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SAGA+LDC+TREW+FD read up

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smuggs
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i propose that each of you send me a suit. i will try my hardest to destroy it. and test the limits of it. i will try each suit for one month. i will write a report on your suit, unbiased etc. i feel like companies and the magazines give you biased exposure based on who spends the most on an add. i will not. i feel like newschoolers is most of your customer base, and anyone who buys either suit thinks its the dopest shit conceived so obviously you have to take any of these with a grain of salt. one person has to put these suits to the test. i think it is me.

i have really sharp crampons, often ski into trees, and crash on rails. i like to hike, ride the lifts, and be outside in the freezing cold. i like to be outside in ultra blower, and super wet snow. sometimes i wear a backpack all day, sometimes i dont. i like to wear my ski clothes around town, and on the hill. sometimes i have a harness over my ski pants, sometimes i camp over night in the snow. sometimes i am hiking for 8 hours and ski down.

i will write a report and make a video based on all aspects of the clothes.

anyone scared? NS NEEDS THIS.

what does ns think, good idea, bad idea?

Dec 10 2009 2:04PM
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MNS
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you fucking genius, you hit the jackpot
Dec 10 2009 7:49PM
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fouldsys
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i think this is a cool idea. however, you shouldnt be aloud to keep the suits. i would be very jealous. send them back or something and they could do like a follow up. maybe even perform some tests on waterproofness/breathability or something.
Dec 10 2009 7:55PM
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thegoat
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trew is gonna clean up.
Dec 10 2009 7:59PM
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OGHolliday
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3 for 4. Damn you are one lucky dude. Good luck with FD.

Good idea I really look forward to the information you gather about all the coats it will really help consumers and companies next year.
Dec 10 2009 8:01PM
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MNS
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i cant think of reasons why or why not he should keep them. not keeping them seems like its a lot more professional and hes doing it strictly for a review and not 4 pieces of outerwear, but keeping them would be cool hahah so i dunno.
Dec 10 2009 8:02PM
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JStrathern
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winner
Dec 10 2009 8:05PM
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bibs_skibum
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holy crap. Perfect job for this dude man, he'll ski them hard and put each suit to the test for sure. Too bad that after his season each suit will only have 1/4 of a season of abuse to it unless he splits the suits up among his friends so we can see what a season of hard abuse does. Killer idea for independent ski outerwear companies comparison
Dec 10 2009 8:07PM
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MNS
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yeah, its a super good idea, but this is FD's first season so its a tad unfair in the sense that some other companies have had chances to fix previous errors and mistakes from the past. Also, i bet sometimes shit happens to gear that isn't the companies fault and wouldn't happen if the customer had chosen the exact same model of jacket but just a different one. Trying to say that, even though gear is or isn't reliable i'd still be happy buying some gear that has been known to have a few mistakes, as long as i knew the company had my back. ex) i heard tons of good reviews about saga's customer service. so i wouldnt worry if a heard about a couple mishaps with their jackets cause i know they're legit
Dec 10 2009 8:20PM
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MNS
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yeah, its a super good idea, but this is FD's first season so its a tad unfair in the sense that some other companies have had chances to fix previous errors and mistakes from the past. Also, i bet sometimes shit happens to gear that isn't the companies fault and wouldn't happen if the customer had chosen the exact same model of jacket but just a different one. Trying to say that, even though gear is or isn't reliable i'd still be happy buying some gear that has been known to have a few mistakes, as long as i knew the company had my back. ex) i heard tons of good reviews about saga's customer service. so i wouldnt worry if a heard about a couple mishaps with their jackets cause i know they're legit
Dec 10 2009 8:20PM
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Totes_Magotes
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I couldn't help myself from just giving a little disbelieving chuckle when i saw all the companies who are "in"... but i guess that just goes to show how legit some could be
Dec 10 2009 8:22PM
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smuggs
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great! i think its still fair to include FD considering they claim to have seen a problem with the outerwear industry and are out to fix it. i think this is great, and will be in touch with these various companies.

the suits weather i keep them or not, i dont care either way. this isnt something where you go out of your way to keep your shit mint, they are going to be some rough stuff goin down. i feel like given this opurtunity i/we have to bust em up a little.

since ninthward just dropped hint of some outerwear maybe they want to get involved with this too.

as far as a timetable. i would love to loan these suits out to people i would make up a diary for each suit. i have idea of tests to do prior to loaning them out and when i get them back. this probably wouldnt be completed this winter, i think the suits have to make it to mt hood and whistler as well.

as far as big companies getting in on this. i think we should keep it to the little guys for now. the big names dont really need any kind of extra exposure. but if oakley or spyder stepped up and sent me a suit i probably wouldnt let it sit around.

and like has been mentioned, not just the consumer but the company could have a lot to learn.

after a little research i found that trew offers only a 3 layer option, i was under the asumption that they had a 2 layer it would be tough to fairly compare a 3 layer and 2layer. we can figure something out.




Dec 10 2009 8:46PM
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smuggs
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also i am not assuming there is even a winner. maybe they all score the same. who knows.
Dec 10 2009 8:51PM
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bibs_skibum
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if this does go down, you should totally write a blog on it. It would be so helpful for sure
Dec 10 2009 8:52PM
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VCharette
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Are you fuckin serious, did that just really happen?? I was gonna come and tell you how much of a fuckin idiot you are but you sir just won epicly haha wow so sick props for the epic win!
Dec 10 2009 8:53PM
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J-Neal
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You sir are a genius.  Such a good idea, I can't wait to see the test results.
Dec 10 2009 8:58PM
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Luc.
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ahahaha
Dec 10 2009 9:00PM
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B-runge
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THIS IS JUST PISSING ME OFF
haha
four free suits
smuggs your mind control somehow worked
fuck that
Dec 10 2009 9:06PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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first drop where are you? haha
Dec 10 2009 9:13PM
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psychkub
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epic win here.

