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People who refuse to hike

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Drail
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So, I'm not really calling anyone out on NS, and I don't think I am referring to the majority. Actually I have no idea as to how many people fit into this category, but here we go:

People who just straight up refuse to accept walking uphill as a form of transportation to get your turns in. I find a lot of our parents generation (the baby boomers, if you will - 'cause some of you younger kids probably have cool parents that aren't in the baby boomers category) are lazy pieces of shit that are so immersed in their fake world of luxury that unless there is a chairlift to take them to the top of the mountain, skiing just isn't an option. Even after taking that lift up, if there is a 20 second, 5m vertical gain to get to an absolutely amazing run, it's not even a consideration for them.

The way I look at it, our sport is about skiing DOWN a mountain. Too many people take for granted how we get UP the mountain, and their refusal to work, even in the slighted, to get to that downhill ride is truly a shame. I think it reflects the social and mental evolution of our species and how pathetic and ignorant we really are becoming.

I'll end my rant here with fear of going off course and opening up a can that should be left alone.



Are there any amongst us that would never, will never, and have never hiked? I would assume not, because even if it's a rail, a jump, the pipe - it's still hiking. It's more those who ski groomers, or the fair weather skiers, or the inbounds powder snobs (way, WAY worse than any park rat could ever be).


Your thoughts?
Dec 30 2009 7:54PM
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freeskibum82
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I earn my turns every day from 9-5... Ill take the chair...
Dec 31 2009 8:29AM
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SKIU4EA
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when Mt Snow opened in October I hiked the park all day.     When I try a new trick and fall, mainly on a rail,   I want to run up there and retry it as soon as possible while it is fresh in my mind.  Taking the chair up and then re-trying you lose the feel of what you did wrong  imo.

As far as backcountry and sick lines, which i think the op is mainly talking about,  I'd welcome the opportunity.  I think you'd appreciate your turns more knowing you hiked it.

Dec 31 2009 9:18AM
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WVskiing
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i hike the glades and shit at my mtn and hike a rail in my park all the time
Dec 31 2009 9:28AM
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DrZoidberg
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There's no hike-able terrian besides the park in NJ, right? If there is, where the hell is it? If I lived somewhere like out west where I could hike in late september or something to ski fresh snow I'd be out there all day. When I go to Abasin on spring break I'm gonna go past the lift in the bowl and hike back.
Dec 31 2009 9:32AM
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H8CH
Posts: 2709 - Karma: 218

Why Hike when you can skin? It's a fuck of a lot easier/faster... hiking in deep snow - that's just a school boy error.... ;-)

Take a lift as far as you can go - then hike yo ass off all day long... after the Christmas eating and drinking shenanigans... i need to hike some shit!!

Dec 31 2009 9:37AM
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Freeskim@n
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hike the park is imo the best way of progression. You can concentrate on a trick and practice it non-stop at the same rail or box until you get the trick.
Dec 31 2009 9:39AM
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I_Am_Mod
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I actually love how 99% of the ppl are too lazy too hike.
That way there's more pow for me and i don't even have to hike that far at all !
Dec 31 2009 10:08AM
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DeSena
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guy that is so false, i dont like hiking whatsoever, i just like skiing normal trails, trees and bumps and then laping through the park and trying to connect tricks in one run, and there is no way im lazy, i play sports all year round, and i do hike sometimes i just prefer to get my turns in on real trails then hiking a little box
Dec 31 2009 10:12AM
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VT_scratch
Posts: 8784 - Karma: 6,235
more freshies for us?
Dec 31 2009 10:21AM
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eljusto.
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Wait? so you can ski without taking a lift? I'll hike if the lines are bad enough, I like it.
Dec 31 2009 10:32AM
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skodeo7
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The less people that hike, the more turns for me. Their lose.
Dec 31 2009 10:48AM
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flexpattern
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Hiking makes it so rewarding and you can boast that you got the best snow because you hiked that bit higher, even if you didn't....


i love to go for a little hike, but if everybody hiked and tracked out the snow you were hunting then there would be not point in hiking... so i don't really care that many people don't hike, better options for those few that do! (like me!!!)

