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Who would you consider to be the most IMPORTANT person in history?

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anxju
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new thread, last one was a fail

person must be identifiable, for example, no saying "the guy that invented the wheel!"

interesting discussion in Latin today, i would rank em

Jesus
Alexander the Great
Caesar
George Washington
Buddha
Ovid


other names that came up were gandhi, hitler, FDR, etc etc
Nov 3 2009 6:03PM
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B.bowzz
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whoever invented skiing and snow.
Nov 3 2009 9:11PM
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Totes_Magotes
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without Genghis Kahn, our world would be buttfuck different
Nov 3 2009 9:12PM
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Che~
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Ghandi
Nov 3 2009 9:30PM
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BC.
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Scientificially: Einstein or Newton

Religiously: Luther, Jesus, Mohammed
Nov 3 2009 9:43PM
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Smuffy
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if its the most important person in history, then yes it does matter.whether or not he is a historical figure is quite important. however, his influence is among the largest in the world considering christianity has over a billion followers
Nov 3 2009 9:43PM
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jmBEERY
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and because without him we would all be killed by MAN-BEAR-PIG!!
Nov 3 2009 9:43PM
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thegoat
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lucy
Nov 3 2009 9:50PM
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Delphi
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It's hard to talk American history, because you have so many incredibly important figures in the founding of the country. I would argue Thomas Jefferson or John Adams over Washington, but that's a tough call. Going before those guys, maybe even John Winthrop, the first governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. He was extremely influential in forming the foundations the founding fathers wrote into law.

Caesar, eh, I don't know. The guy was an egomaniac and brought about the downfall of the Roman Republic.
Nov 3 2009 10:07PM
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anxju
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lol i thought of this

and Delphi, ^

caesar may have brought down the small republic, but he started the empire, which with the caesers who proceeded change the shape of the world
Nov 3 2009 10:32PM
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Delphi
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how about this for important figures. The First Triumvirate: Pompey, Caesar, and Crassus,
and the Second Triumvirate: Octavian, Lepidus, and Marc Antony.

these two groups did so much to influence massive changes in Roman and global history.

Ghengis Khan is a good one too, or at least the mongols as a group. Largest land empire in the history of the world.
Nov 3 2009 10:36PM
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doublexl
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so we should blame him?
Nov 3 2009 10:39PM
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Logey.
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crocidial hunter and billy mayes with out them i woulnt have started watching tv!................ NOT but i enjoyed it when they came on
Nov 3 2009 10:39PM
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Delphi
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you may also want to consider John Locke and Thomas Hobbes.
Nov 3 2009 10:43PM
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graciousstallion
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T-pain
Nov 3 2009 10:44PM
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yourthemannowdog
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I disagree, he might have changed the ways of western thinking and western europe. His ideas never were big in the rest of the world. As much as i hate to say i think Jesus is the biggest influence on Global History. He has his own religion based off of his life, and it is one of the biggest in the world.
Nov 3 2009 10:46PM
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Delphi
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you can also thank Alexander (Well, Phillip of Macedon) for totally revolutionizing the nature of military conflict. The Macedonians took the Greek Hoplite style of warfare and transformed it into the Phalanx! badass.

to the gutenburg kid, the Chinese developed moveable print about 400 years before gutenburg and his partner did. I supposed Gutenburg was more important though because he facilitated the mass production of the bible.
Nov 3 2009 10:48PM
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alaskakid
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win.

but I must say, probably Jesus Christ or Muhammad, because what they created/initated influenced nearly everything for the next 2000 years, and will continue to do so. Also because half the people mentioned here have only been famous in spite of what Jesus or Muhammad created.
Nov 3 2009 11:21PM
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charmander
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lao tzu
buddha
gandhi
edison
sir isaac newton
Nov 3 2009 11:31PM
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gmack24
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Barack Obama

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Nov 3 2009 11:43PM
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charmander
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sarcasm?
Nov 3 2009 11:44PM
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Delphi
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I really don't see why Buddha is on this list. I'd put Muhammed over buddha.
Nov 3 2009 11:51PM
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theblackrod
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Newton most definitely, we wouldn't have the understandings of our physical world without his discoveries. 
Nov 3 2009 11:56PM
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skier_boy26
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jesus
-constantine
-justinian (cause im biased as fuck)

newton

my boy apollo
coca cola


Nov 3 2009 11:56PM
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Delphi
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why are you biased? Are you from the former Eastern Roman Empire? Shouldn't you be saying Charlemagne or Charles Martel?
Nov 3 2009 11:58PM
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skier_boy26
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Nov 4 2009 12:01AM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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ill agree with justinian, he made christianity the only legal religion to practice in the byzantine empire, which i guess is pretty monumental considering 400 some years before that the romans where crucifying christians..
Nov 4 2009 12:02AM
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AlexGaynor
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I think a lot of it has to do with definition of important
if you define it as "made important discoveries" well those discoveries (science) are all bound to take place eventually, but we can argue for days about which scientist made the most important of the discoveries.

if you define it as "effected the most people" then which ever religion effects the most people.
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jesus is the winner

then there is "who conquered the most". which would be hitler, Caesar, Alex the great (Aristotle's student for who ever was trying to make that list) those guys.

