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What's Next For Powder Skis?

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bootleg_BEN
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I was thinking about how much innovation has gone into powder ski design, so what is next for powder skis?


Are they going to keep getting fatter?

What kind of different designs are going to be introduced such as RC and RS?


Your thoughts on how they will change in the next couple of years?


Also hope this isnt a repost.
Oct 27 2009 3:45PM
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switchieski
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jets yo
Oct 27 2009 3:47PM
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theblacktaco
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there gonna look like boat hulls soon
Oct 27 2009 5:37PM
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Balto
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fischer already has this
Oct 27 2009 5:41PM
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jibjunkie
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every company is just gonna start making hellbents
Oct 27 2009 6:08PM
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Dr.Rick_Marshall
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this
Oct 27 2009 6:10PM
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Newschool_Pope
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im liking the 3 stage rocker of surface. also elf shoe tech and reverse sidecut are awesome.
early taper is nice too. those are the most important developments imo.
oh and also new materials like bamboo core to make skis lighter is nice.
Oct 27 2009 6:45PM
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sam.gillin
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The elf shoe tech is where its at. Also, a while back ep made some prototypes that were like 160 underfoot and didnt work too well, so i think the waist is almost maxed out.
Oct 27 2009 6:48PM
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Peach.
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EP pros. Thats It There is no more progression needed.
Oct 27 2009 7:01PM
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MANDER
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you cant limit progression
Oct 27 2009 7:04PM
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Slinger1x1
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cheaper skis
lighter skis
stronger skis
integrated bindings
those lib tech magtronic (or what ever) edges
some other stuff? no big new break throughs though
Oct 27 2009 7:08PM
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bootleg_BEN
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what about a 7 point dimension ski? mix a jj with an arg

Like 115-135-120-145-120-110? Like reverse sidecut and early taper craziness, with tip/tail rocker.

I wonder if that is even skiable?
Oct 27 2009 7:12PM
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bootleg_BEN
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ahh messed that up^

115-135-120-145-120-135-110
Oct 27 2009 7:13PM
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Love_Wins.
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Snowboards had this in the 80s?
Oct 27 2009 7:18PM
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Slinger1x1
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basically the skis are wavy? absolutely not
Oct 27 2009 7:26PM
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jibjunkie
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i dont really understand how elf shoe is different than any other companys rocker. it has camber underfoot and rocker up front and behind. hows it different
Oct 27 2009 8:05PM
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Ben.
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better job with camber underfoot and rocker at tip and tail, and elf shoe technology to make skis more versatile. im thinking great floating skis that dont suck elsewhere will become more prevalent.
Oct 27 2009 8:36PM
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bootleg_BEN
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Im kinda hoping that powder skis dont go this way, well at least all of them.

I would rather have a straight up powder ski to rule the pow. And other skis for park and all mountain.



Do you guys think there will be anymore break through technology, like reverse camber and sidecut?
Oct 27 2009 8:41PM
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rocktheLPs
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soon well just be on water skis. ha, imagine that.

or a chair on the tails so youc an sit down
Oct 27 2009 8:48PM
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Love_Wins.
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Been done. Saucer Boy...R.I.P.
Oct 27 2009 11:19PM
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chazz.
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you mean convex bases, i thought of that the other day too. it'd take powder riding to a whole new level.
Oct 27 2009 11:22PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Fins on the bottom of pow skis, I think it's been done before though,
Oct 27 2009 11:49PM
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Dr.Dickless
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about the integrated bindings my friend had an idea with magnets where you would just put your foot over the ski and it would stay on and I was like thats retarded but he made a good model and stuff so thats probably next.

and its magne-traction

Oct 28 2009 2:10AM
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ThunderousFilms
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didnt read thread but watch the movie "ski patrol" and look at one of shane mckonkeys old photos of him with water skis and snow ski bindings on em.
Oct 28 2009 2:19AM
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powfoka
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Refining flex and rocker, making skis lighter, general construction, and sidecuts...
Oct 28 2009 3:01AM
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Dr.Rick_Marshall
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that snowboard company i think is called battalion makes a board like that... it has three planes o the base kind of like a boat hull with a flat bottom.
Oct 28 2009 3:08AM
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Shredaholic
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http://kingswoodskis.com/home/skis-megafat

151mm waist and available in 199cm!

I havent personally skied it but you do see them around the canterbury club fields ...

They charge ridiculously hard!
Oct 28 2009 3:50AM
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Newschool_Pope
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i think libtech had/has some skis like that. but dont quote me on which. thats just what i think i  saw in a video once. but obviously not as extreme as stated ^^
Oct 28 2009 5:38AM
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Lemuel
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that's magnetraction, it's only the edges not the shape of the ski.
Oct 28 2009 8:55AM
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Newschool_Pope
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haha ok my bad. i wasnt really sure on that info.
Oct 28 2009 9:09AM
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bootleg_BEN
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Bump, i want to see some cool ideas.
Nov 3 2009 10:33PM
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joelle+cowbell
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technology to make ski bindings more like snowboard bindings. so you can swap them around easily.


Nov 3 2009 11:22PM
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joelle+cowbell
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oh noooooooo! i just looked at the thread title.

while i am here what is elf shoe technology?
Nov 3 2009 11:24PM
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Love_Wins.
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Definitely not pow skis specific, but...yes.
It's been tried.
The problem is just the fact of trying to standardize a mount pattern for ski bindings...it's all but impossible.
That's why snowboards can do it, they have a (somewhat) standardized binding pattern.
Nov 3 2009 11:25PM
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smuggs
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everyone finally getting a pair of motherships.
Nov 3 2009 11:26PM
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shortdawg
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It's basically a powder ski with 5 dimensions. Armada isn't the only one to do it, but they have a good explanation on their site.

And if K2 made my hellbents lighter that'd be all the innovation I need
Nov 3 2009 11:28PM
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bootleg_BEN
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This light hellbents would be tight!
Nov 3 2009 11:33PM
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Love_Wins.
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It's made by ON3P...called the Caylor.
I love mine.
Check them out.
Nov 3 2009 11:57PM
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Dr.Dickless
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V-tec, YO!
Jan 22 2010 1:22AM
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jasontheredhead
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adjustable camber or rocker would be sick, not sure how though
Jan 22 2010 1:24AM
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FUUUCK
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convex tips and tails
Jan 22 2010 1:26AM
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bootleg_BEN
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Care to explain?
Jan 22 2010 2:21AM
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Ghini
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This.. and maybe concave underfoot?
Jan 22 2010 6:52AM
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Peter.
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that would suck on rails, how would you lock for pretzels
Jan 22 2010 10:43AM
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Jules.
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Shane had a dream to make powder skiing easier then on 66 underfoot skis. And thats what he did. (Pontoons) I have them, and they are awesome. I think skis will start going towards the tapered tails like the Toons. I dont know where there going to go with sizes in dimensions, but right now ski companies are just filling in the holes of there powder skis to make them suit the type of skiier and snow, its kinda like a big test.

Long live the fatties.

Jan 22 2010 11:10AM
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chazz.
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you wouldnt, this thread is about powder skis, not park skis...
Jan 22 2010 11:57AM
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no_steeze
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dear god i hope skiing never comes to that
Jan 22 2010 12:10PM
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Love_Wins.
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Hahaha.
One company making them is bad enough.
Jan 22 2010 12:16PM
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bootleg_BEN
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i skied mine today in a foot+ of pow, and they are amazing. so much fun is fresh snow.
Jan 22 2010 5:59PM
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