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Line's skis are TINY!

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dangerdad
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Line, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

Max Size of:
176 Chronics
178 Masterminds
177 Afterbang
178 Invader
...and they don't even measure that long.

Where are your 181s? I was so stoked to buy some Chrons this year, but for a bigger guy there is no way I can go under 180.

Why no big sizes????
Sep 29 2009 9:45PM
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Cudder.
Posts: 2248 - Karma: 307
yeah dude its not going to matter at all
Sep 29 2009 9:48PM
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*simba*
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the cryptonites are 178
Sep 29 2009 9:50PM
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mer-man
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lol sucks for you dog but there is definetly a reason and its probly something to do with the ski not performing well after a certain length
Sep 29 2009 9:57PM
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BWalmer
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Blends are the biggest Park/All mountain ski they have at 183, it's kinda sad that they are so short.
Sep 29 2009 10:11PM
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Logey.
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get the elizabeths? its wider but you can go shorter but if your not into wide skis than its not for you
Sep 29 2009 10:14PM
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psychkub
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unfortunately, that's why I don't buy LINE anymore.
Sep 29 2009 10:16PM
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Squid.
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My Afterbangs measure to 177.
Sep 29 2009 11:07PM
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TheUngroomed
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yay for being short!!!
Sep 29 2009 11:21PM
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Balto
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buy some on3p blue steeles in 181
Sep 29 2009 11:56PM
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caylorswift
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Sep 30 2009 12:02AM
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griffin.paisley
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this
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Sep 30 2009 12:02AM
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dangerdad
Posts: 2228 - Karma: 317
sorry I work at a shop, gotta get skis the shop carries. Prob gonna have to go with some ar6s
Sep 30 2009 12:12AM
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PeterWojnar
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If you're a park skier, shorter skis spin faster and weigh less, but they're not as stable for high speeds and landings. And besides... you aren't THAT tall, short skis are fine. You have to be used to them... I'm 6'0" and I love my 176 Gotamas. Don't need any longer, except in SUPEr deep pow, which we don't get too often, because sierra pow is heavy, and you don't sink very deep. (never chesty, except during the storm)

If you're a big mountain skier, get skis from a brand not known for being soft, unless you get the Motherships. Those things are like fucking 2 by 4's.

If you're a pow skier, get bacons or EP pros.

If you don't fit any of the above stereotypes, you don't belong on NS. No hate.
Sep 30 2009 12:19AM
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traylortrash
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yay! 5 7= win!
Sep 30 2009 1:12AM
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MEGAZORD
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181 chrons are the sames size as the old 177 chrons
Sep 30 2009 1:55AM
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dangerdad
Posts: 2228 - Karma: 317
your actin a fool.

I am 6'2 and 210. I have Moment Night Trains for my powdah/big mountain exploits, but I still need a park ski that can tear it up around the mountain. I had skis that size last year and I hated how short they felt and how i would always wash out on landings.

If you are a good skier that gets into skiing park, you really do want longer skis, especially when I use this ski 70% of the time.

and a 176 for a 6' person is totally reasonable, but not for someone my size who actually knows how to ski.


Sep 30 2009 8:22AM
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MEGAZORD
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Look at the Ace of Spades.  Symmetrical, 2 layers of metal, and decently stiff.  Comes only in 177 and 185
Sep 30 2009 8:36AM
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shintastic48
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Then the other problem is that very little companies make ski sizes in like 166. i need them around there because i'm 170. Faction is the only company that i've seen with 168's.
Sep 30 2009 9:29AM
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smuggs
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you are really worried about 6 centimeters? plus lines measure longer anyway. i have the 195 motherships for a every day ski cuz they are bad to the bone. if i skied park i would have no problem riding a 179
Sep 30 2009 10:35AM
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dangerdad
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But THATS the thing, I would prefer to ski a 185 park ski, but they don't make it. I loke longer skis MUCH more, I feel snowlerbladish on anything under 180.

And line's skis def do not measure long. I take back what I said about them measuring short, they def measure average tops.

I really need a park oriented ski that can still slay woods and the rest of the mountain. Chronic-esque


Sep 30 2009 12:00PM
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zammo
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I agree you need a longer ski. At your size you will lose loads of performace and stablility with anything short and certainly with anything too soft. You need your shop to start stocking a few other brands!

Movement skis tend to come in longer sizes: http://www.movementskis.com/ - good reviews from lots of people

Faction seem to have a good idea of what they're doing as well: http://www.factionskis.com

I'm fine, I'm a short-arse.

Sep 30 2009 12:19PM
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Lemuel
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I remember this issue rising back in the spring when Line released all their skis.  Their reasoning was that there was not a big enough market for ski 180 and over.  I think that there is the same amount of people wanting skis in that length as in other length categories.  I think it is a bad mistake on Line's part.  I love my 181 chronics and would never go a full size shorter for a park ski.  I could get away with 178's but under that is too short.
Sep 30 2009 12:56PM
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prontocuts.com
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Don't ever get a job at a ski shop for the sake of other customers
Sep 30 2009 1:16PM
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dangerdad
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Yea Movement skis are unbelievably sick. Probably the highest quality on the mavket right now, but I have no interest in spending that much on a park ski which im going to destroy anyway.
And it is a big shop, skirack in Burlington.

