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How do I break Line Invaders in?

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40oz.
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They are 161 and im trying to butter and just cant get more than like 3 inches of butter. Is it dew to the length of the ski or should they be broken in as i am told? If they need to be broken in, then how? I want more butter

Jan 3 2010 7:31PM
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Slinger1x1
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either
they are to stiff
you're weak
you short

throw on your boots and start going nose presses in your hall, just keep bending them (not trying to break them though) and they might loosen up
Jan 3 2010 7:42PM
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40oz.
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im 5' 7" but does that matter?
Jan 3 2010 7:49PM
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KennyC
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haha in your sig you wrote poles polls. but anyway invaders take like a day of skiing to get to the noodly state they are known for. your probly doing it wrong.
Jan 3 2010 7:53PM
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no_steeze
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as well as a wax "scrapper" and "dew" instead of due

invaders are incredibly soft...maybe you should hit the gym, do some squats, feel the deep burn down in your thighs
Jan 3 2010 7:57PM
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Slinger1x1
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then rub some sweet cream on it?
Jan 3 2010 8:09PM
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Tucks
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wait you can't butter on line invaders? Maybe you are doing it wrong, or too light? I was under the impression that line invaders are one of the softer skis other than jr. or foam core skis.
Jan 3 2010 8:14PM
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Canuker
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+1 for blades of glory references

and an your 5'7"? how much do you weigh, you should be butterign the shit out of those puppies. Hell, im not even 5'5" and 128 and i ride 171 08 invaders. Mind you i dont get the best butters but ive concluded its because i do not put near enough weight on my tips ( i have this vision in my mind of me having a sick butter but then half way through, while all my weights on my tips, my heels eject and i get a mouth full of ski/snow)

Jan 3 2010 8:17PM
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no_steeze
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right after i get my jugs waxed
Jan 3 2010 11:39PM
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shintastic48
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Ya I think your doing it wrong. And are your boots tight enough? I had that problem at first and though it was my skis. My boots were too loose and I couldn't get the full potential of weight.
Jan 4 2010 9:05AM
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lamoe.0
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Yea Ive got the same issue, how much butter should I be Getting? I get about 4 inches now
Jan 4 2010 9:34AM
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40oz.
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Fuck i need to go back to school. And i think it may be that my boots are not tight enough that could actually be the problem now that i think about it.
Jan 5 2010 9:04PM
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butteredpretzel
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to make them buttery, purchase them, thats all you gota do

they are already sooooooooo noodly right out of the shrink wrap
Jan 5 2010 9:07PM
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tharvey3894
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basically, just ski on them. what i did when i got mine last year was i just hit jumps all day (because thats not really what they are for because of how soft they are) so i basically just tried to land backseat on them or on my toes, because it loosens them up a little (not that they arent already flexy)
Jan 5 2010 9:16PM
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macdaddynf
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i have line invaders. best skis ive ever had. There isnt exactly a certain way to break in skis, but try buttering by quickly throwing yourself forward and jumping as if you are trying to pop the boots out of your bindings. Keep doing this over and over again. If the boots pop out of your bindings, you need to get them adjusted. there are 3 tightness levels: Begginer, intermediate, and advanced. there is also a 4th level that stores dont offer on the paper you fill out, so you just have to tell them. I have mine on level 4. Anyway, if you still cant butter, you either need to pop forward faster and harder, or you need to grow more. The taller, the easier it is to butter
Jan 5 2010 9:39PM
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macdaddynf
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watever you do, dont get a new pair of skis. invaders are known for there butter zones!! they are very flexible skis. as i said in my last reply, i own them, and they are the best skis i have ever had
Jan 5 2010 9:40PM
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tharvey3894
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what do u think about them on bigger booters? jw cause mine i just cant use on anything but rails
Jan 5 2010 9:44PM
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butteredpretzel
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by "Tightness levels" i assume you are talking about DIN, and unless your bindings actually only go up to 4, there are alot more "tightness levels" on bindings. mine go to 16
Jan 5 2010 9:57PM
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lamoe.0
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I have no trouble buttering the noses but the tails on mine seem so stiff, Ive tried it with my boots loose and tight and it still doesnt seem to butter, I dont have park specific boots because I went cheap this year, could it be my boots?

