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People who refuse to hike

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Drail
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So, I'm not really calling anyone out on NS, and I don't think I am referring to the majority. Actually I have no idea as to how many people fit into this category, but here we go:

People who just straight up refuse to accept walking uphill as a form of transportation to get your turns in. I find a lot of our parents generation (the baby boomers, if you will - 'cause some of you younger kids probably have cool parents that aren't in the baby boomers category) are lazy pieces of shit that are so immersed in their fake world of luxury that unless there is a chairlift to take them to the top of the mountain, skiing just isn't an option. Even after taking that lift up, if there is a 20 second, 5m vertical gain to get to an absolutely amazing run, it's not even a consideration for them.

The way I look at it, our sport is about skiing DOWN a mountain. Too many people take for granted how we get UP the mountain, and their refusal to work, even in the slighted, to get to that downhill ride is truly a shame. I think it reflects the social and mental evolution of our species and how pathetic and ignorant we really are becoming.

I'll end my rant here with fear of going off course and opening up a can that should be left alone.



Are there any amongst us that would never, will never, and have never hiked? I would assume not, because even if it's a rail, a jump, the pipe - it's still hiking. It's more those who ski groomers, or the fair weather skiers, or the inbounds powder snobs (way, WAY worse than any park rat could ever be).


Your thoughts?
Dec 30 2009 7:54PM
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joshua
Posts: 5046 - Karma: 1,280
It's so much more rewarding when you hike. Riding lifts gets boring, and it's fun once in a while to skip going to the resort and just hike hills around my house and make jumps and stuff.
Dec 30 2009 7:58PM
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.jesus.
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yeah i like to hike to find sick lines
Dec 30 2009 8:02PM
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i.ski.troll.
Posts: 4692 - Karma: 247
I hike all the time even when we have a tow rope in our park, its so much more rewarding and you feel a lot better about your self knowning that you earned that run you just did.  Plus your staying a lot more fit than the kids who take the Lift/Rope/Tbar.  
Dec 30 2009 8:02PM
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BootySpunk.
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I ski Indiana so I never had to hike since we had a chair lift for our park but when I moved out to Montana I hiked up Bridger and earned my first turns at the end of September and it was a fucking bitch but worth every second of it on the way down..

And hiking the rails in a park make you want to get a trick you are working so much better and you feel way more accomplished because you earned it.
Dec 30 2009 8:05PM
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philcote4
Posts: 225 - Karma: 10

i find that hiking the park actually helps you learn shit. let's say you're thinking of trying that one trick that you really wanna be able to do, and you're about to pussy out, you stop and think "fuck man, i just hiked this shit just so i can go and do some lame ass trick that ive been doing for years? fuck that, grow some balls and get er done."

thats how i see it anyways

oh and hiking bc for some untracked lines is so worth it

Dec 30 2009 8:07PM
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wheres_my_snow
Posts: 473 - Karma: 11
you make a good point with the staying fit there are lots of skiers and snowboarders iknow who most likely couldn't hike
Dec 30 2009 8:08PM
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eheath
Posts: 61602 - Karma: 123,042
We're just spoiled that's all and as long as lifts exist and people still make money to use the, we will stayed spoiled, that's just how shit works.
Dec 30 2009 8:10PM
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srtmc5430
Posts: 48 - Karma: 16
i hate lines soooo word
Dec 30 2009 8:11PM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
A lot of people do not see skiing as a sport and aren't really interested in exerting themselves. I love this fact. It is the only thing that allows me to still get repeated lines through freshies. I pray that people just get lazier and lazier. Preferably stick to the groomers.
Dec 30 2009 8:11PM
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.jesus.
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*them

and this to
Dec 30 2009 8:11PM
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b-ladd
Posts: 2300 - Karma: 48
As out of shape as I am, and as much as I hate hiking, if there's snow on the ground, I'm going skiing, and if hiking is the only option, then I'm hoofin it up there. The way I see it, if your not willing to earn your turns, you just don't truly love it, and your not really a skier.
Dec 30 2009 8:13PM
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KNUCKifyouBUCK
Posts: 1330 - Karma: 9
i don't think i realized there were people who WOULDN'T hike to hit a sick line... maybe its just because im from the east and would walk a mile just to ski some knee high
Dec 30 2009 8:21PM
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Mr.SoloDolo
Posts: 1138 - Karma: 150
At Breckenridge, me and my brother took the lift that takes you near the top of the peak 8 summit. Once you get off the lift you can hike 50 to 100 feet to get you truly to the top and have a perfect 360 degree view. We decided to hike it and as we do this we see husband and wife. The husband is holding the wifes skis and all the wife has to do is hike with her poles. The whole way up the wife is bitching, "Honey, why are we doing this is so dumb", "The view is that much better" (which it is way worth it). Until about half way up the wife screams at her husband to give her her skis and she skies down. It made me so angry.
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Dec 30 2009 8:26PM
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steezerampage
Posts: 2171 - Karma: 214

The younger the generation the lazier they are, period.  I know my generation is total shit compared to my Grandpas.

