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PIPE CLEANER vs WALL (which to buy?)

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oskier
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Hey, I am thinking to buy finally the pipe cleaner or the wall... I am 177cm and 74 kg (163lb), expert skier but really new in the park.. ( I am learning to do 360 at the moment with 50% success). I 'll use the park ski only for  the non-powder days.. for carving around the resort and learning how to freestyle in the park..
so what is your suggestion?
thx
Nov 15 2009 1:56PM
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DBAKE
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my suggestion would be the pipe cleaner, they are really great at carving around jumps, groomers, and very easy to handle off jumps, perfect flex, and really light.
Nov 15 2009 2:10PM
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oskier
Posts: 22 - Karma: 10
Aren't they pipe cleaners to stiff? They had the hardest flex from all the other freestyle skis ( I flexed them with my hands at the ski shop)..

And does anyone know if the symmetrical sidecut of the walls isn't good for carving?
Nov 15 2009 6:12PM
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D.Hatch
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pipe cleaners are sick but i would go with the t-halls from armada. they are more park skis vs the pipeclenaer has the race base which might get trashed on rails
Nov 15 2009 9:10PM
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ScuffDUFF
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ive got walls.   they are great for carving forwards and backwards.   i carve shit like a mafucken G
Nov 15 2009 9:17PM
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pigglywiggly
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id say ar6s if he wants something inbetween. and go pipecleaners if you still are only looking at the pipe cleaners and walls. i was just at my shop today and flexed every ski they had, the pipe cleaner is definatly a medium to barley stiff flex (its only stiff in the tails) where as the walls are super stiff like the chronics, dumonts, suspects, extremes etc.
Nov 15 2009 9:25PM
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oskier
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The ar6 seems to soft..

But the walls are for sure softer than the pipe cleaners, I 've flexed them in shops a thousand times..
Nov 16 2009 10:37AM
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BWalmer
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The pipe cleaners are a bit stiffer, but they break in more, where as the Walls will pretty much stay where they are (they'll get slighty softer).

They did make the Walls a bit softer this year too.

The walls will be more durable and have a more balanced feel on rails (because they're symmetrical), while the PC is gonna be lighter, faster, and carve better into jumps. Both do very well on groomers too.

I'd say, if you're gonna do more jumps that rails go with the Pipe Cleaner, if you're gonna do more rails than jumps go with the Wall - easiest way to put it.

Nov 16 2009 11:07AM
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oskier
Posts: 22 - Karma: 10
the thing is also that i can buy the wall 250 euro cheaper than the pipe cleaner..

The wall wont be a bit worse for carving with the symmetrical sidecut?
Nov 16 2009 5:18PM
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oskier
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I 'll change a bit the subject but has anyone skied the salomon dumont?
Nov 17 2009 12:18PM
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