Rail stains - yes I searched

I use Shout Spray and Wash to pretreat and them regular detergent and it works pretty well, but I don't know if it will ruin the waterproofing on your outerwear (I have Oakley pants and they are still just a waterproof after about 3 or 4 washes).

i would just run it its very hard to notice and i dont think it is worth the risk of hurting your gear

I forgot to say that I wash with cold water...

This might sound ridiculous but it works, cut a lemon in half and rub it on the stain. Put your jacket out in the sun until it dries, then stick it in the wash. It worked for both me and my bro, hope this helps.

this isn't crazy at all. i'll give my two cents as a person 1 year from finish my phd in inorganic/metal chemistry. most if not all rail stains are rust(or you sh*t your pants which iis a whole other problem) which are iron oxides. the best way to dissolve metals is using acids so the trick is finding an acid that won't tear up your clothes. depending on how bad your stain is, lemon juice, dilute acetic acid(vinegar) or products using oxalic acid should take stains right out. just use them first on a corner of your clothing to make sure it won't discolor the clothing and always start more dilute if using oxalic acid cleaners.

hope that helps

does it matter?

would you be interested in working for me and doing my laundry.   You sound like you know more on the topic then most mothers.

that's what happens when you go to school for to long. you suck at skiing but god damn, you can clean clothes like a badass.