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al Qaida did it again

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Sgt.Hessu
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al qaida confirmed that they masterminded the yesterdays trainbombings in madrid.. it was considered as the worst terrorist attack in europes history..

anyways i searched the topics o this site and found nothing, so did ya guys even know about it, or did they broadcast it in american tv channels??
hmmm...
Mar 12 2004 11:49AM
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jizack
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it was on the news a couple days ago






“This sort of behavior is left to the psychotic, dogmatic, fundamentalist believers you see on your TV everyday letting off bombs and killing people in the name of God. Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing...'Maynard James Keenan
Mar 12 2004 11:50AM
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Sgt.Hessu
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but not much about it?? just wondering as world trade center bombings were on cnn for weeks, and this doesnt get much newstime in there..
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Mar 12 2004 11:53AM
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Infantz16
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no its around, nytimes had a few stories, and it was on cnn too. it was confirmed by al queda though? man, i'm sooo pissed, i was supposed to go to spain this summer with a school trip and we were going to travel by train, but i think its going to be cancelled now. did they give reason for it? where did you hear that?


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Mar 12 2004 11:58AM
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Sgt.Hessu
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on news, and some major newspaper covers
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Mar 12 2004 12:02PM
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Sgt.Hessu
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ohh they said it was done to revenge that spain took part in the war in iraq
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Mar 12 2004 12:04PM
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Sgt.Hessu
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this is the stuff i have been relating(and sorry it wasnt europes worst bombing, but itll be in top5)

Spanish media and authorities described the attacks as “our own September 11�, but were divided as to who was to blame. Some newspapers stressed the possibility the blasts could have been retaliation by Islamic extremists for Spain’s involvement in the US-led coalition in Iraq.

The news of the possible Al-Qaeda involvement sent sharemarkets and the US dollar plummeting, and made oil prices spike.

Foreign Minister Ana Palacio told French radio Europe 1 “strong clues� suggested ETA involvement, she added Spain could not completely rule out the possiblity that Islamic radicals were behind the attack.

That theory was strengthened by a report from London-based Arabic newspaper al-Quds al-Arabi that it had received a claim of responsibility from Al-Qaeda.

A stolen van was discovered Thursday containing seven detonators and a tape with Koranic verses in Arabic 35 kilometres (20 miles) from Madrid.

taken from middle east times on 12th march 2004
the full story on: www.metimes.com/2K4/issue2004-11/methaus.htm




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Mar 12 2004 12:43PM
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SUpilot
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they THINK al queda took responsibility. they got a letter/email, but thats it. its hard to give absolute credit though because it might be fabricated.
Mar 12 2004 1:24PM
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tinkerbell
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I'm going there in a few weeks on a school trip...I hope it doesn't get cancelled, my teacher's paranoid now.


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Mar 12 2004 1:52PM
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powder99
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Al-Qaeda claims everything that happens was done by them, they even claimed that the blackout we had last year was caused by them. THey look for any excuse for a reaction, i don't think there is enough proof that they did it yet, if they didn't do it they still got a reaction to get the US's fears up, i say we call NEON PINK alert, everyone be scared don't trust anyone lets listen and believe everything the media says.
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Mar 12 2004 3:24PM
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skitheslopes
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ya that why we go to war with them cause they try to kill us!and other people.


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Mar 12 2004 4:36PM
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twix_182
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I don't know if it could actually be al quida. It seems that every bombing anywhere that happens is al quidas doing. it's just pretty much helping with bush's reelection. i don't know
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Mar 12 2004 4:58PM
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homestead
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Its too bad to hear about the bombings. 2000 dead and 2000 injured. That was all we talked about in Spanish class today






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Mar 12 2004 5:08PM
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mattwalker
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Nope... its 200 dead. 1000 injured. my history class talked about this today, there are 3 groups it might of been...

the ETA was the most likley because its in Spain, where they roll, but this wasnt like the usual ETA attacks... it wasnt called in before hand, and it was 200 dead, their biggest one before was 15 dead.

The second group is some random islamic group that i dont remember, but they dont think its them, because they took responisbility for the blackout (not alqueda) and another bombing that was obviously not them, so they think they just take blame for everything.

THe last is alqueda. THey have the most believeable note... with the koran scripts and stuff, and i think it was them... they said they were just getting attention and warming up for something bigger called a black death. so i am scared.


