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New look pivots vs marker jesters

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KravtZ
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title pretty much says it all which binding is gunna be the best this year? im lookin to get some pivots for my new skis but i also heard good things about the jesters.
Nov 29 2009 11:07PM
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BWalmer
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I'm liking my new pivots this year, I think they are very worth the money, they are an excellent binding for sure.
Nov 29 2009 11:15PM
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AlexGaynor
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technically I think the pivots with the swirly heels are better, or maybe i just got sold on their advertising.
I still like my jesters which are mega light, and bomb proof.
I'd say both will do the job easily. arguing about it is pretty much useless.
Nov 29 2009 11:31PM
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shintastic48
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I could be wrong but aren't Marker Bindings all plastic? I would like to know if the pivots are metal or plastic.

-AND instead of making a new thread...

What which pivots, or fks, would work for me. I ski all park and am 175 cm at 131 lbs. I'm planing on getting Moment Reno jibs. Any suggestions? I have no clue what the 140 and 180 and shit means. So if someone could expand on that, that would be awesome.

Nov 30 2009 10:10AM
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rossiskier93
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to address both questions:

pivots are great once you get into them, but that process is rather difficult. i know if you have almost any snow at all in the bindings they are almost impossible to get into, making them bad for powder/off piste skiing.  Great for park and groomers, bad for back country unless you put them up way too high to you never pop out.

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the 140 means the din goes up to 14, whereas the 180 the din goes up to 180.  dont think anyone needs the 180, and for sure for park and you, you will not need to go higher than a 14 din. get the 140

there ya go
Nov 30 2009 10:16AM
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shintastic48
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Thanks
Nov 30 2009 10:18AM
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I_Am_Mod
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140 and 180 indicate the DIN range (14 or 18)

you should pick your din so the din you'll be riding most is somewhere in the middle of the range...

on the other hand if you don't have much money or are skinny, get the 14
if you're a bit fatter/taller/ski harder you could consider the 18....

i'm 180cm, 158 lbs and i'd get the 140 (din 14) but maybe that's my personal style, i ride with really low dins... (around 6)

Nov 30 2009 10:23AM
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peyton
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are the pivots any "safer" than any other binding on the market?

i just figure with all this hype they must be magical in some way..
Nov 30 2009 10:24AM
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shintastic48
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Yeah i have my rossi dins at like 5.5 at the moment. But im gonna have to bump it up since i gained 20 lbs this year.
Nov 30 2009 10:25AM
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chickenwang
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ive never used fks's but i have no complaints on my markers.
Nov 30 2009 10:34AM
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shintastic48
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I've heard good things about markers. And ive heard incredibly bad. I heard best binding on the market, and the biggest piece of shit ever that breaks to easy. so maybe you got lucky or something haha
Nov 30 2009 10:37AM
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dangerdad
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the true advantage of the pivots lies directly in their effective release. Lets just say your chances of knee blow out decrease dramatically
Nov 30 2009 10:44AM
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peyton
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thanks..

i just figure knee safety is worth any amount of money.. i love my knees and wanna make them happy!
Nov 30 2009 10:52AM
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line4u
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The pivots have saved my knees countless times when they where discontinued i bought a couple pairs and am still skiing the old
Nov 30 2009 10:54AM
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dangerdad
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they are also pretty bombproof bindings, so you can sometimes score a pair of older ones for a lot less money and they hold up awesome
Nov 30 2009 11:13AM
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jibjunkie
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or you could just buy cheap bindings and set the dins low. either way your not gonna break your knee.
Nov 30 2009 3:03PM
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Delaney
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jesters
Nov 30 2009 3:42PM
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PaleCelery
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yeah, and pre release all day, great idea
Dec 7 2009 7:45AM
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shintastic48
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DOUBLE EJECT!!!!
Dec 7 2009 8:57AM
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LineSkier66
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I bought a pair of Look P12's back in 04/05 and the brake on one of them cracked and was un-repairable after the first month or so of having them. I brought them back to the shop, they hooked it up for me through Look for a new pair of the P12's for the cost of shipping, had them remounted, beat on them for the next 4 seasons and they are in mint shape still.

I have never had a pair or Markers so I cannot speak on behalf of them.

Dec 7 2009 3:26PM
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hord1080
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I've been debating this question lately for use on my new Line Prophet 100's.  I've had Marker's on my orange 1080's and got Look px12 jib's on my CR Johnson 1080s and have had good luck with both.  I must say that the Looks do make me feel better about my knees even if it is just marketing or whatever.  Although apparantly Line recommends the Marker's to "get the maximum performance"... ???

Anyone know the difference between the Rossi FreeSki2 Ti 140s and Rossi FKS 140s? besides the FKS being more expensive?  I was thinking of going with the freeskis since it appears they have the same release system and are cheaper.

Dec 7 2009 3:56PM
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49566738265
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Having your skis let go in the wrong spot could kill you in some terrain.  Good luck with that strategy.
Dec 7 2009 4:01PM
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saskskier
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So I saw the new FKS 180's this weekend and although they look solid and orange is pretty sweet, there is NO way I'm going to spend $575 on a pair of bindings.  Freaking ridiculous.
Dec 7 2009 4:15PM
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onenerdykid
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Sounds like you have the older Marker binding, maybe?  The new series is infinitely better, I love mine.  But the new and old FKS bindings are awesome too.

Freeski2 140 and FKS 140 use the same toe design, but the new FKS 140 has the redesigned turntable heel.
Dec 7 2009 4:19PM
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john.stossel
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i got look pivot racers, the first pivot. its heel is mre secure its way better
Nov 1 2010 8:03PM
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drumbumocdp
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the griffons have a lot of plastic on them. The jesters are metal making them one of the best bindings marker makes. Both are a high end product, and ive heard good things about both so go ether way
Nov 1 2010 8:11PM
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