no pain no gain
Dec 31 2009 12:27PM
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teleak
Posts: 2251 - Karma: 105
I like hiking... hiking a rail in the park is a bit annoying, but i do like to hike up mountains on occasion... skinning is actually pretty fun... a pain in the ass but enjoyable, and a great workout
Dec 31 2009 12:40PM
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Obie.
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Exactly, i even go off the trails at my local mtn, to find little lines to ski.
Dec 31 2009 1:41PM
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bob_dole
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hah, well said for sure! a bit of touring mixed in there sure is nice though hey?
Dec 31 2009 1:54PM
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-justice-
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at the very least it keeps me warm.
Dec 31 2009 1:58PM
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DaewonS
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lll hike some rails and shit in our park but no way in hell would i hike to ski the groomers. id also hike to hit some sick line but i dont get the oppurtunity very often.
Dec 31 2009 2:40PM
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Thenowhereman42
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I never hike anything in the park but would totally hike some gnarley lines.
Dec 31 2009 3:15PM
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Roy
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I will always hike for better snow or spends hours hiking a rail or jump to learn a new trick. It's not always my favorite thing to do (in a perfect world you could just ski continuiously) but it's usually very worth it and there are lots of advantages! 
Dec 31 2009 7:58PM
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spliff.Life
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people are lazy
Dec 31 2009 8:02PM
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BIG_SALTY
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dude seriously i hate when people complain. I love to hike. I feel like i earn the turn, after every hike i turn to the people on the lift and say fuck you slackers
Dec 31 2009 8:57PM
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Fischer-Addicted
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soooooooooo true man. thats why i hang with my friends and not with my parents...
Dec 31 2009 9:39PM
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J.D.
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While we're on the subject, you know what else would mean more freshies? The end of the fat ski. Seriously, those of you who end up working in skiing, we desperately need some sort of conspiracy, like a skiing illuminati, whose goal is to end fat skis forever so that everyone and their mom is skiing on skinny little carving sticks again. I would happily go back to the era where 85mm waists are really really fat if it means I'm the only one in the bowl. It's gotten to the point where I barely get good lines anymore. Maybe 2-3 laps then it's tracked. I need a snowmobile.
Jan 1 2010 8:32PM
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k2extremesteez
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Dude im with you on this one cuz even today i was workin on some shit off a jump in our park and by the time i got to the bottom, waited in line, rode up, and skiied down to the park id forgotten what i did wrong the last time or what i was really focusing on. Hiking fuckin rules. End of story.
Jan 1 2010 8:44PM
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twin-tip-hero
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i hike every now and then.  the only time i really do hike is when i am pissed off at myself for messing up, or want to try something really bad.  but if i could i would hike alot more then what i do.  mostly i don't hike because the people i roll with just dont want to hike at all, or if i do hike they just wait at the bottom of the rail.  then they bitch about how longs its taking.  so i just chose not to deal with it and ski down all the time.

Jan 1 2010 9:05PM
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line4u
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>?
Jan 1 2010 9:10PM
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Roy
Posts: 1982 - Karma: 1,240

I agree as awesome as what fat skis allow talented skiers to do they also allow people with comparitively low ability levels to access sick shit. I am one person that has know prob ripping pow on my S4's if I have to (and my powder skis are S5's)!

And get a sled they are highly recommended but be warned you might stop skiing as much. 

Jan 1 2010 9:46PM
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Piste.Off
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My friends and I hike to our favorite spot at winter park multiple times a day. we hardly ever see anyone there, and theres always fresh untracked snow for days after a decent dump.
please stick to lifts and groomers, leave the good skiing for us :)
Jan 1 2010 9:53PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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I'm pretty sure people paying $80 for a 1 day lift ticket aren't taking their ride up for granted...
Jan 2 2010 2:23AM
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SFBv420.0
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I believe it's know

(wink)

Jan 2 2010 10:31AM
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ap-huhn
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two days ago i did my first snowshoe hike and it was so much fun.

last winter in japan i used to hike/traverse a lot. so rewarding and you'll get the good stuff to ski
Jan 2 2010 10:52AM
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Drail
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I was on the lift this morning (pow day) with this dude who was rocking 205cm, 70mm underfoot, straight out of the early 90's or older. It was great! We were talking about the difference between his and my 190 Bibby Pro's.

Me though - it's not what's under the feet, it's where you take them. Today was the busiest day I have ever seen at Red Mountain - but I just went to the unmarked, gnar runs - had top to bottom untracked (like, literally untracked) all morning. 6 runs of steep, deep, and gnar - had to "hike" 20 meters for it. It was enough for no one to follow.
Jan 2 2010 4:35PM
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120494435941
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i hike smaller features when working on new tricks but honestly why would you make a thread about this let alone care about the topic?
Jan 2 2010 5:02PM
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Abc567def
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one of the most rewarding things is hiking a cliff trying to land something and finally stomping it for the first time
Jan 2 2010 5:58PM
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Drail
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same reason you spent the time to respond to it?
Jan 2 2010 7:48PM
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jca
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my last run today on paleface was untracked.

Jan 2 2010 7:52PM
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steveys
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Maybe soon you will get what you want, and it will be the "cool thing" to do.  And gapers will cause a bunch of avalanches on the killer back country runs, and all the cool terrain will be skied off immediately.

Or maybe you will be lucky AND WONT GET YOUR WISH!

Jan 2 2010 8:01PM
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Midwestjibski
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I started running 4 miles every other day a few weeks before ski season so that I would be able to hike rails for hours on end while the lazy out of shape people took the lift.  I love hiking as long as I am fresh.   I'm not a fan of hiking at the end of a huge day though.
Jan 2 2010 8:50PM
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0123456789
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tuckermans ravine, i proved my self at 13, that is all.
Jan 2 2010 9:56PM
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DutchhGutss
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i thought u meant like hiking a nice rail or suttin but ya hiking hills around the house making hits and havin' a good time is cool
Jan 2 2010 10:55PM
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TheNamesHolland
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this is my dream.

i want to live out west near some good hills and do a whole lot of hiking....and snowmobiling :P

but here in southern NY, the only hiking you can do is from strip mall to strip mall.

Jan 2 2010 11:07PM
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ski-swagga
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i bet that at least 95% of newschoolers has at least hiked a rail in their lifetime.
Jan 2 2010 11:08PM
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JahJahBinks
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One of my friends I ski with refuses to go do any trails 95% of the time. And would'nt even consider hiking. All he does is park and he can't slide a rail. Or anything that you have to pop on...anything.
Jan 2 2010 11:12PM
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