I like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOtEQB-9tvk

Dec 30 2009 8:26PM
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Malcolm
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the only time of the year where i actually get into shape somewhat is at the begining of the season when theres only a couple rails and stuff. the only thing that bothers me about hiking is that my goggles fog
Dec 30 2009 8:30PM
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MoistAbode
Posts: 1132 - Karma: 37
exactly the way i see it! and you think about the trick more when you are hiking a rail. it almost forces you to think of every little detail to see what you're doing wrong.
Dec 30 2009 8:32PM
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Baskin.
Posts: 1387 - Karma: 13
its always fun just to hike a few features instead of hoping on the mad slow lift and wasting time.....you can just hang out try to get your tricks take breaks when your tired and then just keep on hiking
Dec 30 2009 8:32PM
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1337
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i love hiking, simple as that. if people (like my brother or cousin or whoever i am skiing with) refuse too hike i ditch them and get to feel good about what i do.
Dec 30 2009 8:35PM
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YoungJah
Posts: 1106 - Karma: 66
Using lifts to reach the top of the mountain, skiing park or groomers, isn't true skiing. True skiing is skinning or hiking to earn you're turns.

Dec 30 2009 8:40PM
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ski_ENDUB
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as long as those turns are in at a minimum knee depth. hiking for stuff thats already been skied sucks. I'll hike for something really good but not mediocre.
Dec 30 2009 8:42PM
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Avifarer
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my hellbents are too heavy to hike
Dec 30 2009 8:45PM
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fountain.
Posts: 1399 - Karma: 80
i hike alot, even if its unnecessary. i like it cause it keeps you warm, it is alot faster than lifts with the lines and such, you can ride a certain feature again and again, plus it feels rewarding. my parents avoid hiking because there really arent any situations where it would be necessary, but im sure they would if they actually needed to.
Dec 30 2009 8:47PM
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Drail
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now now, don't be an elitist, or you can go hang out in TGR. It's all skiing man.
Dec 30 2009 8:52PM
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wintersway
Posts: 5115 - Karma: 128
hiking gets you so much more fresh terrain too.

my friends and i were adventuring in the woods and saw a nice line from where we were. with a quick look uphill, we immediately took our gear off and headed up the hill. a foot of powder and a much longer line with perfectly spaced trees is so worth the extra 5 minutes of walking up hill.

Dec 30 2009 8:56PM
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A.Eberhard
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I always hike rails and jumps. It really allows you to concentrate on the trick you want and you learn much faster because you get more hits in on a single day. Now for regualar skiing, I ski in the northeast and my mountain is a good size 2,100 vertical feet. So their are some good area to hike into and ski some trees, and I will if their is fresh pow pow on the ground, I would never hike for groomers.

Dec 30 2009 9:04PM
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YoungJah
Posts: 1106 - Karma: 66
I'm not...that's just my option.

And i personally can't stand the people on TRG. They come across ass smart asses, who think they no it all.
Dec 30 2009 9:11PM
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Drail
Posts: 14012 - Karma: 10,010
well than how 'bout biglines.com although their forum is pretty dead these days.

just seams odd for you to be on NS when your opinion puts, oh, 98% of the members of this site in the category of "not true skiers". seams very close minded and elitist to me.
Dec 30 2009 9:28PM
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304NordMan
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im a telemarker, i urn my turns more than i use a lift
Dec 30 2009 9:32PM
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jamodeo
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i don't like hiking but i do it if we're filming or its preseason i am definitely down to hike tuckermans ravine is sick even though its a hike i had o hike the whole park just to sesh a rail today and almost 5 minutes after i got to the rail they started the lift again but thats just how it goes i guess
Dec 30 2009 9:38PM
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Literature
Posts: 13673 - Karma: 3,085
Hiking generally begets better snow, it gives exercise, it warms me up, it gives me more chances to get a trick I'm working on, and it allows me to ski year round. I'm a fan.
Dec 30 2009 9:39PM
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billay
Posts: 270 - Karma: 59
dont complain.... the less that people hike, the more fresh pow we can get.

