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Getting bindings tomorrow - help me decide! FKS140 v. Marker Jester on Line Prophet 100s

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hord1080
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what's goin on!!!  I know everyone hates these types of threads but after searching a lot I am still torn between putting Marker Jesters or Rossi FKS 140's on my new Line Prophet 100's and I don't want to mess it up!  Ski season is comin on hard and I want to get some runs in this weekend at Mt. Creek before heading up to VT.

I will be using these mostly in the trees and on powder days with some jumps thrown in for good measure (although if I am doing just park I will probably use my CR Johnson 1080's with Look PX 12 Jibs).  I know FKS is "legendary" for preventing pre-release and all that stuff, and the guy at the shop says Line recommends Marker's (same company) and they have a low swing weight and wide mount.  Either of these better at preventing knee injury?  I have heard turntable bindings are better but I have also read that the toepiece may not release upwards as good if you fall backwards?  I dunno I want to make the right decision and not think about it and I have read great things about both.  Also I hear that FKS is a bitch to click back into if there is powder if that is a consideration...

I am a 6" 190lb 27 yr old expert on 179's if that helps. 

Dec 17 2009 3:39PM
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GNARBARSTAR
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fks's can be a bitch to click into in pow i second that. the 140's have 180 degree release so safe toe.
get which ever one has a longer warrenty
Dec 17 2009 3:45PM
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snakepirate
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Dude, you are like my twin.

I am 6' 200, lbs and just bought some new prophet 100's size 186 though.

I have been torn too on deciding what I want to get, jester, griffon, fks or sth 16. 

it is a hard decision let me know what you decide becaue I am torn too.  I think I like the jesters.  Marker have never really let me down.  Salomon have let me down in the past, but never had rossi bindings. 

Where do you ski?

Dec 17 2009 4:57PM
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hord1080
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that's too funny man.  were u set on the 186?  I hope the 179 isn't too short that was the last pair around here...

yeah dunno which to get I've had salomon's on my blue old 1080s that were fine, markers on my orange 1080s which were fine, and look's on my cr johnsons which were also fine.  I'll let you know...

I live 25 min from Mt. Creek in NJ so I ski there a lot although it's like one big park now.  I try and ski mt. snow, killington and stratton as much as possible also.  what about u?

Dec 17 2009 5:56PM
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bibs_skibum
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well, jesters are all plastic. And the heelpiece of the fks is all metal. Ive been riding my FKS for years and ive never had any trouble. I know a kid with p18s (fks 185s) that he's been using for 7 years and they are still functioning. Plus im a big fan of the safety and retention of the turntable heel
Dec 17 2009 6:31PM
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JayDope
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wrong, the griffons are all plastic, jesters have metal in the hell as well as some in the toe. They are SUPERRR light, and ive used them for a couple days now, and they were bombbass. Ive had look'p12's 180 turntable not the same as the 360 heel piece, they were pretty good as well, but i really like the jesters way better already. I ski at mt. creek as well, i just got back for a short session, some stuff setup, 4 small jumps. and icy
Dec 17 2009 7:03PM
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rj.
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only thing wrong with jesters are the brakes

i broke both mine in the first 2 weeks of the season. fks metal brakes are where its at

and you can't really go wrong with either binding, you'll like them both
Dec 17 2009 7:13PM
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zack_h123
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well iv got a pair of prophet 100s with jesters and really wish i put sth 16s or some fks on them, basicly the auto toe height adjustment is shit on the jesters, i get about 2mm of vertical play in my toepiece (i no its not much but its really anoying) also the piece that fits over the lug of the boot at the back chips/cracks easily and almost half of mine has chipped off, just put a pair of sth 16s on my ep pros and love them, and put a pair of look px 18s on my dynastar xxls and love them aswell, i used to be a fan of the marker royal family until i skiied on them for a season,

if i was you id put a pair of solly sth 16s on them, and youl love em!

hope this helps

Dec 17 2009 8:09PM
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onenerdykid
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If you do break the FKS brakes, they'll run you about $120 to replace... That said, I vouch for both binders but I do think the Jester is where it's at.
Dec 17 2009 8:46PM
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zack_h123
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btw it seems to be only with some salomon and dalbello boots that you get the problems with the play in the toepiece, does anyone know if you can get higher/taller AFD's for the jesters?
Dec 17 2009 8:53PM
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LMPJibbin
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i say jesters
Dec 17 2009 10:47PM
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Triple_Strum
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so far no one has given great input as to why one and not th eother.  I've ridden prophet 100s and I can say have a wider bindings is preferable in ripping hardpack turns.  In that way I would go for the Jesters.  The FKS are sick and I wouldn't put anything else on park sticks if I had the choice.  BUt as a pow ski, why not go for wider and more lightweight?
Dec 17 2009 10:53PM
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Dylan_
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i'm picking up my 140's tmr. soooooo pumped
Dec 17 2009 10:55PM
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bibs_skibum
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FKS brakes are 40 bucks to replace if you order directly from rossignol as of a week ago when i bought new brakes
Dec 17 2009 11:07PM
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Milkshakes
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Get whatever is cheapest.  They are all good bindings.  I will say that I'm 6-1 210 and have STH 16's on my 186 prophet 100's; I love them, such a bomber binding.

Dec 18 2009 9:03AM
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hord1080
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thanks for the response.

welllll I guess I am leaning towards the Jesters although that toe self-adjustment problem sounds a little bothersome. 

What about mounting point on the ski? Right on the recommended line?

Dec 18 2009 10:25AM
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Milkshakes
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At your size, I would definitely not go ahead of the line.  Mine are mounted at recommended and I like them there.  I have heard a lot about bigger guys mounting them 1cm back of the Rec. line for better pow performance, however, I would think too much  behind recommended would result in a loss of quickness.  It is a very quick ski mounted on the line.

Dec 18 2009 10:46AM
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hord1080
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aight I have decided to get the Jesters and I will let you know how they hold up this year everyone.  goin to the shop now I hear NJ is getting around 6" or more this weekend!!!
Dec 18 2009 11:21AM
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BossHogg
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Anyone know how wide the brake is on last years FKS 120s??
Dec 20 2009 2:11PM
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