I guess it should be defined as "made the greatest lasting impact on human society" which is why this is such a good debate.

I think that these people only made the list because of american education. Columbus, luther king, washington. I mean they were all great people and what not, but in terms of the rest of the world they meant nothing.


so yeah, i think the answer should be subdivided, into categories, then the answer is a debate between which category is most "important"
Nov 4 2009 12:04AM
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Delphi
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true, the Byzantines created some sickkkkkkkkk pieces of architecture. The hagia sophia is beatiful, but are you studying architecture or something? I don't understand the bias reference.
Nov 4 2009 12:04AM
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zagfan5
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chuck norris.
Nov 4 2009 12:04AM
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no_steeze
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whoever invented dunkaroos
Nov 4 2009 12:07AM
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skier_boy26
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You nailed it on the head. Granted, I have thought Hagia Sophia was sick since I was a wee one, but I was shitting myself when I actually got to lay my eyes on it in person.
Nov 4 2009 12:08AM
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Delphi
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fuck nevermind, saw your 2 other guys and realized the whole christianity thing. Why not put Paul the Apostle on there? He is the reason why Christianity was able to continue after Jesus's death.


Also, your conquerors are wrong. The Mongols had the largest continuous land empire in history.
Nov 4 2009 12:09AM
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liftedresearcher
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since theres really no proof that any of these people that did their world changing shit before 1900 actually existed, the most important person is martin luther king. if it wasnt for him, there would be no rap music or good basketball players.
Nov 4 2009 12:20AM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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ahh the hagia sophia is soo spectaular, I covering the byzantine period in my ap art history class right now...apparently when when your inside the dome looks as if its floating because of the windows that surrond the bottom of it..
Nov 4 2009 12:28AM
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Mac.
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Newton for explaining the world we live in

Alexander for destroying everyone, and conquering the world, showed the power of one/man/empire/army.
Nov 4 2009 12:40AM
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Mooose...
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Nov 4 2009 12:44AM
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PeterWojnar
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I'll throw this out there: Tammy Wallnuts!


US history: Eli Whitney, inventor of the cotton gin. His invention brought back the failing institution of slavery back into business, made it super duper important, and pretty much started the Civil War.

The History of the Whole Wide World: Aristotle. His views on virtually everything were accepted for hundreds of years. His explanation of dreams? Valid until Freud in the 1800's (for the record, he's generally viewed as being wrong too these days). His ideas about the structure and relationship of body and mind? Valid until the 17somethings or so, yet again. Not until Rene Descartes (another SUPER important figure, he had ideas about almost everything, and many of them were correct to some degree) did people really start to question him.
Nov 4 2009 12:55AM
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SteezyOhio
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epic
im saying morgan freeman, he's fucking- god.
Nov 4 2009 12:57AM
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Delphi
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no. Eli Whitney is a marginal figure in US history. Don't attribute something as complicated as the American Civil War to any one person. I have never in my life seen Eli Whitney even mentioned in the discourse on the civil war. That shit was DECADES before the first rumblings of the War.
Nov 4 2009 1:09AM
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Arabian.
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Abraham, if he truly did exist, influenced more in modern religion than anyone else, including everything that came after him.
Nov 4 2009 1:12AM
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lineskier10
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moses
Nov 4 2009 1:15AM
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double_D
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2nd that
Nov 4 2009 1:17AM
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Nicholas.
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hahahahahhaha

jesus is bullshit. fuck hitler too.

charles darwin, caesar, wayne brady.
Nov 4 2009 1:56AM
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Mr.Panda
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He tried to kill his son though cause some random voice in his head told him to. They throw people in the padded room for that nowadays.
Nov 4 2009 1:57AM
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Arabian.
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He's the start of the Abrahamic religions though. Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and Catholicism and everything in between.
Nov 4 2009 1:59AM
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Mr.Panda
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I know this... he still tried to kill his son cause a voice told him too. I try to kill someone cause "the dark disembodied voice told me too" even OJ Simpson's defence team couldn't keep me out of some sort of a cell.
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Mr.Panda
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defense*
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