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Moment Night Trains or ON3P Caylors?

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schillz33
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I want a fat ski that I can ride all mountain, but are good in pow.  I live in New Mexico so not many powder days, but I do a lot of skiing in Colorado so I get at least a handful of awesome powder days every year.  If you can give me pros and cons of each ski that would be awesome.
Nov 17 2009 4:13PM
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Balto
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from what i have read about night trains, they are "crazy light" and im guessing a medium flex. not as much rocker as caylors i think. and depending on what size caylor you would get, it would be better at speeds on steeps and cliffs. id go caylors
Nov 17 2009 4:27PM
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schillz33
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Thanks man.  I just now found the review on NS for the Caylors.  I was gonna go with the 191. It sounds like they are a great ski.  I just don't know anyone who has tried them out.  I'd like to get someone with the moments and with Caylors to give me some sort of review.  I'm definately leaning towards the Caylors at this point
Nov 17 2009 4:52PM
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amo
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I've heard nothin but greatness about the Night Trains. (ive heard) they are an all-mountain slayer, kill it in the pow, hold their own on groomers, and slay in the park. If i'm not mistaken Ced T-F was lapping the park with the NT's for a while, crazy canadians.

I haven't read anything about the Caylors, but from reading threads like this there are quite a few people who say they are super legit.


on a side note how do you pronounce ON3P?

oh-en-three-pee?



Nov 17 2009 7:14PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Pronunciation is spot on.

As far as Caylors go, they are a medium flex near symmetric fatty powder skis, and I absolutely love em. However, unless you really like huge skis, the 120 underfoot is probably going to be a bit big for an everyday all mountain ski. If you arent going to be doing a ton of switch landings, I'd say go for the Wrenagades. Slays powder but is a little more nimble around the mountain and in more variable conditions. They're also just a kick in the pants on groomers, sooooo much fun to rip down corduroy on a huge boards that love going straight.

Nov 17 2009 8:09PM
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fouldsys
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i always thought it was on-three-pee
Nov 17 2009 8:22PM
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Milkshakes
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Anybody actually been on the night trains?   I'm looking for a dedicated, medium flex powder ski that is going to be real good in the trees?  Also, would like to know about the on3p billy goat, if anyone has some first hand knowledge.  I'm 6-1 215....  tia
Nov 18 2009 1:18AM
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amo
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Sounds like your looking for the Moment Bibby Pro. there are tons of reviews in the reviews section, check em out.
Nov 18 2009 7:13AM
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Milkshakes
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I had thought of that, then I posed the question to some of the guys at moment, and due to my size, they recommended the night train.  They thought I might weigh a little to much for the 186 bibby, and the 191 was more of a big mountain style ski, and I'm looking for a bc jib ski.  They thought the fles on the NT would better fit me.  I was just wondering if anybody has first hand knowledge of it, because it would seem to be a great ski.  Thanks to all responses!

Nov 18 2009 10:21AM
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schillz33
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Thanks man
And I believe that is how you say it
Nov 19 2009 12:23AM
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pandaman
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definitely get the night trains. i just got mine and took em out for the first time. beyond my expectations... mostly just soft snow, nothin real deep which i cant wait for. they carved way better than i expected and are supre light and feel really agile. plus they got a killer topsheet. pick up these badboys.
Dec 15 2009 10:14PM
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schillz33
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Oh I know i love the Topsheets! I'm still thinking though.  I have to work some over winter before i can afford anything anyways.  Is there anywhere that I can still find the 191's?  I have not seen any on backcountry.com or getboards and even a few more sites.

Oh and sorry for messin this thread up even more, but I tried some chopsticks this weekend and LOVED them.  I landed forward off a 15 footer in knee deep pow and still didn't dive the tips.  So if anyone can add those in a comparison that would be awesome
Dec 21 2009 5:22PM
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PappaG
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Not sure if the 191 you wrote is a typo, but the Night Train only comes in 171, 181, and 186.

If it's the 181 you are looking for, then go here:
http://backcountryfreeskier.com/moment-night-train-freeride-ski.html




Dec 21 2009 6:53PM
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