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Jon offered to build the X-games course ...

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luc
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...for free, this is his latest blog entry:

"Lets all cross our fingers and hope for a better course this year, I offered to build it for free, but never got a response to the offer…"

damn they should take him...no one can build better jumps...

Dec 8 2009 2:03PM
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steezc-ross
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that would be awesome
Dec 8 2009 2:04PM
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Alp1ne
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Dam if they had someone like jon build the jumps and Andreas or someone like that build the rails it would be such an ill course.
Dec 8 2009 2:05PM
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Malcolm
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this is sick! hopefully if they let him build it he wont just take away all the rails haha
Dec 8 2009 2:07PM
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deleted5
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do it do it
Dec 8 2009 2:12PM
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BWalmer
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If it happens the Jumps will all be PERFECT... the rails on the other hand might only be meh, but you never know, he might throw together something sick. I hope they let him.
Dec 8 2009 2:17PM
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R.Fahey
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You can have perfect jumps, but the problem with that course is the speed.  It's on such a flat run. 
Dec 8 2009 2:37PM
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doitbig
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I assume espn has some sort of contract with the guys who always build it.
Dec 8 2009 2:40PM
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Jibberino
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It says he never got a reply, so it's prob not gonna happen.

Would make sense though. My impression were that it wasn't so much the jumps, as the lack of spacing between them that was the problem?
Dec 8 2009 2:41PM
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scratchskier321
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this has to happen
Dec 8 2009 2:47PM
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3R1C
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that would be sick!!
Dec 8 2009 2:48PM
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powderhound100
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that'd be sick. I think he'd definitely get some good good rails, not his thing but he would ask people. Also hopefully some creative stuff to make it interesting.
Dec 8 2009 2:49PM
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Aaaron.
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jons not stupid...  he will find someone to pull the rails together.

this would be so sick.
Dec 8 2009 3:26PM
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ap-huhn
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let candide build it!!  (no offense jon)
Dec 8 2009 3:27PM
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EaC
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ya i think they do with SPT, so they will probably do it again this year.
Dec 8 2009 3:28PM
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ski_ENDUB
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won't happen. snowboarders would probably be pissed that it's a skier design course. and pretty sure snowpark tech has a contract with espn
Dec 8 2009 3:29PM
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Dilla
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candide's x-games course would be sooo sick

Jon's would definitely be legit too
Dec 8 2009 3:29PM
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N.Skinner
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I highly doubt the rails would be lame or boring.  His jump designs are clearly creative and innovative...He isnt an Idiot and I'm sure he would recognize the importance of rails in a slope course...
Dec 8 2009 3:34PM
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luc
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ye, too bad they stick to their bad shapers they have all the time
Dec 8 2009 4:52PM
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tbayjibber
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that would be sick. I never see too much wrong with xgames jumps they might be a bit small, but the main problem seems to be that the features are just packed in too tigh
Dec 8 2009 4:55PM
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C-DAWGSTYLEZ
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isnt it a conflict of interest for jon to build the x-games course?
Dec 8 2009 4:59PM
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thelizards
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boom.






this will never happen
Dec 8 2009 5:04PM
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dweezileast
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hey at least jon wouldn't bitch about it if he built it
Dec 8 2009 5:07PM
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Newschool_Pope
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sounds like a sick offer.
Dec 8 2009 5:08PM
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Noah_W
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That would be so sick! Jon builds the best jumps ever!!!!
Dec 8 2009 5:09PM
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sconniestyle
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sounds like the kind of offer you make when you know there is no way anyone will take you up on it.

like oj's reward money offer to find the "real killer"
Dec 8 2009 5:10PM
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^_^iseeyou
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One they'd be huge, gargancuous, ginormous. Props to him and Two Jon Just charges with his sick ass flip like no one else
Dec 8 2009 5:11PM
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I_Am_Mod
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If that's the case, ESPN should pay the contractors, tell them to f* off and ask jon if he wants to give it a try...
last years course was so dangerous....
Dec 8 2009 6:11PM
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dunkaroos
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this would be amazing
Dec 8 2009 6:14PM
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crankdatsoljaboy
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oh yeah the course would be so much better and it would bring the point of a competitor
Dec 8 2009 6:49PM
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tbayjibber
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He's not competing in slopestyle only in big air so no.  If still if he builds it it doesn't mean he's gonna win look at JOSS he built all the features there and got 5th
Dec 8 2009 6:53PM
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Uncle.Badness
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I concur.
Dec 8 2009 7:18PM
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gnarmada
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ya it is suck a flat run speed would be hard
Dec 8 2009 9:13PM
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Holte
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I believe their contract goes through 2012.
Dec 8 2009 9:13PM
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WVskiing
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lol, the bottom money booter would be a 130 ft 20 ft step down
Dec 8 2009 9:15PM
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Fischer-Addicted
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andreas is participating this year so theres no way theyd let him do it but yea hed make a sick setup too
Dec 8 2009 10:07PM
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jonaolsson
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Is SPT the best in the business or do people think so because they build the X games?
Remember the "death gap" in San Francisco that so many people got hurt on and no one did anything good on, guess who built that...

