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2 onto urban weird problems-prize if you can help

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HERCULES.
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alright. i feel like quite the faggot for posting tis in ski gabber because i see so many threads- how to spin?, how to do box sideways?, how to grind?. This in not one of THOSE threads its a special one with a prize if you can really help me. And this is not a gaper question either its complicated and has me very upset. Last year i had this problem also but out of nowere i fixed it and had everything fine and i was 2ing onto like every urban rail box in my park. I was so happy with them i started trying lip 270 onto some pretty big urbans. So now this year my problem is back. My prob is when i go to spin onto ANYTHING now, even rideon boxes im super comfortable with spinning and setting everthing up and i get full rotation but i can never land centered on the box/rail with it under my feet. I land onj my tails nomatter what i do. like on rideon boxes today i tried hitting them at a very hard urban angle that should of sent me over the other side of the box but i still land on my tails of my skis for some reason. I dont know what the fucks wrongwith me. Today i also tried it on 4 different things, flatbox, urban skinny box, rideon down box and a rail and i fail on each. its so weird i ride up aiming myself at the feature, pop nice, spin, get it all the way aroung, and then land on my tails? Ive tried soo long atleast put in 5 hours atleast hikeng shit to get this and it still didnt help. Im also def spotting the rail/box were i want to land and i think im poping straight up to just nothings working.

Soo

Jan 9 2010 11:08PM
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HeathR
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watch some vid so u can c what ur doing wrong
Jan 9 2010 11:12PM
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HERCULES.
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um that was weird i wasnt done posting yet.

Soo* what am i doing wrong and how do i fix this? This has gotten me so pissed of that i lost like one of the most important tricks. And the prize will be something nice im not sure what yet, Prolly something valued at around 20$ First person to fix me gets it. I ski all day wendsday ths week so ill announce the winner wends night. thanks 

Jan 9 2010 11:13PM
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bret
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i used to do this on urban features too. you're over-anticipating and spinning just a bit early. remember, 2 steps: pop up over the feature first like you were just going to slide it, then let your legs and vision come around for the 270. you could think of it like you were gonna do a real quick blind-up on the rail, only you do the blind-up while you're still in the air. hope that makes sense. once you're back on track and getting over the rail, you can smooth it back into one motion. good luck!
Jan 9 2010 11:14PM
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ben-jamm-in
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so you're just trying to do a reg 270 onto an urban (side jump) rail, and not drifting far enough over the rail?
Jan 9 2010 11:16PM
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HERCULES.
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yeah pretty much. And ive tried so many different angles and stuff going into the rail and nothing helps
Jan 9 2010 11:18PM
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ThaLetterM.
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dont come at it with too hard of an angle. Wait till you pop to start spinning. Get solid pop, get the first half around and your lower body will follow.
Jan 9 2010 11:31PM
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ThaLetterM.
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*get the first half around and your upper body will follow
Jan 9 2010 11:32PM
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MayorWest
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what helped me was jumping over the rail. jump over and to a 3 and spot the rail and tap your nose the rail this will get you comfy with being able to get your skis over the rail since that hard part about urban is mentall and thinking your skis are gunna catch. aproach turn head shoulders pop spot rail bring feet around and lock on. doing the jumping over thing will gt your muscles to let you throw your body over the rail
Jan 9 2010 11:33PM
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HERCULES.
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blump. anyone have anything else?
Jan 10 2010 3:05PM
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thejackal1177
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you could be putting alot of weight on your right ski to get your left over the rail and it sends you to the right.
Jan 10 2010 3:09PM
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St.Steezy
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Relax. and stop thinking about it..
Jan 10 2010 3:15PM
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nickyp
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You sound like quite the homophobic douchebag...
Jan 10 2010 3:17PM
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Evilchris
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Im not an expert, but just let your muscle memory take over, just slide some easy boxes or rails without thinking about and and then once you stop thinking about what you are doing go back and try again
Jan 10 2010 5:56PM
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jamodeo
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do a 180 over the rail itself but look at the rail and remember the spot where you are directly centered over the rail in the air and 270 into that spot. helps me idk
Jan 10 2010 6:58PM
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Jimmy.
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I have the same problem. I land to the side of the rail and only my tips clip the rail, like i'm doing a 360.
Jan 10 2010 7:00PM
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Ian.Ham
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you are setting ur spin off one leg, this happened to me too.  Just think about jumping up and then spinning rather than just setting the spin super fast/early.  And every time you go think about jumping to the opposite side you usually do.  so if you fall off the right side usually, try to jump to the left.
Jan 10 2010 7:07PM
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Malcolm
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you have any vids you can post of you trying them?
Jan 10 2010 7:11PM
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khai@krepela
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Go faster... Im serious it works haha
Jan 10 2010 7:16PM
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Burrrlapz
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The only thing that worked for me is comming at more of an angle??
Jan 10 2010 7:45PM
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rupert_pupkin
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take off at a greater distance to the rail and compensate that with a bigger angle.
I had the same problem and I found out the reason was because i started taking off at a distance of like 10-20cm of the rail, which i hadnt done earlier. I changed that to 30-40 and voila, it worked like a charm for me
Jan 10 2010 7:46PM
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rj.
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i second this
Jan 10 2010 7:48PM
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CrotchKiller
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your momentum is wrong
Jan 10 2010 7:51PM
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three6steeze
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my theory is kinda similar to this^^

I think that your thinking to hard about the spin and probably setting it pretty early, and when you do that your most likely (if your spinning left) settling your spin with alot of your inside edge on your left ski which when you push off of it to set the spin would forsure send you to the right and off center of the feature. If you spin right reverse the direction of everything... But i think the solution is most likely just be patient with the trick, Pop and THEN set the spin, make sure you are leaving the ground before you are even thinking about spinning. Also pop hard when your trying to fix this and try to get a nice big slow 90 over the rail and then pull in and get the last 180 of the rotation. Also if you take speed into a feature it could also help because it will just not allow you to use that inside edge to push off and spin from.

Idk if that all makes sense or not but i'm pretty confident thats atleast part of the problem.
Jan 10 2010 8:03PM
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K.C.Deane
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very well said. The pop is key, and not only the pop but even pop. make sure your not pushing more with one leg.
Jan 10 2010 8:34PM
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