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sagesnow
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okay so you all know the guy who killed four cops right? yeah well hes one of my best friends cousin and guess what? as soon as some stupid fuck told them that he might be at their house, even though he wasnt, the SWAT team drove their  cars over, gassed his house, destroyed everything in it and were "sorry" for the disruption. when they ran in they pushed everyone around, my friend got his arm broke, and his face is all scratched up and nose broke, lips cut up like no other, same thing for the rest of his family. well, now he has no house to stay at and the christmas time is coming up. anyways to get to the point; i know NS is incredibly helpful at these things so im going to try and have a fund raiser for his family. i know NS could help me out alot. So he doesnt know about this and i would rather he didnt until i give him the money or else he might not except it. i hate to do it this way but it will have to go into my moms paypal (i hate to do it because people might thinks its sketchy). anything thing will help and please donate some money! this is my best friend were talking about.

my moms paypal email is alivogt@msn.com

anything helps! even a dollar or two

oh and btw if you think im lying or BSing you guys please say so because ill tell you wrong. also my dad is trying to set up a fund with some company to raise them money too.
Dec 6 2009 10:58PM
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special_k10101
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atticus?
Dec 6 2009 11:19PM
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sagesnow
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YEAH! how do you know him?
Dec 6 2009 11:24PM
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charmander
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shut up.
Dec 6 2009 11:33PM
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special_k10101
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friend's brother's friend (eli)
neighbors with my other friend (kristina)
i've met him a couple times i think.
Dec 6 2009 11:35PM
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sagesnow
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are you able to vouch that this is legit? i mean, have you heard about it yet. if so please say so cause a bunch of people are giving me shit thats its not real. and i cant see to find news on it, probably cause it wasnt that big of a deal to the city, but if this happened to your friend or family wouldnt you guys want to do something about it?
Dec 6 2009 11:38PM
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special_k10101
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i heard from kristina that atticus's house is pretty messed up. they fired tear gas in there, broke a whole bunch of belongings and windows etc. the house is pretty junked.

i can vouch for the legitimacy of the situation, but i can't officially vouch for your fund's legitimacy, although i'm sure you mean well. sorry, i just don't know you, and no offense. maybe send a link to your dad's fund, that might get people more interested/less wary
Dec 7 2009 12:01AM
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sagesnow
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yeah i understand that. but im for real, i promise, i guess thats just not good enough these days though. all who send money ill try and ask him to send a thanks or somethin if its really necessary
Dec 7 2009 12:05AM
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special_k10101
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yeah man, you seem like a legit guy, but people just have trouble with the internet. people get shiested by this kind of stuff sometimes. and i don't doubt that his family is in need right now. it seems like a pretty awful situation to be in.

they've gone through enough emotionally already i'm sure, and having a trashed house brings that to a whole new level.
Dec 7 2009 12:08AM
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Shralpinstein
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Seems like if the cops broke a persons arm that medical bills would have to be reimbursed. I would definitely have a lawyer look at that situation.
Dec 7 2009 3:16AM
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powderhound100
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Is there any news or something on this? Take a bunch of pictures of the wreckage and have him write up a story, I would be really interested in hearing it.

Was it on Jefferson and 15th or something? I go to Seattle University and my roomate who is public safety was talking about how the SWAT team had some house surrounded.
Dec 7 2009 3:23AM
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Gomer_GSX
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Do what any right minded Washington resident would do...

Get Jesse.
Dec 7 2009 4:31AM
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psychkub
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for realsies!
Dec 7 2009 3:16PM
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ScuffDUFF
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That sounds fucked up.  But this is the internet, and im a broke college student.  But even if i had money to give, i dont think i would just put it in some dudes paypal.  If you want to do a fundraiser, make it a legit real fundraiser with proof.  Not saying your a bad guy but for all i know, you could just take the money and get yourself a nice new pair of skis.   +++vibes for your friend though.
Dec 7 2009 3:47PM
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NW_Rider
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From Seattle Times

Now the cleanup begins.

Chrisceda Clemmons is looking for a lawyer to volunteer to help her family through their legal morass.

And the house where she and Shantz have lived for 21 years is trashed from the long police siege. The couple will have to clear a judicial review, they said, before they can receive restitution for the damage that was done.