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Mar 12 2004 5:42PM
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Utahpowderskier
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sons of bitches. All of them.
Mar 12 2004 5:58PM
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Sinister
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guys,as a guy who is from spain i'm telling you its 199 dead and 1430 injured.and today 11 million Spaniards went out on the streets to ptotest.And basically,CNN SUCKS BALLS.
What happened in Madrid was waaay more terrible than what they showed in the news.
Fuck Al qaeda
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Mar 12 2004 6:12PM
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rightcoastskier
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yea this chick i kno almost went on that train but went on an earlier one... crazy
Mar 12 2004 6:16PM
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GeneralButtNaked
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im calling the next attack on july 11, 2007
Mar 12 2004 6:18PM
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twix_182
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y do u call it that day?
Land Shark EEEEE EEEEE EEEE
Mar 12 2004 6:21PM
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Utahpowderskier
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I agree with the CNN thing. They are horrible.
Mar 12 2004 6:21PM
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SUpilot
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july 11 2007? such horseshit. get your dick out of nostradamus's ass. if something happens it will be before that or else al queda will lose more credibility than they alreay have.
Mar 12 2004 8:27PM
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Sgt.Hessu
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yeah i know ist not sure yet, and i dont believe media, from everything i read(bout 20newspapers per day) i collected the info for my opinion that it was al qaida.. and thats scary that it was just warm up, for something bigger
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Mar 13 2004 1:45AM
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Utahpowderskier
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^you read 20 newspapers per day? How the hell do you do that?
Mar 13 2004 2:42AM
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etom
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he probably rads that shit online.
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Mar 13 2004 2:53AM
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Sgt.Hessu
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most of them online...my folks are newsfreaks so we get bout 3papers to home everyday, and if theres anything interesting, ill read it
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Mar 13 2004 4:37AM
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SUpilot
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so your saying you know al queda is at fault because you read 20 newspapers? wow, you should make a call and help out he CIA.
Mar 13 2004 7:33AM
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Sgt.Hessu
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no.. im not telling they have to be behind it.. just that its my opinion that al qaida is the suspect, i know i can be wrong

anyways this is from the observer:

Giles Tremlett in Madrid
Sunday March 14, 2004
The Observer

The Madrid bombings which killed 200 people were dramatically claimed by the Islamic militant group al Qaeda early on Sunday morning.
The Interior Minister Angel Acebes said police had recovered a videotape. 'It's a claim made by a man in Arabic with a Moroccan accent,' he said. 'He makes the declaration in the name of someone who says he is the military spokesman of al- Qaeda in Europe.'

The man on the tape says: 'We declare our responsibility for what happened in Madrid exactly two-and-a-half years after the attacks on New York and Washington. This is an answer to the crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq. If your injustices do not stop there will be more if god wills it.'


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Mar 14 2004 1:28AM
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Maximumsushi
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I read 4 or 5 newsources everyday. Avoid American newsources, they are terrible. FoxNews is probably the worst, followed by CNN. That's just my opinion.

It is far too soon to say for sure that Al-Qaeda is responsible for the attack. ETA is still a suspect. Also, don't rule out the idea that the attack was a collaboration between ETA and Al-Qaeda.
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Mar 14 2004 10:55AM
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Sinister
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I highly doubt ETA would commit such an atrocity.
But yeah,we can't just say who did it yet.But wait til i catch those bastards..their moms won't recognise them!
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Mar 14 2004 12:08PM
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Sgt.Hessu
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today i got an sms from news service that said eta is ruled out, they dont have enough recources or guts to do this big bombings.. but yeah it might be eta, al qaida, or some other islamic terrorist group.. but most of the evidence points to al qaida
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Mar 14 2004 2:00PM
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Maximumsushi
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Its too early to rule out any group. There will be a full investigation.

For all we know, it could have been the spanish socialist party's plot to gain a higher voter turnout to win the election. 30% of votes are counted and they are ahead.

Right now, Al Qaeda has the strongest evidence against them.
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DiNoMyTe!
Mar 14 2004 3:30PM
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Sinister
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hahahaha
No way maximumsushi.It's impossible.I'm telling you it's impossible.
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Mar 14 2004 3:44PM
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Maximumsushi
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It's not impossible, I'm definatly not saying that's what happened. I'm just saying its way too soon for anyone to be making assumptions, especially when it seems most of you don't even read/watch the news.
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Mar 14 2004 3:46PM
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Maximumsushi
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I'm just saying how absurd it is to read too far into these conspiracy theories. Let the investigation continue.
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DiNoMyTe!
Mar 14 2004 3:48PM
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Sinister
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i do read the news,and i read them in Spanish!
But basically,you are right.But the PSOE(socialists)have won,and my belief is that they wouldn't have balls to do this.
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Mar 14 2004 3:50PM
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Maximumsushi
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I really don't know in depth information about the members of the Socialist party to make any calls on how ''ballsy'' they are. It only takes one radical member (which left-wing parties tend to have a few of) to act outside of the wishes of the party. It could also just be a business person who would benefit from a Socialist party being elected.

