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Canon Mark 5D Mark ii help

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tgk1294
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I am thinking of getting the 5D for mostly video purposes. I want to get just the body and a seperate fisheye lens for great action filming. Any suggestions of a good lens?
Oct 7 2009 9:55AM
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Galin
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don't get it.

dslr video cameras get awesome depth of field and can look spectacular, but all those videos you see that look amazing are carefully set up and the cameras are often on multithousand dollar rigs and used by people who really know what they're doing. They're great for some applications, however action (presumably skiing) shooting certainly isnt one.

just pick yourself up an hmc150, you're already in the price range.
Oct 7 2009 11:14AM
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ReedSkis~
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^I agree partly, but he probably wants to take stills as well if he is looking at the 5d mkii

you can also achieve pretty good DOF buy buying/making a 35mm adapter and using a dslr lens on a camcorder
Oct 7 2009 11:29AM
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Galin
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I dont think i really trust making one, and buying one will set you back around 2 grand, and that's only with probably one lens, maybe two. I haven't used an adapter yet, but its the next big thing on my shopping list. I've heard they overall a bitch to shoot with though, definitely not something you would typically use for skiing.

I doubt he really requires the shallow DOF, no offense, so i don't think he really requires a 5d mark ii, or a 35mm adapter otherwise.

Maybe he does though.

What exactly are  you going to be shooting?
Oct 7 2009 11:36AM
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tgk1294
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yes i am looking to shoot stills as well as video....i am just am amateur but have the $$$ for a 5D mark ii so i dont see why not to get it because i have seen some awesome footage shot with it....
Oct 7 2009 3:24PM
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Galin
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i know there's awesome footage out there, but it really depends on what you're shooting. So what will you be shooting? I hear it doesn't handle fast pans/movement well, so if you're planning on throwing a wide angle on it and trying to do follow cams i don't think this is the camera for you.

There's awesome footage shot with just about every camera, you just have to know how to use it, and use it for the correct applications.

I'm sorry if i'm coming off rude, i just don't want you to buy this and realize it doesnt really work for what you wanted to use it for. Don't be fooled by all the beautiful videos out there, it may not be the right camera for you.

Oct 7 2009 3:37PM
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Joshua.
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ok, i was you about a year ago. i had the money for a really nice camera, but was a noob. i decided not to get it and now use a 1500 dollar handycam and get GREAT shot's with it.... don't be dumb
Oct 7 2009 3:43PM
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Blandct
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How well are your Video skills
Ever use manual setting?
Good at auto focus?

How good are you with SLRs
Have experience working with SLR?
Do you know how to properly expose photos in manual?

Oct 7 2009 3:58PM
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tgk1294
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i am looking to use the video function mostly for short ski clips...i have a sony handycam sr7 right now...it works for me but the 5d just looks like the videos are better...but realizing that these photographers are most likely using ridiculous set ups along with the camera is making me think twice about getting it
Oct 7 2009 4:54PM
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*Fujative*
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This.

Look at getting the Canon 7D if you want to do a lot of video. It can handle 24p and 60i. If you arent that great with DSLR's it will be a learning curve for sure. However the end result is well worth it.
Oct 7 2009 5:08PM
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tgk1294
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k thanks guys
Oct 7 2009 5:35PM
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Keyjibbs
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Ya look at the 7D no need to jump right into the 5dmark2. And for those saying it doesn't film well or has shakey filming look at his clip. You just need a nice rig and knowledge.
http://a20.video2.blip.tv/2110000955860/RE1000-BradenShootsSkateboardingWithA5DMkii903.mov
Oct 7 2009 5:41PM
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Blandct
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yea that is a great example of how a nice rail system or handle system can greatly improve your footage. Another thing I would consider getting Is a follow focus just to help you focus things a bit easier.
Oct 7 2009 6:02PM
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*Fujative*
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what is the rail system handle thing called?! I cant find it anywhere!!
Oct 7 2009 6:46PM
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Keyjibbs
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Not sure exactly what is it but it seems close to this
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.588/.f?sc=2&category=2700
with some 15mm rods. I'm sure someone could make a much cheaper alternative though.
Oct 7 2009 7:16PM
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Keyjibbs
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also with this baseplate
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.821/.f?sc=2&category=2700
Oct 7 2009 7:20PM
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Blandct
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there are a few that I am familiar with This company offers all sorts of accessories and shit

and also some more here

not sure the particular one that the skate edit was filmed with it might even be homemade.
Oct 7 2009 10:32PM
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no_steeze
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get the 7d instead, it'll cost you 1k less and is much better for more amateur geared photo/video, the 5dmk2 is a serious pro camera that's difficult to use for video as well as stills if you don't have a very solid SLR background
Oct 7 2009 10:37PM
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connoroh
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What everyone said.

the 7D is fully weatherproofed too.
Oct 7 2009 11:12PM
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Dr.NS
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redrock micro's and most red components in general are over priced, you can get way cheaper rail systems

althought if he just wants to play around and film  some skiing or some random stuff, a good tripod will make do
Oct 7 2009 11:20PM
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Blandct
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Yea I just posted those two because they are the only ones I know of at this point. I'm sure with time more people will start to make stuff for them because using the 5d and the 7d for video is getting more and more popular.
Oct 8 2009 12:05PM
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*Fujative*
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I found out about redrock but nice find on indifocus. I want to make one but I'm not sure how to design the focus ring. It might just be easier to buy one form indi. Thanks!
Oct 8 2009 1:33PM
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Blandct
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yea still doing some research for these things I dont think there is that many manufactures at this point because high end video is pretty new for the SLR world. I have a D90 and I am currently trying to design my own handle system for video

Im thinking about using steel about 2x8 inches and drilling a hole in the center for the tripod mount then framing a rectangle by welding steel at a right angles or something and some how creating a handle from the top... still a rough idea and i dont know much about welding so i'm not real sure what i can do...
Oct 8 2009 2:11PM
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