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So one of my skis sits flat and has no camber anymore

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borskee
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basically what the title says, my armada ar6's that i bought around this time last year which i believe are still under warranty dont have the normal camber anymore.

im wondering if you guys think this is could be a break in the core and if it is able to be warrantied.
I noticed it when i was skiing at killington this past weekend.
I sent these pictures from where i purchased the skis

Skis sitting flat upside down on a table
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Where the normal ski's tip sits
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Where the possibly broken ski's tip sits
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The difference between the center of the skis
Normal Ski
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Broken ski
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im just afraid of these getting any worse by the time my warranty is up.
What does NS think.
+k for feedback
thanks
Nov 24 2009 6:03PM
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chewy15
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shits fucked
Nov 24 2009 6:10PM
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Big-Bic
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I would definately send that back on warranty. even if it's not going to get any worse i still would just cause they would probably not perform properly.
Nov 24 2009 6:12PM
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borskee
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ya i sent the pics in today to see what i can do and im waiting for a reply
Nov 24 2009 6:14PM
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no_steeze
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some skis lose camber over time but it's weird to see that after only a season of use unless you logged a shit load of days with lots of big landings
Nov 24 2009 6:14PM
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borskee
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well i was occasionally shredding some bumps at killy this weekend, but that just doesnt seem like it would make them do this...and i know for a fact they werent like this when i started skiing
Nov 24 2009 6:17PM
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Dizzyskier
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If your shop denies the request contact Armada directly.  They are a fantastic company to work with...

Looks more like the ski is bent (vs de-cambered) which is easily caused by skiing moguls.
Nov 24 2009 6:23PM
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no_steeze
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what day were you at killy?

i had an epic time on saturday just skiing bumps all day
Nov 24 2009 6:24PM
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MayorWest
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literally the exact same thing happend to my ar6s. wich sucks cuz they have NO pop and pc has jumps open... but yeah i only had mine since march and warrentied them twice already for other reasons but the ones i have no are far to beat to be warrentied... but yeah. they should cover that, unfortuantly its to late for me haha
Nov 24 2009 6:34PM
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pigglywiggly
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i have no clue how you absolutely destroyed multiple pairs of ar6s adam, its crazy haha
Nov 24 2009 6:41PM
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MayorWest
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oh thats not all, other things i destroyed last season. spk boots, line anthems, a pair of demo bindings, a pair of old school line chronicsblack and whit ones, sth 12 binders, crowbar lens, bern baker HELMET, look px 12 toe pice... and i think thats it... there might be more things though
Nov 24 2009 6:48PM
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pigglywiggly
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oh dear lord! andy wasnt kidding when he said you beat the shit out of your gear
Nov 24 2009 6:52PM
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borskee
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i was also there saturday...red long sleve t with red hotdoggers
Nov 24 2009 6:57PM
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no_steeze
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were you wearing a huge tall tee and a helmet with no goggles?
Nov 24 2009 7:34PM
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borskee
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yes i was haha i saw your skis at the end of the day but never saw you
made me say "thats the dude that sold me my fks" haha
Nov 24 2009 9:44PM
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no_steeze
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i was wearing a bright blue jacket, shitake saga pants, g10mx with green crowbars, and i was just lapping rime all day
Nov 24 2009 10:09PM
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ScuffDUFF
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i just noticed this same shit with my walls.  what the fuck.
Dec 3 2009 1:00AM
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MEGAZORD
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This is what happens when armada makes a ski.  They use soft light cores to keep the weight down, but wrap them in a ton of glass to stiffen them up.  They decamber all the time. 
Dec 3 2009 1:02AM
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fouldsys
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skis do loose camber over time but it happens at the same rate on both skis. i would send them in. theres definitely something wrong with them.
Dec 3 2009 1:04AM
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ScuffDUFF
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my walls are loosing camber and ive skied them nor more then 25 times.   anyone know about volkls warentees??
Dec 3 2009 1:07AM
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MEGAZORD
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Good luck. 
Dec 3 2009 1:18AM
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ScuffDUFF
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Oh no.  whats that saposed to mean.  Have you had to deal with their warranty?
Dec 3 2009 1:24AM
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Twig
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I have and it wasn't a good experience. They were super unhelpful until untracked.com got heavily involved.. and even then they struggled. Eventually untracked warrantied my skis and got pretty heavy with volkl afterwards as fas as i know.
Dec 3 2009 7:34AM
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ScuffDUFF
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well i just took them to porters where i  got them and they are sending me the new walls no questions asked.  no reciept or nothing.   Kinda sucks though cuz i liked the graphics better on mine but oh well, im donw for some brand new skis.
Dec 5 2009 5:50PM
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summersover
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hahahaha mine are exactly the same
whatever i dont even care
Dec 5 2009 5:58PM
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RRhighrider
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by the end of last season my T-hall's were rockered in the tips.  I just bought new skis and sold the old ones super cheap.
Dec 5 2009 6:39PM
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pigglywiggly
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im going to be pissed if these happen to mine.
Dec 5 2009 7:19PM
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PC.
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They won't. My AR6's still have alot of pop and camber left in them, after a season of riding, and I weigh almost 200 lbs.
Dec 5 2009 7:22PM
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MayorWest
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my skis have now pop or camber... i weight 175 and only had my skis since march
Dec 5 2009 8:18PM
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pigglywiggly
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didnt you get another pair of 09.10 ar6's? if so, are they holding up any better?
Dec 5 2009 8:32PM
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MayorWest
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na didnt get the hookup yet..
thinkin i might switch up ony em though just cuz i need a stiffer ski
Dec 5 2009 9:25PM
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no_steeze
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borskee you gonna be at killington tomorrow?
Dec 5 2009 11:48PM
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