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Buttering? strong enough??

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bkimsta
Posts: 53 - Karma: 10
gonna start and learn to butter, i have atomic deviants with ross sas2 120 bindings, i think my DIN setting is 6, and im 130 lbs, 5'5..
and also how difficult is it to butter? especially nose buttering
Nov 9 2009 6:17PM
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-PowAir-
Posts: 646 - Karma: 30
if you like the way your face looks now, learn with very short or no poles. For some reason  it easy to put a pole to the face learning. They arnt too hard you'll get it pretty quick. You could turn it up a lil if your popping out.
Nov 9 2009 6:22PM
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jamodeo
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yeah they arnt hard at all but if you do it off the knuckle of a jump spinning make sure you no where you are because you could end up on your back
Nov 9 2009 6:30PM
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Peter.
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you just gotta go try it. you'll find a way that works for you.
Nov 9 2009 6:31PM
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jamodeo
Posts: 3040 - Karma: 663
oh and you might wanna put your din up just a little falling out of your bindings is not a good experience.
Nov 9 2009 6:34PM
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Jibberino
Posts: 2089 - Karma: 1,346
Yep, your skis and bindings should be fine!

Nose buttering isn't that hard, it's basically about committing to it. Lean forward, put your weight on your nose, and use your shoulders to rotate (like a normal rotation), then you just add rotations, 180, 360, 540, and so on. Have fun!
Nov 9 2009 6:37PM
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TOK
Posts: 2928 - Karma: 2,540
I'm trying to learn buttering as well.

When i got my skis mounted the guy set the din at like 5.5 and i keep popping out. What should i set my dins to if i'm 5'9" 120 pounds?
Nov 9 2009 6:39PM
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zahava
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By the way never change your own DIN's. Take them to a shop were they know what their doing.
Nov 9 2009 6:51PM
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Funnel
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Holy fuck, you must have no meat on your bones. That's disgustingly light, sorry man, but that's way below where you should be at that height.

Butters are pretty easy, just commit, and it's basically everything it looks like.
Nov 9 2009 6:55PM
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pigglywiggly
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im in the same predicament. im 110 pounds and 5 foot 5, and i turned my din up to 6. i got some ar6s so hopefully they wont be too hard, but whatever, ill get used to them
Nov 9 2009 6:59PM
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TOK
Posts: 2928 - Karma: 2,540
Yeah I have a very fast metabolism.
Nov 9 2009 7:03PM
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brennanmidwest
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how much easier is it with softer skis?
Nov 9 2009 7:04PM
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Logey.
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hahahahahaha all you do is turn a little screw? i dunno if you havent figured that out yet
Nov 9 2009 7:05PM
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Dick_Buttkiss
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I think if you took your skis into a shop and asked them to change your dins they would throw a screwdriver at you and tell you to do it yourself. 
Nov 9 2009 7:18PM
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zacharyn
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This.

Nov 9 2009 7:22PM
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.SimonB.
Posts: 1959 - Karma: 713
they are gonna charge you $20 to turn a screw about a 1/4 of a turn. Biggest ripoff ever. Just turn the screw till the desired number.
Nov 9 2009 7:34PM
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SirFryanator
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seriously. if you can't figure out what DIN is good for you after the first time the shop mounts your skis, you really need to start getting to know your own equipment.
Nov 9 2009 7:44PM
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Squid.
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Guys its cuz the shop has special machines to test that the bindings release correctly.

For example, I should have my DIN at 8, but for some reason, the release at 6 din was equivalent to a normal release of 8. So they had to crank my Din down and I might not have known otherwise.
Nov 9 2009 7:57PM
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panojibber
Posts: 3382 - Karma: 216
Just lean. If its not working, lean more.

Welcome to the world of butters.
Nov 9 2009 8:00PM
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anti_bunk
Posts: 2629 - Karma: 329
shops cant set your din as high as you want it because its a liability.  if you fall and dont release and end up tearing an acl or breaking a leg it could be the shops fault.  thats why they make you sign that big waiver. i had to turn mine up, i got some lizzies and the first thing i did was try a nosestand and double ejected to face. 
Nov 9 2009 8:06PM
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BULLSEMEN
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or you could just put your din up untill they stop falling off when you dont want them to.
Nov 9 2009 8:08PM
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superpoluha
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lol yea its not a good feeling
Nov 9 2009 8:11PM
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kickel
Posts: 242 - Karma: 10
[-------------------------------------------------------] about this much easier. it does help though. i also noticed now that my old ar6's have started to rocker its becoming easier. that or once you get the feel for it it starts getting easier.
Nov 9 2009 8:14PM
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3R1C
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this
Nov 9 2009 8:36PM
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Parrish
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I'm 6 ft and weigh 125.
Nov 9 2009 8:37PM
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SirFryanator
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wow. I was 5'7" 125 for a couple years up until about a month or two ago. I put on 10-15 lbs in the past few weeks. I was put on weight watch by my school because they thought I was too light. Whatever it is you do all day, stop doing it and eat some foooood mayne!
Nov 9 2009 8:40PM
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CKpolicy
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you dont know how to properly adjust your bindings?
Nov 9 2009 8:42PM
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Parrish
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The weird thing is that I do eat a lot I just don't gain a lot of weight. It will all catch up to me though, I'll probably die of a heart attack or obesity when I'm in my late 30s.
Nov 9 2009 8:49PM
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Zoro
Posts: 1253 - Karma: 37
lean as far forward as you can until you pop out of your bindings then crank up the DIN on the heel.  i usually only release from my heel when i do park.
Nov 9 2009 8:54PM
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SirFryanator
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I ripped out my heelpiece this summer overshooting a jump and landing switch. Now I have two pairs of skis with no bindings, and my mountain opens wednesday. I would not recommend turning them up too much higher on the heel than the toes. Then again, I'm definitely not a technician.
Nov 9 2009 8:57PM
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.peter
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Dude you have to be able to like leg press 550 and bench 1000 to do those!!!




