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Mounting Line Blend

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TastyCorn
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So I used the searchbar and I found a few threads on this already, I have a bit of an idea of what I want but I also left reading them with more questions...

In all the threads people keep referring to the "recommended" line. I am assuming this is the midsole line that is marked on the top sheet as there are no stamps on the sidewall of the ski. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Im 6'1" 175-180 pounds. I ski about 80% all mountain, pow, groomers, etc. and 20% park, I live on the west coast so those numbers depend a lot on the day and how much snow there is so those number can change a lot.

The skis are 178 cm, so the true center is 89 cm. If my measurements are right the midsole line (recommended line?) marked on the top sheet is -8cm from true center.

Is the midsole line the skinniest point in waist measurement, but the thickest part of the ski? Is the term midsole in my case used interchangably with recommended? And where do you think I should mount?

Thanks, +k for help.


Oct 27 2009 1:29AM
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MarkieR
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midsole is the center of the shape of the ski, so yes, it is the narrowest part, which is 8cm behind true center. i have my blends mounted 2cm behind true center and i love them. however, i use mine primarily for park and mine are 183's. keep in mind that the further you move the mounting point from midsole the more you will compromise the skis ability to ski how it was designed. i moved mine up because i like a lot of tail on a park ski. if i didn't ski so much park, i would have mounted them much closer to the midsole line. i can't say exactly where you should mount yours because it's completely personal preference, but i would recommend that you mount yours closer to the midsole line.
Oct 27 2009 1:52PM
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grown-ninja
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just mounted my 183 blends at -3 from true center going to use them as my east coast tree/powder ski and they came out perfectly, just how i wanted them
Oct 27 2009 2:09PM
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TastyCorn
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Both good replies, especially this one. +k.

Is the midsole also the thickest part of the ski like when looking at it from the side? (sorry I have no clue what the terminology is here). I'm assuming it is, just curious though.

So I was thinking +3, or +2 from the midsole? (or -5, -6) from true center. I still want to spin and do rails, I just think having enough tail and control is priority.

Feedback and more personal experiences appreciated! +k
Oct 27 2009 3:17PM
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grown-ninja
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the thinkest part of the ski is called core center, the mid sole  is the little mark on your boot, there will be a small arrow, this is what they line up with the -3 -4 -5... pretty much the line they draw at the measurment you wanted it, give me a day or two and ill throw up a pictures of my blends mounted at -3 if you still wana do jumps and rails i wouldnt recomend -6 or even -5 maybe -4 or 4.5 if you wana go back that far
Oct 27 2009 4:31PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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i was in the same dilemma as you last season and i ended up mounting at recommended after trying out the +2 mount. either way you go you'll be happy, i guess it just depends on how much park you're really gonna do.

check out my old thread, you might find some useful info in there (for 09 blends): https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/449780/

Oct 27 2009 4:45PM
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TastyCorn
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Yeah but there is also the midsole of the ski correct? You say you wouldn't recommend going back to -6 from true center (or +2 from midsole) but is that from what you ski, or what I will be doing? Because mounting at recommended or midsole is -8 from true center.

And to Mex^^^ I have read your thread. It was one of the best ones I found but why didn't you like it at +2 from the midsole? (or -6 from true center).

Im just getting confused because it seems like no one can meet in the middle, everybody mounts either at at the recommended (-8 true center), or at like -2 or -3 from true center.

Oct 27 2009 5:04PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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^ well i just went with recommended because i felt the +2 point (although still sick) felt reeeally similar to my previous skis (line chronic wides), and i just wanted something that could handle the deep stuff better. having the ski mounted a lil'bit further back really made the difference, at least for me it felt that way, and i didn't feel i sacraficed much for the small amount of park riding i do. again, it's just preference. go with rec if you want something similar to a 70/30 allmt/park mounting point or +2 if you want more of a 60/40 point.
Oct 27 2009 6:14PM
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TastyCorn
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Is there anybody else who has blends mounted around +2, or +3 of the recommended and can give me there opinion? Or anyone else that has any input?
Oct 28 2009 1:01AM
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Hooper
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this should help you understand the "midsole" a little better

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Oct 28 2009 2:36AM
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Hooper
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ahhh fuck post fail sorry
here we go:

Courtesy of Newschoolers.com

Oct 28 2009 2:37AM
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yeahitsdave
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I have mine at -2 cm from center. I love the way they ski there, pretty fantastic in everything, and normally I'm not a fan of mounting a all mountain ski that close to center. On the ice coast, I'm skiing them about 70% park, but when I took them to Breck for a week, and Utah for a week, they took maybe three laps through the park. 18 inches without problem, and I loved them in the tight trees at Jay. All in all, a pretty killer ski, if you want a little more tail, split the difference and go +/-4, you can always remount them if need be, but I'm sure you'll like them there.
Oct 28 2009 10:02AM
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steve-o
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I just mounted my 183s at +6cm which I guess is also 2cm back. This thread makes me feel splendid about my decision, Ill let you dudes know how it goes all too soon.
Oct 28 2009 1:27PM
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TastyCorn
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K sorry for bumping this so many times but I just want one more bit of feedback.

I think for my purposes of 25% park, and 75% pow/allmountiain, I should mount at +2 or +3 of the recommended. I'm not that good in the park anyways. If mounting at center, or near center is best for park ( I realize these skis are unsymmetrical and swing weight would be an issue etc. for mounting at center) and mounting at recommended is best for pow/allmountain, then mounting at +4/-4 would be meeting in the middle of both worlds. So for what I want a +2, +3 sounds like it makes sense. I think.

Let me know If this is a good plan, or if you have your blends mounted here. I'd like to hear your experiences. Thanks again, this should be last bump. +k for helpin too.
Nov 1 2009 6:19PM
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TastyCorn
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Bump
Nov 1 2009 11:04PM
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TastyCorn
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Bump
Nov 2 2009 10:32PM
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GNARBARSTAR
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your a bigger dude on smallish skis. put them on the  line or your tips are gonna be diving like mad in pow, if any of these kids say there blends at -2 ski good in pow, they have horrible form and ski in the back seat. i recomend go on the line its gonna be a way better ski for you. and when you get better or have more interest in the park get a specific park ski and center them, then your just building a quiver.
Nov 2 2009 10:50PM
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TastyCorn
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I would do this but I don't have that kinda ceesh right now for both pairs, and I dont want to short change my self in the park all season with a mount at the line. If I do that then I'd prob move my mount from this year to the line then buy a pair of park skis.

BUT FOR NOW, I need to know if +3 or +2 from recommended will be what I want. Or if you have yours there let me know.
Nov 3 2009 4:01PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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^ go for it! +2 isn't that much of a difference and from what i've read you'll probably feel alot more confident on the +2 mount... in my experience it's still a super sick mounting point and you won't feel like you're sacrificing nor park nor pow.
Nov 4 2009 6:43PM
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MarkieR
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+2 from suggested would be a safe spot to mount them given your skiing style. i'd say go for it.
Nov 9 2009 5:06PM
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TallTom
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Hey, I've got the same problem, not sure where to mount them.

I have the 183's - i'm 6ft 5!! (yes i know) and only 170lbs. They're my 1 ski quiver that i'll be using for absolutely everything. The recommended seems quite far back, especially for doing things in the park - but as i'm such a giant would mounting them say +3/+4 of recommended screw me in the pow?

Thanks for the help :D
Nov 26 2009 10:20AM
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TallTom
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A token bump before I go ahead and get them done...
Nov 27 2009 3:28AM
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