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Another Stupid Hellbents + Jesters/Griffons Question

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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
Sorry for all the seemingly useless bumps/threads today, I'm trying to make too many decisions at once.

Anyway, I'm getting 179cm Hellbents. I'm trying to decide between Jesters and Griffons for bindings. I'm 5'9"-5'10", weigh between 145-150 lbs. and my BSL is 315mm. Definitely a Type III skier. I'm obviously going to be skiing powder, but I'll also be messing around on- and off-piste. I'll be mouting at +5.

I guess I'm just kind of looking for some input... by either owners of the gear in question or qualified shop techs only please. I don't want to hear recommendations regarding anything else -- I'm definitely getting a Royal Family binding. And it could come down to being simply an issue of cost. But I want some recommendations from people who know what they're talking about.
Oct 9 2009 9:10PM
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G.R.E.G.
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you way between 145-150 there is no reason your din should be higher than 10... i weight 210 and ride at a din of 12 and thats higher than most people would ride at... save yourself some money and your knees and get the griffons
Oct 9 2009 9:12PM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the reply.
Oct 9 2009 9:30PM
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Silence
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Griffons man, with your size there isn't a huge need for the extra $ on Jesters.
Oct 9 2009 9:46PM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
That's my plan... thanks for the help posters.
Oct 9 2009 9:54PM
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selkirks
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Oct 9 2009 9:58PM
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headlight
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Try http://www.marker.net/en/products/The-Griffon-Schizo-12 the Griffon Schizo. I go last yrs Griffons I am 180 lbs and they worked out good. At least with th schizo u can move them up or down 3cm either way to tweak you style...

Did u mean u will mount  - 5 cm (back from center line 5 cm ? (powder / clssic mount)

Oct 9 2009 10:28PM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
I'm mounting at +5, which is the same as -2 from Core Center. And I'm pretty much made my decision, as referenced above.
Oct 9 2009 10:36PM
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iFail
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don't mount -5 unless the vast majority of your time is spent charging(which is a bit wierd for using bents..).  Mount +7ish(core center) to +8, and they will still be fine on anything and more stable(because of the shorter running surface, you are closer to the center of it).  I rode bents at about +5 and about +7 and the +7 was much more enjoyable anywhere.

Oh, and get Tyrolias(Peaks or Mojos), or good Salomons(S914s/S912s/S916s), or FKS, not shit Griffons/jesters.  They don't control bents well and suck. =)

Oct 9 2009 10:42PM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
See above. I'm mounting at +5, the same as -2 from Core Center.
Oct 9 2009 10:43PM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
^And I've already said I'm not listening to suggestions for other bindings. It's definitely going to be one of those (at this point Griffons). And K2 recommends a Royal Family binding on the Hellbent.
Oct 9 2009 10:46PM
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bootleg_BEN
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Is +5 same as -2? I dont think they are. I suggest telling them to mount it At -2 from TRUE center and stress telling them that you want it -2 from true center. Shops like to mount them wrong sometimes.
Oct 9 2009 11:21PM
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yeahitsdave
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hes going -2 from core center, not true. and besides, its much easier to measure +5 than measuring out true center and then measuring back. i know which way i prefer doing it..
Oct 9 2009 11:39PM
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bootleg_BEN
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Well the difference between core and true is tiny on hellbents so 2 back from core works.
Oct 9 2009 11:42PM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
According to a related post on TGR, it goes like this:

+0 is Traditional
+3 is the K2 "Recommended" Configuration
+7 is Core Center
+9.5 is True Center
Oct 10 2009 12:25AM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
...bump for more recommendations regarding mounting or binding decisions?
Oct 10 2009 1:14AM
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bootleg_BEN
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i measured out my 189 hellbent and true center was only like 1/4 inch or less from core center.

no way its 2.5cm apart
Oct 10 2009 1:18AM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
Don't shoot the messenger; I'm just relaying what I've found from my research.
Oct 10 2009 1:19AM
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Funnel
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Definitely wrong on true center. I know you were just posting what you had found, but that is definitely wrong. Good choice on the royal family bindings, I don't really know what the fuck iFail was talking about. I have Griffons on my Hellbents and I am 5'6"-5'7" and weigh 125. Definitely go with Griffons. Enjoy the skis man, I love my Bents.
Oct 10 2009 1:32AM
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bootleg_BEN
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i wasnt shooting you. Just correcting the statement. No hate meant.

Ya i dont understand the hate on the royal family i love mine, Such an awesome binding.
Oct 10 2009 2:20AM
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murs
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get some jesters there a lot more stable

but i love the ghyphons but im small
Oct 10 2009 3:41AM
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Lemuel
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I got Griffons for my Lizzies and I am a tiny bit taller and a tiny bit more in weight but my BSL is 326.  They set my din at 8 so I'm guessing yours will be set around the same so you should be good with the griffons.
Oct 10 2009 10:10AM
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selkirks
Posts: 1979 - Karma: 62
Thanks for all the help posters, I'm going with the Griffons.

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Oct 10 2009 5:17PM
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