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johnnypsunami
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I just watched Refresh last night, and one of the things I noticed (aside from how sick the movie was) was how few of their original crew were in the movie.

Its amazing how all these up and coming kids just breaking into the movies, and the older guys simply seem to get pushed aside. I am not complaining about this, because who wouldn't want to see guys like Harlaut, Casabon or Brogan slay, but I can't believe some of the original level 1 crew seems to just fade into the background.

Like what happened to guys like:

- stefan thomas
- steele spence
- travis redd
- dan marion
- craig coker
- liam downey (had like 3 shots)
- matt philippi



Dec 4 2009 10:55AM
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steezyjibber
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and what about Mike Clarke
Dec 4 2009 10:58AM
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hollygrove
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Stefan wasn't present? bummer. he kills it.
Dec 4 2009 11:00AM
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johnnypsunami
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yeah he's gone too, but I think they said he was injured most of last year...
Dec 4 2009 11:00AM
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jksl
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just passing thru, and school.
Dec 4 2009 11:02AM
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steezyjibber
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Dec 4 2009 11:04AM
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triebby
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Stefan had a few shots from AK, but I agree that I wish he had more. His section in LSS was so ill. And pretty sure he still kills it really hard.

Steele now works, I believe exclusively for 4frnt, both as a co-owner and doing a lot of the graphic design work for them.

Travis, well I really don't know what happened to Travis. Seems like he was just gradually fazed out through out the last couple years. I have no idea where he is or what he is doing now.

Marion shot with Meathead's last year, and from what I've heard can still kill it.

Coker kind of faded away, but has been hanging, skiing, and filming a bunch with Tim Russell. I've heard a possible multi-year film project involving the antics and skiing of just Coker and Russell, however I don't know if this is still happening.

Downey definitely is still really under rated and still kills it super hard. My guess is that things just didn't come together that well as far as getting shots for Refresh. Because according to the edits dropped last year, he still has plenty of skills.

Philippi I believe is just focusing more on pipe riding and competeing. He has been in the finals at a lot of top pipe contests the past few years, and on the podium at a few of those as well.
Dec 4 2009 11:13AM
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johnnypsunami
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and there you have it folks.

They should have a park shoot where they just bring all the old timers back, including Dave Crichton and Derek Finn!

Dec 4 2009 11:19AM
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chickenwang
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i would spend any amount of money on a new movie with dave crichton in it
Dec 4 2009 11:22AM
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jeR.
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watch wild stallions marion kills it
Dec 4 2009 11:22AM
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Luc.
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yea i agree man i wish they kept some of the guys on, i thought the same thing when i say the first teaser for refresh, it didnt even seem like a level one video.

but i guess im still stuck in the days of high five, and LSS.
Dec 4 2009 11:47AM
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Rogge
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See Wild Stallions to find out where Dan Marion is. He's the living embodiment of what I believe every skier should be; positive, genuine, and keeps the shred alive!
Dec 4 2009 11:52AM
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ESKmedia
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your taking the words out of my mouth, dave crighton was SUCH a sick skier, a just watched forward yesterday night and it's a big loss not having him again in movies. I think he has some kind of a serious disease but im not sure... anyone knows whats happening to him?

and yea, park shoot with all the back in the days folks would be awesome, there's no way it couldnt be nice.
Dec 4 2009 11:52AM
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skodeo7
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Dave has Chron's...he won't be back skiing competitively/making segments. Although it was super sweet to see him at IF3. It's gotta be tough to even be near the ski scene when your basically being forced to stop doing the thing you love most.

And as far as the rest, sometimes things just don't work out as far as getting shots. I'll leave it at that.
Dec 4 2009 12:00PM
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johnnypsunami
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politics or skills? elaborate, this is interesting
Dec 4 2009 4:15PM
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Dan-Man
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Downey has been in every level1 vid i've ever seen. props to him, a true L1P legend!!

L1P to me represents the freshest stuff in skiing, and to do this they have to evolve and select the newest faces that represent the evolution of the sport.  In my opinion they have done just this. 

I think Travis redd blew his knee 2 seasons ago, and is prolly just moving on to more what he wants to do, not what will get him in a vid. but i have no idea.  i'm sure they are all still heavily shredding and loving skiing!!!

Dec 4 2009 4:39PM
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RedBaron882
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steele is still in the biz, last time i was at the new 4frnt headquarters he was doing a bit-o-office work
Dec 4 2009 4:57PM
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yourthemannowdog
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what about rory bushfield?
Dec 4 2009 5:41PM
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panojibber
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Injured 2 years ago, came back last season, but I never saw a seggy. I've heard he's still killing it though. Don't count him out. He'll be back. He's on team GoPro too, I believe.

Dec 4 2009 6:47PM
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BrownEyeIn
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90% is politics, im assuming.

