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im just wondering from people who have skied both. is the ARG so much better than the JJ in pow to sacrifice awesome all mountain shredding? i have the jay's and am gunna try out the ARG's catskiing, thinking of getting them.
thankss
Reverse sidecut skis(I count ARGs as reverse, 1mm isn't going to drag and the flat spot adds stability in pow actually) will be much 'better' than skis with lots of sidecut in pow. JJs have like a 14m turn radius or something tiny like that, so they have A LOT of sidecut over at least 1/2 the ski.
By 'better', I mean you can smear them super well and they aren't hooky. Some people like hooked in turns in pow, and with the JJs taper that will be easy. So both will be good, but my preferance would be ARGs(not to mention landing cliffs with the bigger waist is nice). The JJs also have plenty of camber, which(based on how Chetlers skied) will make them super poppy turn to turn in pow, but will also dig the tips in a bit, so even more locked in feeling(although getting out of turns isn't going to be hard like it can be in pow on park skis).
No way, I would give the ARGs at least 2 better than JJs on actual faces(not counting 30 yard long spaces in trees) and it's great in trees with powder because it's pretty short. At mellower billy goat lines with lots of technical objects, but not something skied at speeds, I would give the JJs a better rating than ARGs but not by a ton.
Open powdery faces with some features and cliffs on reverse sidecut skis is the best thing ever skiing wise,.
I would call that preferance. I personally can control them at higher speeds on faces, however I really prefer my 202 Lotus 138s(mounted at like -13, makes the smearing turns stable and with easier control, and more from the tail than underfoot vs. mounted near center like most reverse sidecut skis, which pivot/smear more from underfoot) on faces over ARGs. And smeary turns can for sure cut it in open spaces(look at McConkey!) but I do get what you're saying, it's not like ARGs are my prefered ski there, just prefered over JJs.
JJs are just too turny for my liking I guess, a longer JJ with less sidecut would probably be more of what I was looking for as far as partly normal sidecut skis(or, more like 195s S7s or Lotus 120s)