There is a lot of it: Every window broken, furniture and musical instruments tossed all around. There are tear-gas casings piled by the front door, which has a hole punched in it.

Shantz has been researching how to clean up the tear-gas residue that covers almost everything, and purchased jumpsuits and gas masks for the task.

Stand inside too long and your eyes begin to water.



Full article here:  http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010410055_nicole03m.html



 
Dec 7 2009 6:34PM
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Scott29~
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They deserve restitution, but god damn he is fucking dumb for telling anyone that the killer is his cousin. Obviously whoever started the rumor about the killer being in the house is a jackass, but everyone in this story is a fucking moron.

Hey guys heres a paypal give my friend money for being a retard.
Oh, and when they get the money back from the government you can bet that your donation will be buying him a brand new iPhone! THX GUISE~
Dec 7 2009 6:52PM
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TheDude
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this guys legit i can vouch for him...but ya you might wanna juss wait till the legal stuff gets organized before you start accepting random donations... gluck dude
Dec 7 2009 7:02PM
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thegoat
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this is fucking retarded.
Dec 7 2009 7:07PM
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sdfjklioeur
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Dec 7 2009 8:46PM
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sagesnow
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if you guys calling bullshit read the whole thread  youll see what happened, but seriously, read the WHOLE fucking thread before you leave shit like that. and guess what, there is a real fund for these guys, and on top of that my family is offering them a place to stay for christmas and theyre allowed to stay at our house anytime, i just wanted to help my friend a little more
Dec 7 2009 8:49PM
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Scott29~
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I actually was not calling bullshit.

I have reviewed the thread in its entirety as requested. At some point your friend allowed it to become common knowledge to those around him that his cousin was in fact the cop killer. The cops raiding his house implies that they had not previously known your friend's relation to the cop killer.
Thus we can conclude that your friend told those around him that his cousin was the cop killer. This act is fucking retarded because...

1. It isnt something cool, or to brag about.
2. Its not a fun subject to bring up.
3. It is highly likely that this knowledge will reach outside his circle of friends.

From there the cops will be notified and he will have to deal with them. Unfortunately the information made its way to a spiteful man, and your friend became the victim of a raid.

From these facts I have determined that your friend is in fact a fucking retard.

You make a plea for sympathy on the internet, for a friend none of us know, on an anonymous account.

Without breaking this down, I think it is safe so say that you are a fucking retard. Sympathy on my internets? I think not.

You go on to post a paypal account that belongs to your mother, asking for donations. The account itself is of course completely unconfirmed as is your relation with the victim. There is no guarantee that any money donated to this mysterious paypal account will actually get to the victim. If it does, it may provide temporary relief (probably weed). However, when government restitution kicks in, these donations will just be extra money. Pity money in fact. Nobody gives a shit about your friend. Nobody gives a shit about you.

Please take your fucking retarded story about your fucking retarded friend and leave my internets for good. Actually leave my planet. You arent welcome~
Dec 7 2009 9:18PM
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sagesnow
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dude if you read the thread youd know what the fuck your talking about

he didnt tell anyone he was cousins with the guy. the guy called his house 4 times to ask to stay there, and the kids mom kept telling the guy to stay the hell away. so she called the cops and told them he was in the neighborhood. then the guy called again and said he was coming over, so she told the kids to get the away but the cops were there first and basically beat the whole house to bits.
Dec 7 2009 9:25PM
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Scott29~
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This info was not contained in any part of the thread previous to this post. In fact you said "as soon as some stupid fuck told them that he might be at their house" is confusing considering the mother was the one who called the cops. Anyways, I am willing to concede that there is a chance your friend may not be a fucking retard. My other points still stand. Please leave my internets, you fucking retard~
Dec 7 2009 10:08PM
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ski8990
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Dude, what are you trying to prove? Stop being a dick. Don't donate to him if you don't want to. I am not going to either, but you don't need to go on some elitist tirade. I don't understand how you got so mad at this poor kid who is just trying to help.
Dec 7 2009 10:16PM
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thegoat
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stop failing at life.
Dec 8 2009 1:06AM
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SushiMan
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Scotty is hater, hating every where he goes, hating everywhere he goes... frown.. =(

but yeah, sort out the legal stuff before asking for donations. If the family does get screwed for the raid, then maybe try again?
and if they are cousins, it is not like the cops would not be suspicious in the first place.....
Dec 8 2009 1:51AM
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LivinOuttaBounZ
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I've seen some interviews with that family. If he's even a slight bit normal then he should be pissed that you let people know he's related. That family has came off about as uneducated and worthless as monkey thumbs.