Prob will get either pipe cleaners, ar6s, suspects, or walls.
Sep 30 2009 2:05PM
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mer-man
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wtf are you talking about if a ski has a certain width, flex ect if you just keep on increasing the length eventually you are gunna run into problems like the skis would just turn into nuddles why would they not just press longer then
Sep 30 2009 6:24PM
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MEGAZORD
Posts: 4531 - Karma: -7
Skis get gradually stiffer in size usually.  He's right, you have no idea what youre talking about. 
Sep 30 2009 6:27PM
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DrZoidberg
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5'4''=Major win then. My 166cm chronics are as tall as I am, they're 07-08s. I could see riding 171s though or something around there, and this years chronics are really awesome too.

I just looked on the site though, a lot of their stuff is short if you were like 6 foot something or taller.
Sep 30 2009 7:03PM
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jason...
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You should really be on bigger skis than 176's. I was 5'3ish for most of last season and skiing on 173's, and I would not have that any other way. I hate the feel of short skis. Some people just don't like short skis, I'm one of them.
Sep 30 2009 7:54PM
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LAME.
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aha beian a midget always pays off!

Sep 30 2009 8:21PM
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pjbauer
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not enough demand for the longer skis
Sep 30 2009 8:39PM
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blindside
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I know...I know...

Moment has some 186 park skis though!

however, I may bight the bullet this season and pick up some afterbangs..my first ski under 180 in about 5 years haha
Sep 30 2009 8:44PM
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PeterWojnar
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If you know how to ski so well, you should be able to handle a park ski just a few centimeters short.

Now, if you'll be using it as your primary ski, and you want it to be super-perfect, just buy another company's ski. Is it that hard? I know you may really want Afterbangs or Anthems, but some things aren't meant to be.

Excuse my lack of extreme supreme knowledge of what a park skier would want, I'm not a park rat, so I was probably a little out of place speaking on what I don't know too well.

Also, I didn't catch you weighed 210 lbs. If that's the case, the few centimeters would make the difference.

It still looks like you have two options, though: Buy short, or don't buy Line. Despite Line being super chill, I doubt they would make you a custom length ski... but it can't hurt to ask them.
Sep 30 2009 10:19PM
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MEGAZORD
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They are made in china by k2, so unless youre willing to plunk down 10k, probably not. 

Youre better off buying from 333, he'll make exactly what you want.
Sep 30 2009 11:17PM
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Legoman
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line should swap to same siziing as volkl 177 and 185,

its not just line though most companys make skis for your average person/midget. Now if your 6ft+ your going to be 185cm+ anyway and with a lot of people liking there skis, especially pow skis, just a little bit longer than they are you have very little options.


Oct 1 2009 8:00AM
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murs
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its fine i love em
Oct 1 2009 8:28AM
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Z_rob
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i thought the invaders were gone?
Oct 1 2009 11:55AM
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Sugarloafer95
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I agree they should make longer as you are one of the guys that should be on that longer length. Lets face it, 180cm's really is not that long. I know the K2 Extreme is coming in 184cm's this year so hopefully Line will also make some of their true freestyle skis closer to that 185cm range like the Volkl Wall is. You can get a Blend in a 183cm but that is pretty stiff underfoot and not sure how much you would like it in the park. It does however ski switch very well.

These are a few that come in longer lengths.

4FRNT STL 183cm - http://www.untracked.com/p2731c51b122-09_4frnt_stl_all_mountain_freestyle_twin_tip_skis.html

Atomic Urban Punx 184cm - http://www.untracked.com/p2107c51b43-08_atomic_urban_punx_twin_tip_skis.html

4FRNT MSP 187cm - http://www.untracked.com/p2732c51b122-09_4frnt_msp_freeride_skis.html

Volkl Bridge 185cm - http://www.untracked.com/p2658c51b53-09_volkl_bridge_twin_tip_freeride_skis.html

Oct 1 2009 2:44PM
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californiagrown
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2nd year blends are still the best all mountain ski ever made, and they were made in a 186.  See if you can get your hands on a lightly used pair.
Oct 1 2009 2:46PM
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Z_rob
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STL and MSP are going to be stiff and light much like the chronic so i suggest those to the thread moderator

the urban punx ive heard are soft so probably along the lines of the afterbangs.

Volkl bridge also fairly stiff
Oct 1 2009 2:49PM
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Sugarloafer95
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Agreed. STL and MSP are stiffer than the Volkl Bridge (More of a moderate flex) and for bigger guys that are aggressive these seem to be pretty popular models. Urban punx is soft, lighter and softer than afterbangs. MSP was a lot of fun all-mountain but I did not enjoy it as much in the park. Bridge was a blast all mountain and in the park. Guys that can't afford 2 pairs of skis this is a great ski for Northeast skiers looking for a narrower one ski quiver. Personally I wouldn't get anything under 110 for skiing the East unless I was still in the park more than 30% of the time. I spend most of my time in the trees now, but still enjoy a few runs in the park when the park is fresh.

Oct 1 2009 2:58PM
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WikiWiki
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im 6 foot even and my anthems are 176 i think- they ski fine
Oct 1 2009 4:00PM
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Chronic_
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word
Oct 1 2009 7:18PM
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garrets
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lol
Oct 1 2009 10:13PM
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