I can't believe this just happened!!
Dec 10 2009 9:18PM
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Noss.
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WTF he got all the suits, IM CALLING SHENANIGANS!!!!!!
Dec 10 2009 9:21PM
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Pinguu
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It worked, so you got owned... to the OP, you are a fucking genius, such a good idea man. Good luck!
Dec 10 2009 9:30PM
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Stuck.in.ohio
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Wow, this is great customer service from some really core companies

At first it seemed like a well written plea for new gear, but this is something that should definitely be done considering how generic and short the reviews from freeskier are, hopefully yours are much better

Dec 10 2009 9:37PM
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butteredpretzel
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holy jizz
Dec 10 2009 9:39PM
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TOAST.
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I can not believe everyone is down with this.

Just going to throw this out there. Can I call DIBS on a suit if you get rid of them.(Don't care what condition its in) 

Dec 10 2009 9:41PM
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TOAST.
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I can not believe everyone is down with this.

Just going to throw this out there. Can I call DIBS on a suit if you get rid of them.(Don't care what condition its in) 

Dec 10 2009 9:42PM
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B-runge
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dibs voided by double post
Dec 10 2009 9:46PM
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c.hale
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wow that's awesome of those companies
Dec 10 2009 9:49PM
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smuggs
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i just wrote emails to

SAGA
TREW
LDC
FD
NWARD

we will see how this turns out,
Dec 10 2009 9:55PM
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belden...
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DONT FUCK THIS UP AND WAIST THE COMPANIES PRODUCTS
make sure you take notes with date and everything
Dec 10 2009 10:01PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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You said you want to test in Whistler..

I'm a big mountain rider and do a lot of hike and ride,

Just received my Saga suit, but if you want help reviewing legitimately,

Hit me up.
Dec 10 2009 10:04PM
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B-runge
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DONT FUCK THIS UP AND SPELL WASTE WRONG
oh wait....
Dec 10 2009 10:07PM
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dangerdad
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haha this is epic.
Dec 10 2009 10:18PM
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daringharry9
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
smuggs is like the kid on christmas who got all the cool presents.
Dec 10 2009 10:31PM
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thenakedcellist
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WHAAAAT> kid just triple won. ballin
Dec 10 2009 10:32PM
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R@ggaMuffin
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I have some good feelings about this thread. Why am i not mildly intelligent?
Dec 10 2009 10:53PM
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.brian
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OP is currently the smartest man on NS
Dec 10 2009 11:07PM
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thegoat
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this thread is just ripe with jealousy.

it does not matter if he gets to keep the suits himself. If this never happened you would not have gotten a suit out of it. If it does, you won't get a suit out of it.
The only difference is that if it does happen you will be a better informed customer in the future. If it does not, then you will just be where you are now.

stop bitching about fair this and fair that, I think this is a great thing for both customers and the companies involved.

I would say just rate whatever they send you, if you get a 3L suit, review it. Don't take the price difference into consideration when your reviewing it.
People can then take the reviews for how the gear performed, and knowing the price make their own decision.

Dec 10 2009 11:11PM
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jeremy.g
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you rat bastard
Dec 10 2009 11:17PM
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ISKIBC
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you sir are a smart man.

i ripped the butt seam on my saga pants last year and got a brand new pair!
Dec 10 2009 11:26PM
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lineC88
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the most legit thread i have even seen on NS!
Dec 10 2009 11:28PM
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Ftacnik
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My Threads
Dec 10 2009 11:30PM
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KevCur
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Awesome idea! I can see why most of your are all jealous, i am too a little, but this is benefiting all of us! Thank you, and thank you SAGA, LDC, TREW, (and maby FD??) for simply agreeing to his task
Dec 10 2009 11:45PM
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-ROY-
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you got banned again?
Dec 10 2009 11:47PM
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Funnel
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Great idea. I would keep the testing to one man, because then it is the same abuse and someone who can truly compare each suit. I'm excited to hear the verdict a few months from now.
Dec 10 2009 11:51PM
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*mKas*
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This is a really sick idea.  I wanna see some in-depth reviews of all of these, not just a couple sentences like you usually see.
Dec 11 2009 12:46AM
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zagfan5
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this is awesome. i'm so glad saga, trew and LD stepped up. gives me some hope in the industry when they do legit stuff like this. this is what newschoolers has needed. one or a few people testing every suit with unbiasly and for real. this kid has nothing to gain if he rates sage over trew, or LD over saga. he's just gonna give us an honest review of every suit and sigure out what is best for what. maybe one suit is better for park cause it doesnt get rail stains as bad and has more burly material, or maybe one suit is better in the BC cause its warmer and more waterproof. point is we need rewiews like this. hope this will be stickied in gear talk when the testing is done so many people in the future can look at it and not have to look though a million threads about saga, or trew, ect... to find out how well the gear holds up..

props to the companies for stepping up and props to the OP for being professional about it and having a genuis idea.
Dec 11 2009 6:09AM
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TOAST.
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fuck i double clicked
Dec 11 2009 7:21AM
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Chronic_
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holy shit man.. congrats on this working i hope you really step up and give this your best effort. im lookin forward to see what comes out of this.

Dec 11 2009 7:58AM
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DutchhGutss
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yes same after last year i was still worried but there deffinetly better i think and they help you out way more, crist you get an e-mail back from them in hours..
Dec 11 2009 8:32AM
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OCEAN
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Awesome idea. Way to go to the OP, and to the companies who are down with this.
Dec 11 2009 11:37AM
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