I know, I know. -K  Fuck it.

Dec 8 2009 2:46AM
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iFail
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Wait, because a few police died the law enforcement intentionally messed up somebodies life who MIGHT have had a small part of what happened AFTER the police died, knowing if they just walked in he couldn't have done anything and they wouldn't have fucked up his life?  Nah, police wouldn't do anything like that in retaliation...
Dec 8 2009 11:01PM
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SHampson
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So getting a passing grade in life is hating on somebody who are just trying to help other people?  I can understand disagreeing with what is trying to be done, a paypal just doesn't seem legit, and the kid will probably get his money back from the government sooner or later.  But Scott flat out takes it too far, he calls them out for being "fucking retards" and tells the thread creator to "leave his planet." What the fuck is that doing to help?  He's all out hating on somebody who is just trying to help a family in need out around christmas time.  I can understand how this whole thread made on the internet is a poor idea, but straight up hating on people for having some sympathy is just ridiculous.
Dec 9 2009 6:03PM
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thegoat
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you also could do with a healthy does of stop failing at life.
Dec 9 2009 6:07PM
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SHampson
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*who is*
Dec 9 2009 6:12PM
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Jooky
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Shouldn't the home owner have invited the police over to stake the place out, from the inside? Then no trashing would have been required. By trying to hide from the situation, they were basically aiding and abieting the fugitive. Call the cops, tell them he's been in contact with you and is trying to come over. Pretty sure they wouldn't have trashed the place when you welcome them with an open door.

I don't know all the details though, so this is just my opinion.
Dec 9 2009 6:27PM
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sagesnow
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they did call the cops!
Dec 9 2009 6:51PM
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LivinOuttaBounZ
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His sympathy is misguided. Any one of those cops who were killed would have laid down their lives to save the stupid bastard that killed them that morning.

And it was known that his family was helping him out, so of coarse they brought the stank when they came to the house, do you think they should have rang the doorbell and brought a pie? For Christmas that kid should be thankful that he didn't end up with the same genes his retarded family was unblessed with. A broken arm should be a 3 month reminder not to be an idiot.

The End!

P.S. Stop failing.

Dec 11 2009 1:35AM
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ShreddingthaGnar
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Dec 11 2009 4:38AM
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Mr.Panda
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Geez, this is more of a shitshow clusterfuck than the thread on this in NSG was.


That being said, I looked into it some more and the OP is legit and what he is doing is legit. I can't donate because I am broke and even if I wasn't I still think that the State will pay for all the damages, the drums, truck, and everything else. May take awhile and since it is the holidays yes it would suck if it were me but at the same time there are steps that could have been taken prior to the SWAT search that could have prevented it.

One is that as soon as you find out that the family member killed some cops, call the cops and say you think he may show up sometime. Something like that could have prevented this but hindsight is 20/20 so I am just talking out of my ass now.
Dec 12 2009 3:19AM
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chad.
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you do this in every fucking thread.
Dec 15 2009 2:16PM
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thegoat
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your point? Most are.
Dec 15 2009 3:10PM
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chad.
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then why are you on here? if most threads are pointless.
Dec 15 2009 9:05PM
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Scott29~
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Why are you here? Since you are pointless~
Dec 15 2009 9:14PM
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Mr.Panda
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Holy shit... 29?
Dec 15 2009 10:30PM
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SushiMan
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i cant believe u guys are taking the time to fight over this. wasting ur time, amusing mine haha
Dec 15 2009 11:54PM
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enick
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i'm very dissapointed that i opened this thread
i thought it would be something cool related to skiing
Dec 18 2009 1:48AM
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Scott29~
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Related to skiing? Surely you jest~
Dec 19 2009 3:29AM
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