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American Police Force in Hardin Montana.......Martial Law?

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q12
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Basically American Police Force (a private company) impersonated police calling themselves Hardin Police (a town that doesn't have a police station) in Montana

APF is in charge of a prison built in 2007 worth $27 million, but never was built to Montana code. (if you sink that much money into a facility you'd think that the plan were to code before it was built. The main reason is the square footage to prisoner ratio)

Founder of the APF is Micheal Hilton. Hilton has an extensive criminal record including 14 felonies (10 counts of theft) various criminal, civil and bankruptcy cases, and has served 2 years in California.

APF's own website claims the US military is their biggest client. And their spokeswoman admitted they have a parent company (DPS / Blackwater) and the founder said APF will patrol the streets of Hardin.

Who the hell determined APF qualified for these duties? Buy off the right people to give shady companies like this deals.....

Fake / Privatized police force in America? WTF is going on in our country.


Privatized police operating from a base/prison on a reservation....a territory..... like Guantanamo Bay....which gives them the POTENTIAL to do some shaaady shit to American Citizens

Step toward martial laws wont be huge, they're small. Fight them early.


I would give you the "kooks" and "conspiracy theorists" websites who broke the story first (Sunday) but here are some more websites that you'll believe more.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/29/crimesider/entry5351491.shtml

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/10/a-secretive-outfit-called-the-american-police-force-is-taking-over-the-never-used-prison-in-hardin-mt-that-was-briefly-con.html

http://www.billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_023e1c90-ae1b-11de-8891-001cc4c03286.html

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_02f22c2e-ae4a-11de-8892-001cc4c002e0.html

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MONTANA_JAIL?SITE=OKPON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/central/view/20091001calif_jail_entrepreneur_has_checkered_past/srvc=home&position=recent


Oct 1 2009 3:02PM
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Mr.Panda
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It is what the military issues when they need to run the streets for themselves.  Essentially what the Americans did as they moved farther and farther into Germany.  Set curfews and shat like that.
Oct 2 2009 4:41PM
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q12
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no no
this IS a news event regardless of who covers it. How can you possibly say its not? Thats laughable.

I am not claiming to be smarter than anyone, but i am not afraid to place importance on issues that dont come to my attention through the evening news and i wish more people acted the same way

obviously private police have been discussed a lot, but there has never been an attempt at it like this.
Oct 2 2009 4:42PM
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PhilboydStudge
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something is DEFINITELY going to happen. The office of the Governor is really questioning this
Oct 2 2009 4:48PM
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Mr.Panda
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You called me dumb asshat.  That is claiming to be smarter than someone.
Oct 2 2009 4:54PM
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q12
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i asked if you were too dumb to have an opinion.

but try to quote me calling you a dumbass.

I called that one kid a jackass back but im pretty sure thats it
Oct 2 2009 4:58PM
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*LiNeLover*
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Yeah he is definitely right. I Live in Montana. & this IS DEFINITELY an event. It has been all over in our local news papers.

http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/hardin_jail_entrepreneur_has_checkered_past/13310/

http://www.billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_4cd7d5c0-b50f-11de-9dbe-001cc4c002e0.html
^ those don't include our front page today.. cant find it...
Oct 11 2009 1:40AM
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NomenClature
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A $27 million jail is not a major facility at all.

There are many private prisons in America, we incarcerate far too many people to have them all run by inefficient governments.

You have no idea what martial laws entails, or what it would take to enact it (even a regional scale.)

Private police forces are quite common in other countries which cannot manage localized disorder effectively.  The reason they are attractive is because they are cost effective. (general rule: 2/3 of the budget for a given bureaucracy, is spent on running the bureaucracy, i.e. not delivering services.)

APF is NOT affiliated with Xe/Blackwater, Dyncorp or any other well known defense contractor.  Whoever reported this failed to reort on the exectutives of all these companies publically saying as much.

And for someone who bashes fox news/glenn beck, i think its prety funny that your basically coming to the same, absurd conclusion they are (no one else is though).

The only story here: A small local government in montana failed to make any effort at performing ANY due dilligence.  Thats is: the use of private law enforcement is NOT the story, its that they accidentally hired a tainted firm. This is about the stupidity of elected officials, end of story. 

theres a reason they call people who come to concusions like this conspiracy theorists, its because everything you say is outlandish, and utter horseshit.
Oct 11 2009 1:38PM
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stale-vomit
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Hahaha most of the people in this thread who arent from montana are hugely over reacting. Hardin doesnt have a police station because its a tiny ass town just like the majority of towns in Montana. Their law enforcement is the county sheriff.
Oct 11 2009 1:48PM
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