If your not being paid to put there shots in the movie...

yea.
Dec 4 2009 6:47PM
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DrStrangelove
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that would seem like an insufficient explanation considering turbo was basically the Tanner Rainville/Stefan Thomas show

and considering liam and berman were in Vail last season together competing in a film competition, that kinda proves that downey is still very much in the loop...plus he's on Volkl so they def want to see him in a movie if he's down for it

maybe their seasons went in directions that didnt include a lot of filming or something? i sincerely doubt theyre on the outs with Level 1, maybe they just didnt get as much filming in for whatever reason and were focusing on other stuff in their lives
Dec 4 2009 7:10PM
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freelowda
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Maybe for some, but definitely not in our case. Back the the OP- it's easy to get nostalgic, but you can't make a movie on that alone, things change.
Dec 4 2009 7:10PM
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nellyyy
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what ever happened to Jon Brogan? he never really got into the loop

...jokes
Dec 4 2009 9:01PM
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jasontheredhead
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downey had an edit in the bonus section that was super sick

person i missed this year was mike riddle, he had one shot in the mammoth shoot

Dec 4 2009 9:03PM
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skiseemore
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are you kidding hes a stay at home husband haha best job of them all
Dec 4 2009 9:18PM
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reedwj
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Joking or not... I think Brogan has had the least important video presence of any Super Unknown winner. The kid is always good for a few shots, but I don't put him in the same league as Vanular, Wallisch, Clarke, or JD. And I think Aurdal is gonna be huge. Didn't he have more shots this year than brogan has ever had?
Dec 4 2009 10:11PM
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pales
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I hear skiing park is great for your knees and back
Dec 4 2009 10:13PM
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steezyjibber
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brogan will have more in this year's movie, he was in high school for this past year
Dec 4 2009 10:14PM
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Brian_Peppers
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It's funny what our definition of old is
Dec 4 2009 10:15PM
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reedwj
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It wouldn't surprise me if he did, but my statement stands. PS I meant Eriksson before... my bad.
Dec 4 2009 11:05PM
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DrStrangelove
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i think like the last TWO years actually, but he'll kill it this year, anyone who still thinks he's a shitty superunknown is going to have to eat their words when next year's film comes out...i see him out there pretty much every time i go ski in summit, he's out there seshing constantly and the kid slays hard
Dec 6 2009 7:06PM
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yourthemannowdog
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then he should come on NS
Dec 7 2009 6:20PM
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Nooschoolers
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the 90s called and wanted them back
Dec 7 2009 6:25PM
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Blurst
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what about decker? he was realtime.
Dec 7 2009 6:31PM
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Peter.
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lol? most of these riders are from like 2005
Dec 7 2009 6:36PM
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Delaney
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what about tom wallishk
Dec 7 2009 6:43PM
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Luc.
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sooooooooooo 2007
Dec 7 2009 6:45PM
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gnarmada
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yeah man liam is so sick. real underrated.
Dec 7 2009 6:46PM
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mightyboosh
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I kind of agree with you - its a bit sad, and what's crazy to think is what films will be like in 3/4 years.

With so many kids coming through and killing it, and so many guys who will be considered "old" by then, some of the guys we like watching the most at the moment might not be getting any shots at all! The main film companies can only put so many skiers in their movie and with more skiers getting found out on the internet  a la wallisch, so many people are gonna end up getting left out. . .
Dec 7 2009 8:05PM
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mikemac
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fuck yeah crichtons the illest. i am still awed by his strike three seg
Dec 7 2009 8:21PM
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nickyp
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I've not seen Oscar Sherlin since TBC
Dec 7 2009 8:28PM
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Nooschoolers
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same diff
Dec 16 2009 7:03PM
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VT_scratch
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i wouldnt say downey
Dec 16 2009 7:05PM
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fatherb
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agreed
Dec 16 2009 7:19PM
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crankdatsoljaboy
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i agree with you but you know liam downey had way more than 3 shots and its pretty decent its not everybody who has a complete seg. stefan thomas had shots in the ak segment.
Dec 16 2009 7:24PM
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SickStickz
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i think Clarke got screwed because he crashed his snowmobile and wrecked it and wasnt able to do any filming or something.......
Dec 16 2009 7:24PM
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Rogge
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You know who I want to see more of? Josh Berman. I picked up an old copy of Freeze and saw a shot of him sliding a handrail. Get in front of that camera, Josh!
Dec 16 2009 7:37PM
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skodeo7
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Not to mention Berman slaying at the Winter X-Games ski-board slopestyle.
Dec 16 2009 7:57PM
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faux_real
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Gotta make room for the up-and-comers. It used be the opposite--there were a handful of established pros and they kept getting parts long after they peaked.
Dec 16 2009 7:58PM
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crankdatsoljaboy
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he had 2 ... lolz
Dec 16 2009 8:13PM
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crankdatsoljaboy
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we could believe that but he shot 3handrails  and was at park shoots and still only got 1 shot ...what will it be for a full winter ... 3shots?
Dec 16 2009 8:15PM
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