest of the world..
Jan 14 2010 12:35AM
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Commonwealth
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Well obviously, but those ships have the capacity of a small hospital. Most of the hospitals in Port-Au-Prince were destroyed, plus it gets people off this island.

By no means am I saying its a permanent solution, but its a start.
Jan 14 2010 9:44AM
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Peter.
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florida gets rampaged by hurricanes usually, only poor people live in florida though so it's ok
Jan 14 2010 10:33AM
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jorb.co
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are you kidding?
Jan 14 2010 11:18AM
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WikiWiki
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your an idiot- you dont pick your country- they were all colonies- its not like buying a house
Jan 14 2010 11:24AM
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Tasche
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Haiti was reliant on foreign aide before this disaster. I cant imagine how terrible this would be.

Please donate if you have a cell phone.

To donate directly to the red cross send "Haiti" to 90999.
This will donate 10 dollars to help, they need every penny they can get.

here is a link to show it is legit
http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11821537
Jan 14 2010 11:26AM
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paulgenovese
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Hahaha oh that made me lol. But i feel so bad for these poor people, I really wanna know if that text thing is legit, i have a feeling it isnt...
Jan 14 2010 11:30AM
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C-Burg
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not to be a jackass but based on what happened with katrina and the tsunami I will not donate money. If I want to donate $20 then I will go to the store and by canned food and water and try to send that.
Jan 14 2010 12:23PM
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double_D
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i texted 10 bucks so should everyone else

Jan 14 2010 12:57PM
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Tasche
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Conley, come on man a post like that will keep people from donating to the red cross. Don't make this into a debate. The best way to help is to donate to the red cross because we all know you are not going to box up some shit and send it over there. plus it is easy and it is added to your phone bill.
Jan 14 2010 12:57PM
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C-Burg
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my bad man i left that out because i was in a hurry.  I will donate to reputable programs but i think  it is just sad that there are people out there trying to capitalize on situations like this
Jan 14 2010 1:55PM
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eastAR5
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Jan 14 2010 5:00PM
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yuck
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it would be the easiest way to scam people... i can see some con man thinking that up
Jan 14 2010 5:02PM
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garrets
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damn this whole situation sucks
Jan 14 2010 5:10PM
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Hermondo
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you know that most civilizations have been in their current area for thousands of years right? nobody picked any certain land. that's just where they're from. some societies are structured differently though so when a natural disaster strikes it does more damage than a wealthier nation. natural disaster happen everywhere.

ex: people up in Washington live dangerously close to an active volcano (Mt. Rainier). they're didn't settle there cuz that was the last place to live because they got last pick. you just have to hope and pray it doesn't erupt. much like other disasters. you just hope they don't happen
Jan 14 2010 7:42PM
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hellomynameisjef
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i can see that same con man getting raped to death by karma
Jan 14 2010 7:47PM
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Drail
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actually, around the world throughout history people have chosen to live at the foot of a volcano because the soil is so fertile. a lot of very very wealthy people have died from volcanic eruptions since the beginning of humanity because that's where they wanted to live.

Jan 14 2010 7:50PM
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B4NE1
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Seeing this happen to a country that already lives in terrible poverty makes me sick i will be donating every chance i get. +Vibes and i ask that anyone who that has a couple bucks in there pocket donate it all adds up
Jan 14 2010 7:53PM
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antwone
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dont feed the troll
Jan 14 2010 7:54PM
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Slinger1x1
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but when we settled in the east coast of what would soon be america, do you think the settlers would have stayed if they were getting shit on my hurricanes and tornados and earthquakes?
Jan 14 2010 9:09PM
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Slinger1x1
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are you calling me a troll?
you have 500 posts
Jan 14 2010 9:15PM
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geteducated
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and you have over 5000, so i guess by your logic that makes you a moron.


Jan 14 2010 9:34PM
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antwone
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yes your logic is on point
Jan 15 2010 7:07PM
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FerrisBueller
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i pooped on haiti =D
Jan 15 2010 7:21PM
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jason...
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You're kidding right? You can't actually believe this...
Jan 15 2010 7:28PM
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ECski
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One of my best friends from middle school and high school was born in Haiti and he still has family there so everyone pray for Haiti and that the people can rebound from this horrible tragedy.
Jan 15 2010 7:35PM
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Obsessedwski
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Oh haha
what are you in middle school
go fuck yourself
Jan 15 2010 7:48PM
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MAC.D
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You must legitimately retarded. Do you think the Europeans who settled in the U.S. picked the land they settled on because they knew where fucking fault lines and hurricane prone areas where?

YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKTARD YOU MAKE ME SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 15 2010 8:45PM
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sheeby
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Yeah, this is legitimate. I donated earlier today and they just add $10 to your bill at the end of the current month. It's on the Red Cross website.


Jan 15 2010 9:19PM
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Mac.
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Your point has nothing to do with "picking the land".  It has everything to do with the fact that when a country is poor there is usually poorly constructed buildings, therefore leading to more damage and death.
Also the lack of money for rescue care/hospitals aids to the death tolls as well.

Rich areas of the world are not exempt from disasters in anyway, it is just that they are built much better, and therefore if a disaster did happen there, they would be much less affected.
Jan 16 2010 12:21AM
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