Aspen just signed on for 10 more years, so I don't think that the slopes are about to change. Key issue is to take out features to give space for fewer good ones, we have been trying to tell them so for many years (together with Snowboarders) but nothing changes...

Br JON
Dec 8 2009 10:08PM
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SHampson
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From the man himself!  Jon for President (of X-games building)!
Dec 8 2009 10:11PM
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T_orageskiier
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lmao yeah knowing jon's jumps haha
Dec 8 2009 10:22PM
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C_Perin
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smart man! i have respect for you!
Dec 8 2009 10:34PM
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Balto
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xgames is such a joke, now that we have a winter dew tour there really is no competition in my eyes.
Dec 8 2009 11:07PM
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CFD
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It's not that SPT can't build good features - from what I've heard the issue is that they are instructed to build 'impressive' courses and features. This shit comes from ESPN, not from SPT.
Dec 8 2009 11:21PM
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jonaolsson
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Sure ESPN wants spectacular TV, but I don't think that uphill rail landings, kinked takeoffs and convex landings is in the order form.
There might be 20% truth in what you say, but there is no reason that a spectacular course cant be good, thats all SPT.

Important to say is that SPTs Pipe department is the best in the world, they do an amazing job, but when it comes to the jumps they just don't know what they are doing.
Dec 8 2009 11:31PM
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Blandct
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it's a shame that with all the negativity about last year that haven't wised up
Dec 8 2009 11:34PM
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Malcolm
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this is exactly the battle im having with my home mountain!
Dec 8 2009 11:34PM
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Sun_Ra
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How would you have done last year's run in order to make it better ?
I think that one less jump and two bigger ones would have been awesome. The jump after the cannon box looked rather small and the two last hits were way to close. I think that when Colby West had to jump on the last jump's takeoff it was a good exemple of that. The rail section up top seemed legit.
Dec 8 2009 11:43PM
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ReetsAdeets
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Red Bull should do a comp for skiers and downhill mountain bikers where they build their own course.
Dec 9 2009 12:04AM
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Triple_Strum
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I no professional jump builder, but that course could use a little touch from Jon.  Call it what you want, but when only 2 of a field of the best riders in the world will attempt one of the features (channel gap), then something is wrong.  Space is only oneof the issues with the course.
Dec 9 2009 12:10AM
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BrothaBrote
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This
Dec 9 2009 12:31AM
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HeartBeatFaster
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I believe SPT is the best in the business simply because of a lack of competition. I can see why they are the chosen team as they definitely have the resources to build anything a person could dream, ( www.snowparktech.com). They can roll in with their own cats and tools and go to work. Anybody else would have to borrow or rent the resorts and jump through a bunch of hoops to get a course built. However, like you and the snowboarders have said, SPT  does not have the athlete intervention. It is so unfortunate that ESPN can only see the one side of things especially after the injuries and competitors withdrawing from the comp. Apparently, cramming more 6-7 rated features into a course adds up to more than fewer perfect 10's.

That said, can you work with SPT on the project or are they too stubborn to take advice from the best jump builder in the world?



Dec 9 2009 12:46AM
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Roy
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I would agree. Although I didn't ride the course ever, just seeing last year's X games course you could tell the features were just one right right after the other (like too close). The worst being the Transfer Jump to Money Booter. It was like if you didn't almost knuckle the Transfer so you could start cutting in for the Money Booter, you wouldn't be able to hit the Money. From one side angle I saw it look liked the money booter's take off was starting on the Transfer Jumps landing.

To bad they don't realize better spacing and safer set ups would allow the riders to throw down harder as they would be more comfortable, which would make it that much more spectacular. There would also be the added bonus of a little snow not ruining the speeds. 

Ps MegaMo is so pretty kinda like your ski suit, your car and, your gf

Dec 9 2009 12:48AM
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