They're actually not that hard just commit.
Nov 9 2009 8:57PM
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-dva-
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although i'm also not a tech, i totally agree because the same thing happened to me a couple years ago. your heel pieces shouldn't need to be cranked all the way up to do butters either. if thats the case you're probably forcing it too hard. just practice over rollers or the knuckles of jumps until you get the feel of it. makes things a lot easier.

side note...woooo crystal (i'm assuming)! i haven't been able to sit still since they announced opening on wednesday
Nov 9 2009 9:04PM
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SirFryanator
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fuck yeahhhhh
Nov 9 2009 9:46PM
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dylansiggers
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this
Nov 9 2009 9:48PM
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mynilla
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dumbass
Nov 9 2009 9:52PM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
Posts: 3123 - Karma: 230
aha yeah, that way they can set his bindings to 4, charge him some money, Then when he tries to learn how to butter he falls on his face. Good idea.

Just run your bindings at whatever works for you for normal park riding(you shouldnt need to run higher dins to butter, unless your bindings were set wrong in the first place.)
Nov 9 2009 10:06PM
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Armanzoid
Posts: 2453 - Karma: 26
I love buttering on rockered skis, takes no work and is fun as hell.
Nov 9 2009 10:12PM
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Brentizzle
Posts: 1584 - Karma: 1,871
i learned butters off of cat tracks. probly the easiest way cuz its not a jump so there is no gap and  its a flat take off so you wont catch your edge. even hoping a 180 then pressing on your nose then 180ing out is a good way to start to learn them then eventually you will just be able to carv into them
Nov 9 2009 10:25PM
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debrickshaw
Posts: 1957 - Karma: 68
are you on crack?
Nov 9 2009 10:41PM
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ski-swagga
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ha dude im 5 9 133. i wouldnt call my self overly skinny just lanky.
Nov 9 2009 10:49PM
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_CC_
Posts: 3890 - Karma: 747
what? i weigh 14 lbs less than this kid and i ride a din 10. they always come out when i need them to and i have no problems. did it all by myself! magical!
Nov 9 2009 10:50PM
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I_liketobutter
Posts: 2664 - Karma: 997
this is a good tip, cat tracks are definately the best place to learn, its harder to catch a tip compared to a knuckle of a jump or a roller. make sure to keep looking at where you're going to land.

and most importantly DE-TUNE the shit out of your tips and tails. i do a couple inches down from the contact point of the ski. use a file, then a stone of some kind. this will really help your noses not catch. you dont want your noses to catch as you fly over a knuckle of a jump....
Nov 9 2009 11:01PM
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Willard
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no you can change them if you stay around the 6-8 area
Nov 9 2009 11:06PM
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-PowAir-
Posts: 646 - Karma: 30
You think Seth Morrison rides with a din of 6 from the ski shop?
Nov 10 2009 1:47AM
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GORlLLA
Posts: 1950 - Karma: 45
This is why you're labled as Lame...not cuz ur new, cuz u suck
Nov 10 2009 1:56AM
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Mr.Capone
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i haven't ridden with a DIN of 6 since I was 11 years old... step your game up homie
Nov 10 2009 5:25AM
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Atypical
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one thing I did was do standing tip stands (go up on your poles) just to see if my bindings were set correctly.

If you're doing butters and stuff you could run em about 8.

Nov 10 2009 6:40AM
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Fischer-Addicted
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if hes only 130 pounds it's going to take a hell of alot of force to get out of that binding if the din is 6. i ski at 7 for park and im 6 ft 4 and 180 lbs.
Nov 10 2009 7:06AM
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Fischer-Addicted
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hahahaha yeah seth prob mounts his own

Nov 10 2009 7:09AM
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jstaiz
Posts: 108 - Karma: 18
this has been quoted so many times....so I'll quote it again

If your skis are fallin off too easily crank the DIN up a bit....make sure you don't go overboard though, just keep turning them up and trying it out. Your ski falling off and you landing on your face is a lot better then your ski staying on when you don't want it to and blowing out your knee
Nov 14 2009 10:39PM
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joly.sp
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word, 6 actually seems like alot for being only 130.

OP, dont take any of these "ideas" for adjusting your din, get your dad to stand on the back of your ski in your basement and then take a hard step forward with one foot (not in boots) and try to get out of your other ski. If its too easy put the din up 1 and repeat until it is properly set. Do not crank it and ride it or you can fuck up your knees.

Nov 14 2009 10:44PM
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