Jan 8 2010 2:06PM
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MNS
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eat a tub of butter
Jan 8 2010 2:11PM
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-ROY-
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most likely not your boots..Just throw your weight moreand go for what ever your trying
Jan 8 2010 2:45PM
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40oz.
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Thats excatly how mine are, my noses are very butterey but i cant get nothing from my tails or not near as much?
Jan 8 2010 9:23PM
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BlueSteele
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That's one of the softest skis out there, I wouldn't blame your equipment.  People butter on much much stiffer skis.
Jan 8 2010 10:32PM
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KennyC
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he thinks he knows more than he actually does.... hes talking about level of skier. 1 beginner skis pop out easy 2 intermediate takes a little more force to pop out level 3 "advanced" do big jumps and stuff. but ya din would of been the words i would of used in that context.
Jan 8 2010 10:51PM
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KHerdes
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if your having trouble getting the back flexing try doing up your boots a little more then just keeping hucking tail butters over roolers and after a few hours of that they should be good. i have them and the front and backs are sooo soft i can just lift it up with a slight lean forward or back.
Jan 9 2010 12:32AM
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prademaker
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din to 10, step in on a carpet and chill in a nose stall. repeat
Jan 18 2010 11:38PM
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bt@509
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i'd do what the guy above me said. just butter in your hall. i'm 5'2" and 115 pounds and i can butter my friends 161 invaders like nothing. lol. i thought they were too soft. but after he rode em a few times he played in his living room on the rug for like an hour and broke em in. i can't really butter my punx in a 164 tho. they are stiff. just get crazy on em lol.
Jan 18 2010 11:45PM
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dan09uk
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iv got 171 invader, they are very soft. when i fist started learning butters i had the same problem. tighen your boots and practicing nose presses will help.
Jan 19 2010 8:37AM
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Heart
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One day of riding should probably break them in, however, if you're a light rider, they may be hard to butter.

Last year I was 5'2" 90 pounds, riding 151's and I had major trouble with pressing.

This year, however, I'm 5'4' 115 pounds riding the same skis, (yes they're kinda short), but buttering is much easier.
Feb 15 2010 1:44PM
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YUNGjo
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What do you think is the MOST soft ski of all time?
Feb 15 2010 1:47PM
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shintastic48
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Moment reno jib.
Feb 15 2010 2:03PM
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PaleCelery
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FALSE

not even the softest ski in moments line. The rockers are way softer, and rockered to boot.


Feb 15 2010 4:46PM
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.brian
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line elizabeths/ep pros
Feb 15 2010 5:24PM
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PaleCelery
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I'll second that motion

Elizabeths are easily the softest ski I've ever flexed
Feb 15 2010 5:31PM
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Balto
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07/08 ep pro
Feb 15 2010 5:32PM
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shintastic48
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Dan, have you seen the flex on the new reno jib? The guy at sia practically flexed it 90 degrees from the center. I've never seen a ski do that. Not even my invaders can do that. They go only about 40 degrees.
Feb 15 2010 5:35PM
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PaleCelery
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Yes the new ones are softer, but the rockers have always been softer than the jibs, and always will be.

Maybe your 90 lb ass just isnt strong enough to flex em. I feel like I could bend my rockers in half if I tried.
Feb 15 2010 6:15PM
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PaleCelery
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Also, he did not flex them 90 degrees, you are obviously exaggerating to try and prove your point. What skis have you ridden besides your invaders? Have you flexed the jibs personally... how do you know what the flex is, you dont know how much force he exerted toget teh ski to flex. Im sorry but watching somebody flex a ski in a video doesnt really give you any idea what the flex of the ski is going to be. Here a screenshot of the video... I didnt whip out a protractor or anything but that DOES NOT look like 90 degrees to me....

Click for larger image


If you want I'll send you a pic of me flexing my rockers to well past that point
Feb 15 2010 6:23PM
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PaleCelery
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Triple post yea, shoot me but I dont give a fuck.

I jsut noticed something... if your invaders "only" go to about 40 degrees... wouldnt that be MORE flexy than 90 degrees?....180 degees is a flat ski, 90 is flexed hald way and 45 would be 3/4 of the way, practically folded in half...
Feb 15 2010 6:27PM
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LadySaGa
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heres another point, to rape shin even further, they used a fisheye lense for all of those videos which made the skis look more curved
Feb 15 2010 6:34PM
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PaleCelery
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Is it? doenst look like it.
Feb 15 2010 6:42PM
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shintastic48
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I have "felt" the flex on jibs and have ridden on them. Also I have flexed the rockers. They feel about the same to me. And he flexed it close to 90 degrees. I remember watching the video and thinking damn. That was like 80 degrees.
Feb 15 2010 6:45PM
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PaleCelery
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Maybe you should watch it again... here.

Def not that flexy, probably flexier than the old jibs but that looks to be pretty similar to everyothe park ski on the market

http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/1265126210Moment.mov
Feb 15 2010 6:58PM
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.jesus.
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yeah then shit on your bases and they'll be nice and sloppy like a bad blow job
Feb 15 2010 8:55PM
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bondi011
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I broke them in the first day (07) by hitting a rainbow rail...catching the front tip underneath and snapping the ski in half, I would not recommend that way
Feb 15 2010 9:01PM
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MN_represent
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well mabe its cuz im a big fat fattie but im 6'1 and 200lbs and i butter like theres no tommorow on those. too bad i will never see mine again......
Feb 15 2010 9:10PM
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jason...
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For one, you picked skis that are way too small for you. And secondly since they're so small they probably have the wrong flex points for the weight you're putting over the skis.
Feb 15 2010 9:15PM
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the-big-lepowski
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quite easily actually.  but there's always warranty...
Feb 15 2010 9:56PM
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