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what?
Tyrolia Peak 15s, or 18s. And Disorderlys are sure better than any Line symmetrical ski, but I still don't think any symmetrical ski compares to a ski that was actually made to carve(Pipe Cleaners, Extremes, TNKs, AR6s..). I still want to try Reno Jibs though, maby they will prove what I've found so far wrong.