play the game
Dec 30 2009 9:47PM
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BShear66
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Unless you wake up SUPER early for fresh tracks (and that's only when it's snowed like mad) the only way to get to fresh pow is to hike in to an area. That's why it's worth it same with hiking the park. The reward of hiking is to hit a fresh line or nail a trick in the park.
Dec 30 2009 10:27PM
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Idahoskier420
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ill hike to hit anything. walking up is almost as fun as skiing down. ill hike anything 'ery all day
Dec 30 2009 10:32PM
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neon1peace
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Earn your turns
Dec 30 2009 10:40PM
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bumblebeetuna
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Today I saw kids hiking to hit a jump, but they hiked like 3/4 of the hill. total waste of time, but I like hiking for rails to get tricks down.

Dec 30 2009 10:41PM
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landonn
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thats exactly right. like if there was no lift i would hike but fuck, theres a lift, why not use it. and people can do wat they want.
Dec 30 2009 10:59PM
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Leveroni
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yesterday I hiked the same two boxes for literally 2 hours. (the rest of the mountain was ice and just freezing..as in the coldest thing i have ever experienced, plus it poured for the previous two days)
so the only option was to really hike these boxes..everyone left. me and my boy were the only ones hiking..it turned out to be one of the best days of skiing i had in a while.
Dec 30 2009 11:02PM
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jibbnsteezy
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I hike sometimes. but my mountains is pretty small but I'll hike to be on the rail to practice on to get my trick on.
Dec 31 2009 12:40AM
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heFF
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definately way more rewarding getting a shot after hiking for it
Dec 31 2009 12:48AM
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Bradyballin101
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Idk if so much as people being lazy or spoiled as much as i can sit there and hit one box or jump all day and not get bored of it.

like my mom doesnt ride park so i dont expect her to sit there and hike a mile long run instead of ride the chair, but she would be willing to hike a little for some pow.

Dec 31 2009 12:49AM
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Shark.
Posts: 3158 - Karma: 270
i like the way you think.
but basically like what everyone is saying, hiking is that much more rewarding when you find those sick untracked runs
Dec 31 2009 1:59AM
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ScuffDUFF
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i dont mind hiking when i need to.  but im down with chairlifts.  call me a lazy peice of shit, whatever.   Chairlifts are the shit.
Dec 31 2009 2:04AM
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Tripplesixty
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I earn my turns pre and post season.. no need to really hike when lifts are running, but off season on a normal day I hike 3000 vertical to get in some turns and every step is worth it. But I think with chair lifts we are able to enjoy that same thing many times over in one day, and I work damn hard in the summer to pay for my lift tickets.
Dec 31 2009 2:10AM
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StupidDeep
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i hike alot and so does my mom not so much my dad (cant ski anything worth hiking)
Dec 31 2009 3:55AM
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traylortrash
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I've found that hiking is pretty much the only way i can progress on rails, so yeah, I hike a ton
Dec 31 2009 4:34AM
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Holte
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I don't really feel any reward in hiking for my turns, since in the end it's the skiing down that matters, not the trek up. If anything I love that lifts/sleds allow me to conserve energy for the trip down the mountain. But there are tons of times when it's a lot easier to hike a pipe or rail rather than take a five minute lift ride for the full run. And when hitting backcountry jumps or skiing backcountry or glaciers in the summer, there aren't usually any lifts nearby. I don't really enjoy hiking with skis, but once you move past the point of being a weekend-warrior-casual-groomer-skier, it's almost impossible not to hike regularly.
Dec 31 2009 5:47AM
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YoungJah
Posts: 1106 - Karma: 66
I like biglines.....But i've not been on there for ages.

Ok.......Maybe i shouldn't of said that. The only reason i come on to NS, is to look through the fourm and read all the posts, check out the sick edit's and photos.
Dec 31 2009 7:36AM
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michael_bc
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What are you complaining about? The less people hike, the more fresh lines we get to shred.
Dec 31 2009 7:50AM
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calypso_
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watervilles gota an old abandonned ski mtn that we hike and build booters all over it, mad fun and rewarding when you know you have earned your turns
Dec 31 2009 7:53AM
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