Although I enjoy reading and thinking about conspiracy theories, I don't believe them.
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Mar 14 2004 3:55PM
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popopopop
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eta were building up resources to do big bombings before the attack says some intelligence people, but then they generally claim resposibility

Mar 14 2004 4:28PM
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Sinister
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you are right,switchbio9.But they weren't trying to kill 200 people.They basically couldn't do that.I know them!They are too coward to do that.
Again:either it's Al Qaeda,or some moroccan bitches.
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Mar 14 2004 4:30PM
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Maximumsushi
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What do you mean, you know them?

Unless you were actually part of an ETA cell, I think it's pretty hard to make an assumptions like that.
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Mar 14 2004 5:48PM
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Sinister
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when i meant i know them was because i live fairly close to the region were supposedly all their movement began(the basque country),i've been seing their way of acting ever since i was born,know their ideology,and man,it's not like if im talking about something like alqaeda,because those people from Eta are from where i am,and i kind of know what they want and how they get it.
I don't know man.It wasn't them for sure.We all know it wasn't them.They woud have said it was them,among other things.
Plus the evidences are pointing at Morocco right now.Sub-divisions of al qaeda.
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Mar 14 2004 5:58PM
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SKItheBURG
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i dont get ridetweaks prediction. what the hell does that mean.
Mar 14 2004 6:08PM
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Maximumsushi
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Those are very good points. Its very interesting to get the opinion of someone who has immediate exposure. It's something you can't always read in the news.

I'm aware of the Morrocan evidence. Currently they believe it's either a Morrocan cell of Al-Qaeda or some morrocans with affliation with Al-Qaeda.

Oh, and the Socialist party now for sure has won the election. Something that was not predicted to have happened previous to the attack. The attacked caused increased voter turnout (then what was expected) and this increased turnout helped the Socialist party.
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DiNoMyTe!
Mar 14 2004 6:34PM
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SUpilot
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its sad. they are basically telling the terrorists that they actually can be a factor.
Mar 14 2004 6:37PM
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Sinister
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i guess it was payback time for Jose Maria Aznar.After leading our nation to the Iraq War with the disaproval of 90% of the population it's understandable that they didn't win this time.
My point is that the terrorist attacks were not the main cause of the Socailist party's victory.
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Mar 14 2004 6:42PM
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SUpilot
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thats irrelevant. you dont stand down after something like that. iraq or no iraq, you must realize that 200 of your people were massacred. you dont stand for shit like that, regardless of other political agendas. they just made terrorists realize that they actually can make a dent. fucking spain. we lost 3000 people and we didnt stand down. we fucked shit up and killed terrorists and we will continue to do so even if the rest of spain type countries pussy out.
Mar 14 2004 6:50PM
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Sinister
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what the fuck?Pussy out?Are you stupid?
Of course we won't stand down.Our new president already said that its first objective is to fight terrorism(of course).And don't fucking give me shit for your 3000 dead.It doesn't matter how many died.And stupid moron,you guys are like 3 hundred million and we are 40.Just do me a favor and fuck off.I was just saying why Aznar's party,lead by Rajoy,got kicked in the ass
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Mar 14 2004 6:56PM
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[crichton]
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why would the attack be based in madrid? what role did spain play to be on the recieving end of a terrorist attack from al qaeda?



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Mar 14 2004 6:58PM
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Sinister
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To support America is enough for them to make it a reason.
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Mar 14 2004 6:58PM
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Utahpowderskier
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The terrorists didnt kick your leader in the ass, they kicked the whole country in the ass. Its time to show them a little bit of an ass kicking. Round #2
Mar 14 2004 7:00PM
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Sinister
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i never said Aznar's party got kicked in the ass by the terrorists, buddy.They got their ass kicked by the people.If you read it carefully,you will find that i am right.
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Mar 14 2004 7:02PM
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SUpilot
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sinister, that wasnt an attack on you. hug time please.
Mar 14 2004 7:06PM
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